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    Baby Dies From Crushed Head--- Why???

    PLEASE tell me how this can happen!!!! If the baby was buckled properly into her carseat and the mom/aunt/ANY ADULT was watching her, this never would have happened. I am so mad!!!! Imagine the pain this little girl suffered and her panic.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,243584,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidzndogznme
    PLEASE tell me how this can happen!!!! If the baby was buckled properly into her carseat and the mom/aunt/ANY ADULT was watching her, this never would have happened. I am so mad!!!! Imagine the pain this little girl suffered and her panic.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,243584,00.html
    This is so sad. My prayers go out to this family.

    When my sons were 18-months old they could free themselves from a carseat. You do have to watch them every minute at this age, but it is also true that they can slip away in the blink of an eye.
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!

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    My kids could not free themselves at 18 months old. We got the kind of seat that has the "head resty thing" that goes down over their head and then sits in front of their chests. They could not reach over the bar to unbuckle and they couldn't fit their hands in between the bar and their bodies either. I was so strict with my kids (still am) and buckling up that they never even tried to get out and they never pitched a fit about getting into the seat either. My sister's daughter screams and runs and acts like a brat when she has to get buckled in. But you are right. You have to watch toddlers and young kids every single second. This soooo did not have to happen.

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    Maybe this was the first time she freed herself from her seat, and the mom and aunt thought she was still buckled up.Im all for watching kids very closely but you cant sit over them 24 hours , accidents can and do happen.
    I just feel so bad for her family and the sorrow they must be going thru right now.

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    For those of you that are still in the market for baby car seats..here is the latest report card. This is primarily crash purposes, but I would guess that ability to escape would be factored in?


    Here is the complete list of infant seats and their rating from Consumer Reports:

    Not Acceptable:

    • Evenflo Discovery
    • Eddie Bauer Comfort
    Fair or Poor:

    • Chicco Keyfit
    • Peg Perego Primo Viaggio Sip
    • Compass I410
    • Evenflo Embrace
    • Britax Companion
    • Graco Safeseat
    • Safety 1st Designer
    • Combi Center
    Very Good:

    • Baby Trend Flex-Loc Adjustable Back
    • Graco Snugride with EPS

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    That is so sad! I'd like to give the mom & aunt the benefit of the doubt that they thought she was strapped safely in the carseat. If you're right there vacuuming out the car, I wonder how you wouldn't see her getting out of the car. The doors must have been opened for her to slip away. I guess if I was vacuuming the front, I'd have the back doors closed w/ the window down a little ways for air circulation. This is truly a tragic accident for the mom, aunt and the poor child and mother who discovered her. I'm about 1 hr away from Blountstown and drive through it when I visit my parents down south. Now, every time I travel through there, I'll be thinking of that precious little girl and say a prayer for the family.

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    I don't agree

    I guess I am hard-hearted because saying "Oh well, accidents happen" is just not OK with me. I can even understand saying "we can't watch them 24/7" if this was an older child. But this was a baby. It is the parent's *job* to watch them 24/7 at that young of an age. Period. Of course this is not the same as parents who outright murder their children but it is every bit as bad as the parents who leave their child unattended at the park while they run home to check on something. With a child this age, you have to anticipate their every move and never underestimate them. If this mom had been watching her child properly, this would never have happened. She should have figured out that there were cars in the area and chemicals all over, even if she didn't anticipate moving mechanical parts that could crush her child. This person ranks right up there with the parents who leave their kids in a car because they "forgot" about them or the ones who put the carseat on the roof of the car with the baby inside and drive away. It is all in the category of "They Should Have Known". IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidzndogznme
    I guess I am hard-hearted because saying "Oh well, accidents happen" is just not OK with me. I can even understand saying "we can't watch them 24/7" if this was an older child. But this was a baby. It is the parent's *job* to watch them 24/7 at that young of an age. Period. Of course this is not the same as parents who outright murder their children but it is every bit as bad as the parents who leave their child unattended at the park while they run home to check on something. With a child this age, you have to anticipate their every move and never underestimate them. If this mom had been watching her child properly, this would never have happened. She should have figured out that there were cars in the area and chemicals all over, even if she didn't anticipate moving mechanical parts that could crush her child. This person ranks right up there with the parents who leave their kids in a car because they "forgot" about them or the ones who put the carseat on the roof of the car with the baby inside and drive away. It is all in the category of "They Should Have Known". IMO.

    Wow, there's no room for accidents or a parent making an honest mistake anymore. How do you think the mother feels? It was HER child, I doubt you feel any worse than she does. It's one thing if it's outright abuse or neglect but an honest mistake doesn't make someone a criminal deserving of such harsh, unforgivable judgement.

    I'm about to have a baby, could go any day now and it scares the bejeezus out of me at how some people are so judgemental. I know I'm not perfect and if I'm tired I make mistakes or may not be thinking clearly. Maybe I should give my baby up for adoption since I or my dh might make a bad error in judgment, being as we're human beings and all and not robots.

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    I'll agree with 'hard hearted' - because you can't watch them 24/7, not even close to that. First, you need to sleep. Then, you need to once in awhile feed yourself and take care of basics of hygene, and cleaning. And since a sane parent is better than one insane, a touch of time for yourself is good.


    24/7, you do need to do your best to keep them safe - while you sleep, they're in a crib, while you do other activites, you put them somewhere safe like their crib, or with someone trusted. Sounds like, if this kid did escape from a carseat, or merely escaped from the car, the parents did put her somewhere safe, not knowing she would escape this time. But kids will surprise you here and there, with no advance warning that they're about to learn to roll off the couch, jam their fingers, climb the crib, etc. That's nothing like outright neglect like leaving them at the park or some such!


    I'm a new mother too Shopper, and reading here is sometimes pretty scary, the level of condemnation for the lightest human error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Details
    I'll agree with 'hard hearted' - because you can't watch them 24/7, not even close to that. First, you need to sleep. Then, you need to once in awhile feed yourself and take care of basics of hygene, and cleaning. And since a sane parent is better than one insane, a touch of time for yourself is good.


    24/7, you do need to do your best to keep them safe - while you sleep, they're in a crib, while you do other activites, you put them somewhere safe like their crib, or with someone trusted. Sounds like, if this kid did escape from a carseat, or merely escaped from the car, the parents did put her somewhere safe, not knowing she would escape this time. But kids will surprise you here and there, with no advance warning that they're about to learn to roll off the couch, jam their fingers, climb the crib, etc. That's nothing like outright neglect like leaving them at the park or some such!


    I'm a new mother too Shopper, and reading here is sometimes pretty scary, the level of condemnation for the lightest human error.

    Thank you Details. It's scary enough being a parent without being condemned for a tragic mistake. You're right, the child was where she was supposed to be, in her car seat. I'm sure if the mother knew she was able to get out, she would've taken the appropriate action.

    How's it going with your new little one? I'm scared to death, but am excited too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shopper
    Wow, there's no room for accidents or a parent making an honest mistake anymore. How do you think the mother feels? It was HER child, I doubt you feel any worse than she does. It's one thing if it's outright abuse or neglect but an honest mistake doesn't make someone a criminal deserving of such harsh, unforgivable judgement.

    I'm about to have a baby, could go any day now and it scares the bejeezus out of me at how some people are so judgemental. I know I'm not perfect and if I'm tired I make mistakes or may not be thinking clearly. Maybe I should give my baby up for adoption since I or my dh might make a bad error in judgment, being as we're human beings and all and not robots.
    Nope-don't give your baby up for adoption. You're right, parents are human beings. I'm a parent of 3 kids. Anybody who is a parent who says that they have never made a mistake in watching, raising, or supervising their child either isn't being truthful or is a saint, lol.

    Parenting is a difficult job. We ALL make mistakes----unfortunately some mistakes have graver consquences than others, just like this story proves. This was a tragic, horrible mistake that likely happened because the mothers eyes were focused on something else for 30 seconds.

    This is a horrible story and I'm not going to chastise the mother for what happened. It was, by all accounts, a horrible accident. Yes, it was preventable, and the mom will be living with this for the rest of her life. I don't have anger towards her---I have nothing but sympathy for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shopper
    Wow, there's no room for accidents or a parent making an honest mistake anymore. How do you think the mother feels? It was HER child, I doubt you feel any worse than she does. It's one thing if it's outright abuse or neglect but an honest mistake doesn't make someone a criminal deserving of such harsh, unforgivable judgement.

    I'm about to have a baby, could go any day now and it scares the bejeezus out of me at how some people are so judgemental. I know I'm not perfect and if I'm tired I make mistakes or may not be thinking clearly. Maybe I should give my baby up for adoption since I or my dh might make a bad error in judgment, being as we're human beings and all and not robots.
    Good post. I had one kid that never did anything dangerous and another that could have killed himself if he wasn't watched every second. It is impossile to be on guard every second of the day. Thinking a child is safely in their car seat while you vaccuum is not child neglect. This is a horrid accident.

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    I stand firmly in my opinion. I have been a parent for a long time and been in the child-rearing business for longer. Being a parent is a daunting responsibility and with the rewards of watching your child grow and flourish comes a duty to do whatever it takes to keep them safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidzndogznme
    I stand firmly in my opinion. I have been a parent for a long time and been in the child-rearing business for longer. Being a parent is a daunting responsibility and with the rewards of watching your child grow and flourish comes a duty to do whatever it takes to keep them safe.

    Well I can only pray that I am as perfect as you are and that I am granted a crystal ball to foresee and avoid any mistakes I make as a parent. Sarcasm aside, I hope that any mistake I ever might make, it never makes the news for the world to condemn me.

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    Sometimes I wonder how I made it to adulthood without my parents watching me 24/7

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