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  1. #1
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    my 1st post & s.b.t.c

    Hi - been a lurker for a long time and wanted to post this musing I found online regarding "victory!" and s.b.t.c. in a biblical context...
    btw - i believe pdi and she was very "jesus-y"...

    Verses 14-17:
    And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
    Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
    For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
    And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.


    Notice God says, "if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins."

    So are we saved by the cross? If Jesus Christ had done everything he did, including dying for our sins, but God hadn't raised him from the dead, your faith would be vain (empty); you would still be in your sins! (even though patsy killed jb, she is going to be ok, because she belives in jesus)
    Verses 52-53:
    In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.



    The "corruptible" is that believer who has corrupted or can corrupt - in other words, the dead. The "mortal" is that believer who will still be alive when Christ returns.

    Notice that when we're raised or changed, we'll be incorruptible and immortal. We'll literally have new bodies that will be like the body Jesus Christ has now (Philippians 3:20-21; 1 John 3:2)!

    Verse 54:
    So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.



    Notice God's Word says "then". Death is not swallowed up in victory yet. But at the gathering together when we get our new bodies, it will be!

    Verses 55-57:
    O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
    The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
    But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.



    And what a victory that will be!


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    Saved By The Cross is my first choice of what Patsy meant by SBTC.
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    My opinion and nothing but my opinion.

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    http://www.weather.com/news/tornado-torcon-index

    FEMA's link for Emergency Supplies list below or what you need to survive for three days in case help is not immediately available to you.
    http://www.ready.gov/document/family-supply-list

    You can also purchase a weather radio which will inform you of severe weather even if your electricity goes out. Runs on batteries of course.

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    Hi, jwolf, glad you decided to join us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishMist
    Hi, jwolf, glad you decided to join us!
    I second that!!!
    "This time we get it right."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Show Me
    Saved By The Cross is my first choice of what Patsy meant by SBTC.
    Mine too.

    She couldn't help herself.

    Welcome Wolfe, great first post.

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    I fourth!

    And I agree!
    I'm as mad as HELL and I'm NOT gonna take it anymore!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave
    I fourth!

    And I agree!
    Make that five...I agree as well.

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    Did ANYONE read my post on the "Idle Thoughts" thread? Patsy is speaking about the color purple and how it relates to Lent. She talks to a friend about the color purple...

    SBTC means....

    Shed
    Blood
    Through
    Christ
    ...We have said to ourselves, look, there is never going to be a victory in this, there is no victory...John Ramsey: 6/24/98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toltec
    Did ANYONE read my post on the "Idle Thoughts" thread? Patsy is speaking about the color purple and how it relates to Lent. She talks to a friend about the color purple...

    SBTC means....

    Shed
    Blood
    Through
    Christ
    I noticed she used the phrase "the shed blood of Christ" in her "JonBenet was a sacrifice chosen by God with my use of purple" passage, and thought that was interesting. It fits in so perfectly with Patsy's fevered dependence on her version of Christianity.

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    [QUOTE=jwolfe]Hi - been a lurker for a long time and wanted to post this musing I found online regarding "victory!" and s.b.t.c. in a biblical context...
    btw - i believe pdi and she was very "jesus-y"...

    Verses 14-17:
    And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
    Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
    For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
    And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.


    Notice God says, "if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins."

    So are we saved by the cross? If Jesus Christ had done everything he did, including dying for our sins, but God hadn't raised him from the dead, your faith would be vain (empty); you would still be in your sins! (even though patsy killed jb, she is going to be ok, because she belives in jesus)
    Verses 52-53:

    Yes, according to Patsy, Jesus is a vane one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster
    I think John made a deal with Satan that led to his success with Access Graphics and sacrificing JB was required by Satan as payment for this deal.
    I'd have to say your barking up the wrong tree on that one. But....well....Didn't John in interview on LKL say we have come to realize there would be no victory. Drat I am on a new computer....my links are on the old one. Let me see if I can find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster
    I think John made a deal with Satan that led to his success with Access Graphics and sacrificing JB was required by Satan as payment for this deal.
    Being that it was Christís Birthday, this would be the ultimate homage to Satan.
    Sacrificing virgins and their virginity is an age old practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster
    Being that it was Christís Birthday, this would be the ultimate homage to Satan.
    Sacrificing virgins and their virginity is an age old practice.
    Chilling. But who would this satanist be in your opinion, John you said but with or without Patsy. What makes you think John was/ is a Satanist.....he has appeared even on the 700 club in interview. Are you saying they used Christianity as a cover for Satanic practice and beliefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster
    I think JohnOP made a deal with Satan that led to his success with Access Graphics and sacrificing JB was required by Satan as payment for this deal.
    Okay that is it. I thought your posts were a little strange. Now I am certain. John did not make a deal with anyone. Patsy is not the boogie man and Berke is not the Wizard of Oz.

    There was rage that night on the part of Patsy. She lost it as parents do hundreds of times a year and a child is killed. They staged the aftercrime and with their money and connections managed to get away with it. In the process, we have all kinds of theories running amok and yours, imo, is one of them. It is absurd.


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    Let me guess...Muslims were also involved in the Satanist ritual that JB was sacrificed for, starring one dressed as Santa and several other pedos, one of which was someone new to the pedo group that had been targeting JB for years. They brought in a beaver for her to play with before they drugged each piece of pineapple she ate and had her stand on a chair with her hands tied above her head while Patsy napped on the sofa, thinking Charles Kuralt would there any second to photograph JonBenet, who was really being choked in a perverted sex game and stungunned for extra fun.

    The theories get farther and farther out there - if the simplest explanation is the one to go with, then the one of the Rs killed JB and all three of them have been covering for it ever since. It's that simple.

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