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    Special Thread: "Of Michelle, Laci & Janet"

    Hey gorgeous people......special thread for those of you who are familiar with Laci Petersen and Janet Abaroa's cases.

    This thread is for you to outline and discuss the similarities and similar circumstances between the murders of;

    Michelle Young
    Laci Petersen
    Janet Abaroa

    Time and time again I've seen comparisions made and lots of times I've wanted to go back and read, but they get lost (or I do) amongst the thousands of posts.

    A special thanks to Tybee for permission to begin this one.

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    Thanks Sami dear,

    I have to confess that I have never taken the time to even read about Janet's case. This weekend when I have some time I am going to read through that case. Then I'll be able to compare the 3.

    Thanks for the thread. We have a date next Sunday!

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    Let me see if I can post a little about Janet and where you can find more information.

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    This is a quick look at Janet's case for those who aren't familiar and who might not be ready to tackle a whole other forum yet. I have taken parts of posts orginally posted by PrayersForMaura (I hope I'm not breaking any rules doing it this way.) She has done a fantastic job posting all of this and much much more info at this link.

    WHO: The victim is Janet Abaroa, 25 years old
    WHAT: She was found murdered.
    WHEN: Shortly before 11pm on the night of April 26, 2005.
    WHERE: In one of the three bedrooms of the home she shared with her son and husband at 2606 Ferrand Drive.
    HOW: She was stabbed to death, but the weapon has not been recovered.
    WHY: We websleuthers are trying to help determine this.
    The other threads in this forum may shed some light and help provide some much needed resolution to this case.


    THE WHAT, WHERE, WHEN and HOW:
    CRIME SCENE INFO

    About the crime / what was reported to have happened:

    Family members told reporters that Janet's husband, Raven, went to a soccer game that night and found his wife's body when he got home. As police continue their investigation, they say there are no clues to indicate the 25-year-old's homicide was a random act.

    Conflicting reports indicate that officers found Abaroa's body in her home on Ferrand Road at about 11 p.m. April 26 after they were alerted by the woman's co-workers. Reports suggested one of Abaroa's co-workers e-mailed her, and when she failed to respond, she and other co-workers went to check on her.
    Also in this report, Abaroa's husband wasn't at the crime scene, and police had no word on his whereabouts as of Wednesday evening, April 27. Police haven't disclosed whether they believe the slaying was the result of a domestic dispute.

    WHAT WAS DISCOVERED:
    Crime Scene and Investigation Info

    Investigators spent nearly 24 hours on the scene, collecting evidence and talking with neighbors. However, police are not talking much at all, saying they don't want to hinder the investigation.

    But they did say this:
    "Nothing in the investigation so far indicates that the homicide was a random act," Durham Police Department spokeswoman Kammie Michael said in a statement.

    In a later story, this was reported:
    When the 911 call came in last Tuesday, police thought they were responding to a shooting, saying the victim's husband, Raven Abaroa, called police to "report a gunshot wound."

    After officers got to the house on Ferrand Drive, Janet Abaroa's husband, Raven, told them his wife was upstairs hurt.

    Authorities found the 25-year-old mother on the bedroom floor with what appeared to be a stab wound in her chest.

    Durham Police said 25-year-old Janet Abaroa was found with multiple stab wounds on a bedroom floor inside her home in western Durham, where Abaroa lived with her husband, Raven Abaroa, and their 6-month-old son. Abaroa was pronounced dead at the scene.


    Court papers show there were large amounts of blood on the floor, on the wall and near a side door of the home.

    Here is the link to the time line.

    Here is the link to the Media thread.


    Much of Janet's forum has been archived recently and to tell you the truth I don't know how to find the old threads. I'm sure someone who's been around longer than me will come around and clue me in. TIA!

    I would also like to invite you to visit
    Tears For Janet.com and meet Janet and her family. There has been no news and no media coverage in such a long time I would like to invite you to please think about leaving encouraging words for Janet's wonderful family. I was honored to meet almost every single one of them at the Vigil and they are a courageous and loving family.

    There is also a very large gallery of Janet and her family, her friends, her son and the candlelight vigil last year.

    I hope this has been helpful and TY for this thread. I look forward to many new eyes taking a look at Janet's case and by doing that showing the family support.


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    Scandi, I've been reading your posts here for a long time. I hope the above post helps you catch up. Thanks again Sami, mods, everyone.

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    Janet, Laci & Michelle

    All three women intelligent, hardworking, pretty

    All three - pregnant

    All three - no signs of force entry

    All three - rumors & proof of affairs

    All three - dogs in the home

    All three - weapons not found

    All three - Parents that deny the fact their child is or could be guilty

    All three - Husbands I would deem to be sociopaths please see http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32061

    All three - Husbands - deny, deny, deny

    All three - Strange or inappropriate behaviors after the murder

    All three - Have come up with a previous plan as an alibi as to where they were "at the time of the murder"

    All three - IMO premeditated

    All three - Life Insurance or rumors about Life Insurance

    All three - Family have some sort of $ issue

    All three - Search Warrant of Vehicles

    All three - Husbands into some sporting activity

    All three - Computer/Laptop searched

    All three - Husband's retained attorney immediately

    All three - Husband's have some sort of weird attachment to their Vehicles

    Janet & Michelle - "Crime Lab" backlog

    Janet & Michelle - Young child home alone with Mother at the time

    All three - Refused Polygraph

    All three - Job issues

    Jason & Raven - Aggressive in nature at times, but have some say people think they are "such a guy"

    All three - Living beyond their means


    A post here expresses the attitudes of deceptive of all three men here:

    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45093

    Deceptive

    Nervous at first; calms down as interview progresses
    Angry; nonspecific; won't calm down
    Overly anxious; seems confused
    Overly polite
    Defensive
    Will be quiet; afraid he will say something to get him in trouble
    Evasive in answers
    Non commital in response
    Complains; uncooperative
    Guarded about what they tell you
    Have to give a reason why they don't cooperate
    Defeated; slumps head forward

    I am not as familiar with Michelle's Murder as I am with Laci Petersons and Janet Christiansen Abaroa's..

    This is just a quick off the top of my head listing, please feel free to point out any inaccuracies as I am not as familiar with Michelle Young's case.
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    Just a quick addition to the previous post above (which is a great post!!)....

    All 3 women were pregnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminatrixator
    Janet, Laci & Michelle

    respectfully snipped for space
    Thanks you so much for your fabulous post!

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    Thanks so much LL&S for your really helpful post. Much appreciated and a perfect start to understanding the case. Just from a quick read the motive seems the same with baby on the way and I didn't see an alibi for the husband. I need to find out why LE didn't think it was a random crime, and so far it seems because they didn't find evidence at the scene of an intruder.

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    Doh, I had all three pregnant there, and edited.

    Please note if you go to Janet's forum you will see i have chronic edit compulsion.

    I fixed my original post...i'm sure i will add to it.
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    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminatrixator
    Doh, I had all three pregnant there, and edited.

    Please note if you go to Janet's forum you will see i have chronic edit compulsion.

    I fixed my original post...i'm sure i will add to it.
    No prob!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandi
    Thanks so much LL&S for your really helpful post. Much appreciated and a perfect start to understanding the case. Just from a quick read the motive seems the same with baby on the way and I didn't see an alibi for the husband. I need to find out why LE didn't think it was a random crime, and so far it seems because they didn't find evidence at the scene of an intruder.
    My pleasure!

    Raven took off to a "pick up" soccer game, which has never been confirmed by anyone, and came home to "find" his wife. I have posted over various Durham NC forums asking if ANYONE could tell me about this "pick up game" he says he went to. I've never had anyone come back and say, yea I was there or I saw this game or they have these kind of soccer games all the time around here or something. I have not found one other person who can tell me about this "pick up" game. I would love to know if LE ever found anyone that was at this game.

    Some of the details I've forgotten.... Trix are you out there honey, can you help me out? Wasn't it reported that The Rav stopped for a sport drink or something on the way home from the game? and if so, do we know where and if a security video was ever found showing him buying said drink? maybe a receipt, or empty bottle? Did The Rav ever say what park he went to to join this soccer game? TIA!
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    The WRAL article references that Raven left Ferrand "around 830pm" to go play indoor soccer in Morrisville. (Morrisville is a small town, SE of Durham, near the airport, and before Cary and ultimately Raleigh.)

    Morrisville, the Carolina Sportsplex:

    http://www.carolinasportsplex.com/

    http://www.mapquest.com/directions/...C&2z=27560-8847

    As far as stopping for a drink before or after game, I don't remember that as fact, just rumor, I have not gone through all the threads yet, but when I get time I will look and see if someone posted it as fact or as rumor when I get time.
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    All three couples had college educations.

    The wives all seemed to have more outgoing personalities than their husband.

    The husbands seemed to have secrets, (more than 'other women,') from their wives.

    The wives appeared more in tune with their present circumstance, ie expecting a child, financial, etc.

    The husband's employment was sketchy or unstable.

    The husbands seemed to have 'control' issues.

    Each husband had 'computer contacts' their wife wasn't aware of.

    All three husbands withdrew from the wife's family.

    IMHO, the main thing that connects these three cases is that the wife was pregnant. But if you step back and look at several other cases that have appeared in Websleuths, you would see that less the pregnancy, these cases have many things in common with a number of cases.

    Secrets, infedelity, control, $$ (in that the spouse is better off with the wife dead than a divorce). There are other cases where many of the same components existed but with an additional wrinkle and that is the wife found out about the 'secrets' or had just grown weary of the 'control,' and wanted out and was in the process of contacting or had already contacted a divorce attorney.

    So, to me, the biggest connection to the cases is 'control.' When these guys feel they're losing 'control,' they panic and react.

    JMHO
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    Yikes I was posting as you did Fran, we have a few of the same things listed (college) (Jobs)

    Janet was not as outgoing as Raven, she was actually shy, until you got to know her as stated by her friends on the tearsforjanet.com site.

    Raven was very outgoing.

    I am going to update the post above to add the parts I missed. I did not add the sketchy information on the jobs, with the sales jobs beecause I am not as familiar with Jason as I am with Raven & Scott

    I will also add all three husbands were controlling. Raven was extremely controlling, Scott was controlling in less obvious ways and again, I'm sorry I am not as up to speed with Jason as I am with the other two.

    I do have some questions that I do not know - re: moving etc. and Mother's that is in my above post that maybe someone can answer for me.

    <I deleted my post after Fran's and reposted it below to add her comments>
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    Terminatrixator, those are some great questions (sorry I don't have any answers )! I hope someone does though. It would be interesting to see if there is a pattern of upbringing and these guys murdering their pregnant wives. (Yes, I do believe Raven and Jason are as guilty as good ol Scott.)

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    All three women intelligent, hardworking, pretty

    All three - pregnant

    All three - no signs of force entry

    All three - rumors & proof of affairs

    All three - dogs in the home

    All three - weapons not found

    All three - Parents that deny the fact their child is or could be guilty

    All three - Husbands I would deem to be sociopaths please see http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32061

    All three - Husbands - deny, deny, deny

    All three - Strange or inappropriate behaviors after the murder

    All three - Have come up with a previous plan as an alibi as to where they were "at the time of the murder"

    All three - IMO premeditated

    All three - Life Insurance or rumors about Life Insurance

    All three - Family have some sort of $ issue

    All three - Search Warrant of Vehicles

    All three - Husbands into some sporting activity

    All three - Computer/Laptop searched

    All three - Husband's retained attorney immediately

    All three - Husband's have some sort of weird attachment to their Vehicles

    Janet & Michelle - "Crime Lab" backlog

    Janet & Michelle - Young child home alone with Mother at the time

    All three - Husbands refused Polygraph

    All three - Husband's job issues (Husband's job work history sketchy or unstable)

    Jason & Raven - Aggressive in nature at times, but have some say people think they are "such a guy"

    All three - Living beyond their means

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    recently added

    All three - Husbands & Wives - College background

    All three - Husbands worked in Sales

    All three - Husband's jobs are fairly new

    All three women - In college were into sports (ie cheerleading, soccer)

    All three husbands - Kept secrets (more than 'other women,') from their wives. Raven, embezzlement, Scott "the Boat", Jason "the Gift" etc.

    The wives appeared more in tune with their present circumstance, ie expecting a child, financial, etc.

    All three - Husbands seemed to have 'control' issues.

    Each husband had 'computer contacts' their wife wasn't aware of.

    All three husbands withdrew from the wife's family.


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    Questions:

    Laci & Scott had moved around
    Janet & Raven had moved around a bit
    Did Michelle & Jason?

    Scott & Raven have (step siblings)
    Did Jason?

    What do we know about the Mother of Jason?......I find a connection between the strange attitude of Karyn (Raven's Mother) & Jackie (Scott's Mother)....

    Is there a pattern between upbringing and these men that end up having their pregnant wive's murdered.
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    You can also add Lori Hacking to this list, and see the pattern also.

    There is a a bit of a difference with Mark Hacking. He had a stable family which I think helped him to come to terms with what he had done, this is not something I see in the Petersons or in Raven's family. Again, I don't know much about Jason Youngs family, so I cannot comment about that.
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    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    Just found where it states Jason's father passed when he was 10 and the Mother remarried.

    All three husbands - Stayed with Sisters after the murder (Jason with Sister, Scott with Step-Sister, Raven with Sister-in-Law.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke

    "Safety never takes a holiday" ~Britney Romito

    "It's easier to KEEP Raven happy, than it is to MAKE Raven happy." ~Janet Christiansen (Abaroa)

    "Right now you have the capabilities of being a God" ~Karen Abaroa Bolton

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminatrixator
    Yikes I was posting as you did Fran, we have a few of the same things listed (college) (Jobs)

    Janet was not as outgoing as Raven, she was actually shy, until you got to know her as stated by her friends on the tearsforjanet.com site.

    Raven was very outgoing.

    I am going to update the post above to add the parts I missed. I did not add the sketchy information on the jobs, with the sales jobs beecause I am not as familiar with Jason as I am with Raven & Scott

    I will also add all three husbands were controlling. Raven was extremely controlling, Scott was controlling in less obvious ways and again, I'm sorry I am not as up to speed with Jason as I am with the other two.

    I do have some questions that I do not know - re: moving etc. and Mother's that is in my above post that maybe someone can answer for me.

    <I deleted my post after Fran's and reposted it below to add her comments>
    The fact that Jason lawyered up immediately, has never talked to LE, other than when they were confiscating his car, cut off all communications with Michelle's family immediately, NEVER has given any comment to news media, hasn't responded to LE's repeated attempts to interview him, even with his attorney present................control, IMHO.

    Jason's job was new, just three months.

    JMHO
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    PS......I had said that about the outgoing part, including Janet, as that's how her friends described her. Although Raven was outgoing, Janet was when she wanted to be...........uhmmmm, perhaps when she wasn't around controlling Raven.......fran

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminatrixator
    You can also add Lori Hacking to this list, and see the pattern also.

    There is a a bit of a difference with Mark Hacking. He had a stable family which I think helped him to come to terms with what he had done, this is not something I see in the Petersons or in Raven's family. Again, I don't know much about Jason Youngs family, so I cannot comment about that.

    Personally, I think each of these guys felt threatened by the 'intelligence' and success of their wife. Laci graduated before SP, although he was older. Janet had a job, Raven did not. Michelle was very successful in her career and Jason had just started his new 'sales' job. Lori Hacking had a successful carreer in the financial industry, had graduated from college, and Mark was lying about even going to school.

    Oh,.............all three, FOUR, husbands, had a trouble with telling the TRUTH!

    JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by fran
    All three couples had college educations.

    The wives all seemed to have more outgoing personalities than their husband.

    The husbands seemed to have secrets, (more than 'other women,') from their wives.

    The wives appeared more in tune with their present circumstance, ie expecting a child, financial, etc.

    The husband's employment was sketchy or unstable.

    The husbands seemed to have 'control' issues.

    Each husband had 'computer contacts' their wife wasn't aware of.

    All three husbands withdrew from the wife's family.

    IMHO, the main thing that connects these three cases is that the wife was pregnant. But if you step back and look at several other cases that have appeared in Websleuths, you would see that less the pregnancy, these cases have many things in common with a number of cases.

    Secrets, infedelity, control, $$ (in that the spouse is better off with the wife dead than a divorce). There are other cases where many of the same components existed but with an additional wrinkle and that is the wife found out about the 'secrets' or had just grown weary of the 'control,' and wanted out and was in the process of contacting or had already contacted a divorce attorney.

    So, to me, the biggest connection to the cases is 'control.' When these guys feel they're losing 'control,' they panic and react.

    JMHO
    fran
    Great post Fran and I think you are exactly right regarding the "control" issue!

    One thing I noticed differently about the cases is that Michelle, Laci and Lori's cases all have/had huge media publicity and POI/Suspect named fairly quickly.....Janet's case - no publicity or named POI/Suspect. Because of LE or Nifong in Durham, perhaps??
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    Fran, thanks for your post. I agree with you.

    Your first paragraph, you could insert Raven and Scott along with Jason, except that Raven has done a short impromptu phone interview (he pretty much had no choice but to comment) he also was caught coming outside of the embezzlement hearing by media, he was with his attorney, Raven spoke briefly and the look on his face....priceless.

    Scott fits in there, except the part about refusal to talk to the "news media". Though many times Scott did refuse to talk to Media (remember him walking around with the telephone in his hand outside the home?) I also remember the crocodile tears during the Sawyer interview. ugh is all I have to say.

    I agree that Janet seemed to be outgoing after you got to know her. I agree 100% that Raven was controlling. From what I have heard, he controlled what she wore, who she spoke too, what she did, he was an extreme control freak and believe he still is to this day.

    All three men are Master Manipulators. I feel as though all three are sociopaths and the words of Sharon still ring true......Divorce is always an option.

    I think with sociopaths, it's almost as though they need to snuff out the essence of these women because their goodness is something they cannot have, yet they don't want anyone else to have it either.

    It's just my perspective on these men, I have no clue why any man would chose to murder their wife, but these men do seem to have so much in common, and it's my opinion that these men did indeed kill their wives.

    Ewww, you raise some interesting questions.

    The following is just a bunch of ramblings of mine, numbered only to help me post and to sorta through a bunch of facts etc. of what was going on at the time of Janet's murder to help those that have not followed Janet's case, to understand what was happening in Durham at that time in comparison to Michelle's and Laci's Murder. Please bear with me.

    I believe there is a huge difference with the media attention given to these three cases.

    Laci Peterson lived in Modesto, the home of Carole Sund Carrington Foundation. Modesto has definitely dealt with "the missing person" aspect of a crime before. Laci was pregnant and went missing, that drew out a lot of people searching for Laci and thus the huge media following.

    When Janet was murdered, many things were happening at the same time publicly.

    1. On April 18, 2005 NC Office of the Governor Mike Easley appointed Michael Nifong to the office of District Attorney, to fill Durham District Attorney Jim Hardin's seat, who became a Superior Court Judge, until the election.

    2. On April 26, 2005 - Jennifer Wilbanks was reported missing. This was on every News station for days on end, throughout the Nation and the World.

    3. On April 26, 2005 - Janet Marie Christiansen Abaroa and her unborn baby were found murdered in her Durham, North Carolina home.

    4. On April 27, 2005 - Michael Nifong was sworn into office as the appointed DA. <To see the timeline of District Attorney - election issues - etc. please check out:

    http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=186

    5. On April 27, 2005 - Medical Examiner notified of Janet's murder.

    6. On April 28, 2005 - Medical Examiner views the body.

    7. On April 28, 2005 - DA Nifong hands Freda Black (Assistant Prosecutor for the State against Michael Peterson) a resignation letter to be signed. She resigns and goes back to private practice.

    8. On April 30, 2005 - Jennifer Wilbanks was "recovered" - still top news story.

    9. May 6, 2005 - Jennifer Wilibanks hits the front cover of People Magazine. Still #1 National Story. http://www.blogmagazine.com/blog_mag...y_bride_i.html

    10. May 7, 2005 - Funeral held for Janet Marie Christiansen Abaroa in Buena Vista, Virginia.

    11. May 9, 2005 - Memorial Service held for Janet Marie Christiansen Abaroa held in Annandale, Virginia.

    12. Janet & Raven's family both lived out of State. They had many good friends in the area, though immediate families are both out of the City of Durham, and out of the State of North Carolina. Not a lot of opportunity for media.

    13. Police state "not a random act" "no sign of force entry"

    14. Raven moved back to Utah....not a big chance of another homicide by whom, IMO, is the perpetrator, happening in Durham, NC. Raven is in Utah now, not a big chance of media hounding the husband.

    15. Janet's family lives all over the United States and went back to their respective homes to deal with their grief and loss,

    16. Janet's family has done some interivews. At the beginning of the case there is media footage. <edited this to move rest of paragraph to it's own number>

    17. Durham, NC was the home of Peterson (East) trial, this caused a huge circus like atmosphere during this trial. Rumors surface that this case will be appealed. Could this be the reason for more of a tight-lipped attitude of Law Enforcement?

    18. Within a week of Freda Black's forced resignation media reports surface with speculation that this popular Assistant Prosecutor of Michael Peterson trial will be running against DA Nifong.

    19. July 2005 - Freda Black announces she will be running against DA Nifong in the Primary elections to be held in May 2006.

    So, the top news storys for Durham was DA Nifong and Freda Black and the upcoming elections.

    20. On March 14, 2006 - A woman in Durham, NC told police she was raped by Duke Lacross Players.

    21. Between March 14, 2006 - Present. One of the Top National Headlines is the Duke Case, with DA Nifong giving 100's of interviews. This is still in the news daily in Durham and across the world.

    22. <separated from no. 16>
    They did several interivews prior to and during the Candlelight Vigil held in Durham, North Carolina April 29, 2006 after the one year anniversary of Janet's brutal murder.

    23. <edited to add) Sunday, April 30, 2006 Media attention again focused in Durham, NC as the Blackpanther Association were holding a rally in Durham on April 31, 2006 re: Duke Case.

    23. <edited to add> May 2, 2006 Primary Elections - DA Nifong won.

    Why one crime captures the media attention and the publics attention over another is something I don't know. I think there is varying reasons and it's something I have pondered. The above is just for a time reference.

    Because of the Duke case, with DA Nifong front and center, Local and National Media have been camped out in the Raleigh, Durham area for a while now. National Media agencies got what I would call a "two-for."

    When Michelle Young's murder occurred, National Media were already present in the area. They were getting two stories with the manpower that was already in the area.

    I really would like to see more information and more studies done on the common bonds these men share, and the common bonds of these women, what are the warning signs, why do men kill their pregnant wives, why do they feel murder is an option, what is the common demoninator genetically and mentally that these men have.
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    Interesting thoughts and lots of facts about the Abora case. I must admit, I followed Janet's case at the beginning but just watched as time went on and there were no developments, no news, and Raven split town.

    All of these cases have common bonds, yet are miles apart. But, IMO, like any of the other 'wife' deaths we've studied, they all have a common denominator, a sociopath spouse. Oh, they may not have been 'officially' diagnosed, but they're definitely recognizable. You can see it in the progression of the relationships, the cases, the aftermaths. It's there, lurking behind closed doors,(the sociopathic mind). IMO.

    The only reason some cases take hold of the media and others fall by the wayside is because of those connected to the 'victim.' It's the family and friends who tirelessly fight for justice for their loved one. They don't give up. They contact anyone and everyone who will listen to them. When one door closes with a 'no,' they don't give up but go on and on and on. It just takes getting the RIGHT door to open, and all the other previously closed doors will open back up.

    Of course, the local political atmosphere and the additional headlines of the day did much damage into getting justice for Janet. That and the ridiculous escapade of the FAKE runaway bride. I hope she's happy that she may be one of the biggest reasons a murderer has gone free for killing this young mother, expectant mother.

    I don't blame Janet's family for her case not being looked into more by the media. It's just the way it worked out. Plus, with them living so far away from the incident and the husband fleeing the state, it makes local LE's job much harder. It's like the March case. She wasn't pregnant, but the mother of two beautiful young children. It took 10 years, but in the end, with the dogged persistance of her parents and LE that wouldn't quit, they finally got their man, her sociopathic husband.

    That's why we need to keep going for Janet. Don't let her be forgotten. When there's no news, it's easy to forget about it. Even the Michelle Young case is starting to go 'cold.' But.........we have to believe that LE is working behind the scenes, trying to solve these sad cases.

    FWIW, even IF these husbands are guilty as many of us feel they are and IF they appear to get away with it, doesn't mean they won't do it again. I can't even count the number of cases I've seen in recent years where the 'husband' perp wasn't caught for twenty years,...............after the second and sometimes third wife's death..............Then LE sees a pattern and finally connects the dots.

    JMHO
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    Thanks for your input Fran.

    I believe both cases will be solved. It's a hard case when there is no witness, no murder weapon, even with a murder weapon, it's still a circumstantial evidence case. We all know how hard a Circumstantial Evidence case is to try and win.

    I do believe that Raven is the murderer and do believe, beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is capable of murdering again.

    I hope and pray for Justice for Janet and Michelle, their unborn children and their family & friends.
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    You dear posters here carrying the ball!

    I am just throwing out a thought to see if it fits, so please don't nail me. OK? ;}

    In Laci's case, Laci was always very close to her mother. They were like best buds and so they did alot of things together, talked on the phone alot, etc. Sometimes I thought this closeness might have started problems between Scott and Laci because Sharon, God bless her heart which is the best, was so controling of Laci.

    Of course this had nothing to do with Scott murdering Laci, but he might have got tired of it and felt 2nd place to Sharon. It happens alot in real life. My mom was so controling that she would call at 7 each morning to get me out of bed. She insisted my husband get a college degree, and this pressure was very hard on him - he grew up in Ohio at Boys Town.

    So I'm just wondering if there were similar forces at work here in Michelle and Janets cases.

    Scandi

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