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    First Hand Knowledge Of What It Feels Like To Be Strangled!!

    I posted this over at another board...that shall remain nameless. But, I thought that you nice folks here, would like to read it, too.

    I would just like to say that when I was really young, and in Elementary School, I rode the bus with a high school boy, that I swear was satan's son. He was really mean to all of the younger kids on the bus. While I was sitting in one of the seats, minding my OWN business, he was sitting directly behind me. He took a cord, about the width of a shoe string, and placed it in front of my neck, and began to pull as hard as he could, from behind. As he was doing this, I heard his grunts....from pulling so tight...and in between his grunts, his laughter. He apparently thought this was funny!! Anyway, I can still remember gasping for air, as my throat closed in...and also scratching my neck, trying desperately to remove the cord so that I could breathe. As I was about to lose conciousness....satan's son finally let go. I will never forget that feeling as long as I live. Having your airway cut off, is a terrible feeling. I almost clawed my neck to shreds...just trying to get my fingers under it enough so that I could at least TRY to pull it away. My strength, being an elementary student, was no match for the male (satan's son) high school student. He was suspended from the BUS! Geez....what a "high" price to pay, for "merely" tryng to strangle someone. His butt should have gone to juvenille detention. I was not the only person that he did this to, this guy was a "real sweetheart". Now for the reason that I have went into my memory bank, and pulled this out....I believe that JB's head injury came first..and then the strangulation....or ELSE...she would have had severe scratches on her neck, from trying to remove the cord, AND would have had lots of her own FRESH skin (not old dna that is always present) under her fingernails. IMO the head wound came first...followed by the strangulation. Trust me....I should know. (IMO)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames
    I posted this over at another board...that shall remain nameless. But, I thought that you nice folks here, would like to read it, too.

    I would just like to say that when I was really young, and in Elementary School, I rode the bus with a high school boy, that I swear was satan's son. He was really mean to all of the younger kids on the bus. While I was sitting in one of the seats, minding my OWN business, he was sitting directly behind me. He took a cord, about the width of a shoe string, and placed it in front of my neck, and began to pull as hard as he could, from behind. As he was doing this, I heard his grunts....from pulling so tight...and in between his grunts, his laughter. He apparently thought this was funny!! Anyway, I can still remember gasping for air, as my throat closed in...and also scratching my neck, trying desperately to remove the cord so that I could breathe. As I was about to lose conciousness....satan's son finally let go. I will never forget that feeling as long as I live. Having your airway cut off, is a terrible feeling. I almost clawed my neck to shreds...just trying to get my fingers under it enough so that I could at least TRY to pull it away. My strength, being an elementary student, was no match for the male (satan's son) high school student. He was suspended from the BUS! Geez....what a "high" price to pay, for "merely" tryng to strangle someone. His butt should have gone to juvenille detention. I was not the only person that he did this to, this guy was a "real sweetheart". Now for the reason that I have went into my memory bank, and pulled this out....I believe that JB's head injury came first..and then the strangulation....or ELSE...she would have had severe scratches on her neck, from trying to remove the cord, AND would have had lots of her own FRESH skin (not old dna that is always present) under her fingernails. IMO the head wound came first...followed by the strangulation. Trust me....I should know. (IMO)
    I agree, JonBenet had degraded dna under her fingernail, not her skin or someone elses, I think I too will claw and scratch to get the garrotte off, if I were being strangled. Unconcious, she lay there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Show Me
    I agree, JonBenet had degraded dna under her fingernail, not her skin or someone elses, I think I too will claw and scratch to get the garrotte off, if I were being strangled. Unconcious, she lay there.
    Exactly...there is no way that anyone out there can convince me otherwise. I know from first hand experience...that her own skin would have been under her nails. I also know from my own experience...that even though I was strangled from behind, IF he had of managed to strangle me from the front....I still would have been too busy trying to remove the cord from my neck, to have scratched him too. So, I wouldn't expect her to have her attacker's skin under her nails...because of that reason. BUT...she should have had all sorts of scratches on her neck, and her own skin under her nails...from clawing. The reason for the lack of scratches and skin....is because she was unconcious.
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    I think so too,that and the fact that JR says the head wound came last...means it likely came first,and this story proves it,IMO.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    I have just finished reading a book written by a woman who was a PA in NY for almost 30 years.

    One of the things she talked about was strangulation.
    She said that when a person is strangled the eyes have
    a lot of pitechia(sp). Was this true regarding JB's eyes.
    I can't remember what the autosy report said about her eyes.

    I agree that a person would try and grab the area of the neck to remove the rope.

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    I have always believed that the head wound came first but never thought about the added support of that evidence that, had she been conscious during the strangulation, she would have been clawing at her neck to try to get air. Thank you for sharing your experience, Ames. I am sorry that you had to go through that as a child. Bullies are awful people.

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    Wow, Ames, I'm glad you lived to tell this. What a sick guy-where is he now? Prison? I doubt he changed his ways. (Sorry, off-topic but I was curious.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taximom
    Wow, Ames, I'm glad you lived to tell this. What a sick guy-where is he now? Prison? I doubt he changed his ways. (Sorry, off-topic but I was curious.)
    Thanks, I am glad that I lived to tell it too!!! Yep, he was a sicko alright....to be honest, I don't know where he is now. I know that he got married (POOR GIRL!) and had some kids (poor KIDS!). I am sure that he probably never changed his evil ways, I think that once a bully, always a bully...that usually ends up behind bars. And thats probably where he is right now...and where he NEEDED to be after he tried to strangle me. I will never forget that feeling, as long as I live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypros
    I have always believed that the head wound came first but never thought about the added support of that evidence that, had she been conscious during the strangulation, she would have been clawing at her neck to try to get air. Thank you for sharing your experience, Ames. I am sorry that you had to go through that as a child. Bullies are awful people.
    Thank you Cypros....I agree, bullies ARE awful people.

    There is no doubt in my mind WHATSOEVER...that the head wound came first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlene733510
    I have just finished reading a book written by a woman who was a PA in NY for almost 30 years.

    One of the things she talked about was strangulation.
    She said that when a person is strangled the eyes have
    a lot of pitechia(sp). Was this true regarding JB's eyes.
    I can't remember what the autosy report said about her eyes.

    I agree that a person would try and grab the area of the neck to remove the rope.
    I don't know about JB, I couldn't tell by the autopsy photos. I did though....a little bit...from ruptured blood vessels in the eyelids. I believe that the head wound did not kill her though, it knocked her out. So, I am sure that she did have some bruising on the eyelids (pitechia...sp?), because she wasn't dead, yet.
    "This time we get it right."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames
    I posted this over at another board...that shall remain nameless. But, I thought that you nice folks here, would like to read it, too.

    I would just like to say that when I was really young, and in Elementary School, I rode the bus with a high school boy, that I swear was satan's son. He was really mean to all of the younger kids on the bus. While I was sitting in one of the seats, minding my OWN business, he was sitting directly behind me. He took a cord, about the width of a shoe string, and placed it in front of my neck, and began to pull as hard as he could, from behind. As he was doing this, I heard his grunts....from pulling so tight...and in between his grunts, his laughter. He apparently thought this was funny!! Anyway, I can still remember gasping for air, as my throat closed in...and also scratching my neck, trying desperately to remove the cord so that I could breathe. As I was about to lose conciousness....satan's son finally let go. I will never forget that feeling as long as I live. Having your airway cut off, is a terrible feeling. I almost clawed my neck to shreds...just trying to get my fingers under it enough so that I could at least TRY to pull it away. My strength, being an elementary student, was no match for the male (satan's son) high school student. He was suspended from the BUS! Geez....what a "high" price to pay, for "merely" tryng to strangle someone. His butt should have gone to juvenille detention. I was not the only person that he did this to, this guy was a "real sweetheart". Now for the reason that I have went into my memory bank, and pulled this out....I believe that JB's head injury came first..and then the strangulation....or ELSE...she would have had severe scratches on her neck, from trying to remove the cord, AND would have had lots of her own FRESH skin (not old dna that is always present) under her fingernails. IMO the head wound came first...followed by the strangulation. Trust me....I should know. (IMO)
    I was strangeled as a 20 yr old by my boyfriend to the point I blacked out for a second. I didnt dig at my neck, or scratch him up. He took me standing up and off guard, I had little time to react or get a grip on him anywhere.

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    If her hands were restrained, she wouldn't have been able to claw at her neck.

    If that bully would've tried something like that with one of my kids, being kicked off the bus would've been the LEAST of his troubles! What a jerk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goddess
    I was strangeled as a 20 yr old by my boyfriend to the point I blacked out for a second. I didnt dig at my neck, or scratch him up. He took me standing up and off guard, I had little time to react or get a grip on him anywhere.
    Did he use his hands...because its easier and faster to strangle someone that way, because you can squeeze the neck all the way around, and it doesn't take long to close it off, and cut off your air. It would be different with a cord, with someone pulling....from behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by julianne
    If her hands were restrained, she wouldn't have been able to claw at her neck.
    If her hands had been restrained, she would have fought at the ropes or cord that was binding them, causing frictions burns...IMO. I do not believe her hands were restrained...I think the head blow came first.

    If that bully would've tried something like that with one of my kids, being kicked off the bus would've been the LEAST of his troubles! What a jerk!
    I know, my parents were and still are extremely passive. I have two kids...and IF something like that ever happened to one of them....they would be the LAST person that the jerk tried to strangle. I can assure you of that!
    "This time we get it right."

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    Wow Ames...what a story!

    I also believe JonBenet was hit over the head first...strangled last. She did not have skin under her nails.

    Her hyoid bone was intact...and although there was pettechiae, not as much if she had been concious!

    The cord used was embedded in her neck in an almost perfect circumference. No way someone who was concious could get strangled so perfectly. Her tongue was not bloated either...suggesting to me that she was close to dying from the head wound.

    My belief is that the strangulation was staging.
    ...We have said to ourselves, look, there is never going to be a victory in this, there is no victory...John Ramsey: 6/24/98

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