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    TX - League City, WhtFem Skeletal 52UFTX, 24-34, "Janet Doe" - Upper Denture, Sep'91

    Heres another one....
    Edyth Ann Warner Missing Since: February 23, 1991 from Las Cruces, New Mexico http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1075dfnm.html

    and...



    Unidentified White Female Located on September 8, 1991 on Calder Road in League City, Galveston County, Texas. http://doenetwork.org/cases/52uftx.html

    (notice that they both had back injuries)
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    That looks like a REALLY good match. Edyth Warner had back problems and so did Uindent. Female. Also, UI was murdered (beaten and strangled) and EW had history of domestic disputes w/ hubby---beating, strangulation---possibly resulting in a crime of passion.

    Great Work...can you tell the DoeNetwork or do you have a connection there?

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    Only one problem that may NOT be problem with this match---the remains were skeletal and Edyth Warner went missing in late Feb of 1991 and Unidentified was found in September 1991---not even a year had passed but w/ climate issues etc. decomposition can greatly vary...I am definately not an expert.

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    TX - League City-WhtFem 52UFTX, 24-34, Killing Fields-Upper Denture (5,6,7,8), Sep'91

    Billy Jean Hall
    http://www.marylandmissing.com/missingpersons.html

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 929DFMD

    Billy Jean Hall
    Missing since February 28, 1985 from Jessup, Anne Arundel County, Maryland.
    Classification: Involuntary
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    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: July 19, 1960
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 24 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3" (160 cm); 110 lbs. (50 kg)
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Medium blonde hair; blue eyes.
    Marks, Scars: Ms. Hall has a large vertical scar on her abdomen, a deep, wide horizontal scar on her buttocks and faded scars on her chin and hands. Hall suffered brain damage due to a traffic accident and should have a scar where a tap was done through her skull. She also has an orthodontic screw, a richmond screw installed above her right eye, a skull plate inserted in her head and fractured fingers.
    Other: Her blood type is O. She was a known drug abuser.


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    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Hall left Jessup on February 28, 1985 in a Nissan Camper to go to a biker convention in Daytona Beach, Florida. She was to be gone for two weeks.
    After four weeks, no one had heard from Hall and she was officially reported missing. There was activity on Ms. Hall’s credit card in Daytona, Florida. It is felt that she arrived, but never returned. Investigators suspect foul play.

    http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?U200500018S


    Name: TX - Jane Doe 0018

    Classification: Unidentified
    Investigative Case #: 91-2200
    NCIC #: U-515421321
    Dental Charts Available: Y
    DNA Available: N
    Skeletal Remains (y/n): Y
    Located Date: 1991-09-08
    Date of Death From: 1991-03-08
    Area Found: League City, TX
    Approximate Age: 28-34
    Gender: Female
    Height: 60 to 65 inches
    Weight: 0 pounds
    Race: White
    Hair Color: Lt. Brown
    Eye Color: Unknown
    Identifying Characteristics: Upper dentures, previous fractures to right 1st rib next to spine and right 2nd rib next to spine, previous compression injuries to upper and lower spine. She may have had noticeable difficulties with head or spine movement.
    Jewelry: Size 7 white "Highlights" high heels (Payless brand).
    Circumstances: Unknown. Body of victim was found on September 8, 1991 in a horse and cattle pasture in the vicinity of the 3100 block of Calder Rd. in League City, TX. Date of death has been determined to be one to six months prior to recovery date. Cause of death has not yet been released.
    Primary Investigating Agency

    Investigative Agency: League City Police Department
    Phone: (281) 338-4173
    Website: www.lcpd.com

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/52uftx.html

    I do not know if this girl was posted before but I had a hard time trying to find info ,does anyone know where I could look?
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 02-01-2013 at 12:17 AM. Reason: add

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    Here's Jane Doe's DN Page:

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/52uftx.html

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 52UFTX


    Unidentified White Female Located on September 8, 1991 on Calder Road in League City, Galveston County, Texas.
    Cause of death was homicide. The victim had been beaten and strangled.
    Estimated Date of Death: one to six weeks prior to discovery.
    <LI>Skeletal Remains

    Vital Statistics

    • Estimated age: Circa 31 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'0" - 5'3"; 100 - 130 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Fine, light brown hair. She may have had a fair complexion. Her eye color is unknown. She was of short stature and had a slender build.
    • Marks, Scars: She had numerous old, healed injuries which were unrelated to her death. Her right first and second ribs showed healed fractures at the spine; the victim had a compression injury to her upper spince in three place; her lower spine showed signs of an old, poorly-healed compression injury. These injuries and her poor dental condition may have been the result of a singular injury event which occurred some time prior to her homicide. As a result of her injuries, the victim may have had obvious problems with her head or spinal movements.
    • Dentals: Available. Upper dentures. Teeth 5, 6, 7, & 8 were a low quality denture and her overall dental condition was poor.
    • Clothing: Size 7 white "Highlights" high heels (Payless brand).
    • DNA: Available

    Case History
    The victim was discovered in a field off of the 3000 block of Calder Road in League City, Texas on September 8, 1991.
    This woman is the second unidentified female homicide victim discovered in League City, Texas; the first, Case File 35UFTX, was located in 1986.
    Both murders remain unsolved but may have been related in some way; both victims were found in the same area of Calder Road. This victim was the fourth body that was found in the area, dubbed by the press "the Killing Fields." Heide Fye’s body was discovered in April of 1984. Laura Miller’s remains were found on February 2, 1986, as well as the skeletal remains of another unidentified woman who police named "Jane Doe". Authorities theorize that the four women were all killed by the same person . Police say all the women were similar in age, height and hair color and all were found in similar ways: nude, lying face up. The women were not buried, just hidden from view.
    The League City Janet Doe case is included along with 26 other women in the area that have been murdered or missing since 1971. Authorities believe there may be several serial killers responsible for some of the deaths and disappearances. A task force of various local law enforcement agencies and the FBI has been formed in order to solve these cases, they call themselves Operation HALT (Homicide-Abduction Liaison Team.)

    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this victim's identity or the circumstances surrounding her homicide, please contact:
    League City Police Department
    281-338-4173
    OR
    Federal Bureau Of Investigation
    (FBI)
    202-324-3000
    OR
    Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse
    800-346-3243
    You may remain anonymous when submitting information to any agency.

    NCIC Number:
    U-515421321

    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case. Source Information:
    Federal Bureau Of Investigation
    Crime Search
    AMW
    NCMA
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    I would say this isn't the same person because Hall had a metal screw above her right eye. I would think that would have been mentioned on the Doe's information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laini
    I would say this isn't the same person because Hall had a metal screw above her right eye. I would think that would have been mentioned on the Doe's information.
    I figured it's worth a shot if not all of the information matches because I thought it might fall out after a while out in the elements. I know it sounds awful but animals are out there. The injuries are similar.

    The girl from Florida was in a horrific accident.No wonder she was addicted to drugs.
    Last edited by ihadcabinfever; 02-06-2007 at 01:11 AM. Reason: add

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    TX - Unidentified Female 52UFTX, League City, 1991 to: FL - Peggy Houser, Tampa, 1981

    http://www.lcpd.com/jane.htm
    UNIDENTIFIED MURDER VICTIM: JANE DOE 86 - 0216
    The Doe Network:
    Case File 52UFTX

    DATE: 3-3-98
    CASE # : 86-073

    HEIGHT: 5’05" – 5’08" APPROX.

    AGE: APPROX. 22 YRS – 30 YRS

    (MOST LIKELY 23 YRS – 26 YRS)


    SEX: FEMALE

    EYES: UNKNOWN

    HAIR: LIGHT, REDDISH-BROWN

    MID SHOULDER LENGTH

    COMPLEXION: UNKNOWN, POSSSIBLY FAIR

    RACE: WHITE

    D.O.B.: UNKNOWN


    I.D. MARKS

    A LARGE GAP BETWEEN FRONT TWO TEETH. UPPER RIGHT NUMBER 1 BACK TOOTH IS IMPACTED AND INVERTED.

    UPPER LEFT BACK TEETH, NUMBERS 12,13, AND 14, SHOW BRIDGED AMALGAMS (FILLINGS).

    LEFT FIFTH RIB AND RIGHT FOURTH AND FIFTH RIB SHOW OLD HEALED FRACTURES.

    THEY ARE CLUSTERED, INDICATING THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE SAME INJURY EVENT, AND ARE SEVERAL YEARS OLD.

    CIRCUMSTANCES

    THE VICTIM WAS A 22 – 30 YEAR OLD (MOST LIKELY 23 – 26 YEARS) WHITE FEMALE. HER DECOMPOSED INTACT BODY WAS FOUND IN A FIELD OFF THE 3000 BLOCK OF CALDER ROAD IN LEAGUE CITY, TEXAS, ON 2-2-86. VICTIM WAS NUDE AND IT IS BELIEVED THAT DEATH OCCURRED BETWEEN SIX WEEKS AND SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO DISCOVERY, 2-2-86.




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    Peggy Sue Houser
    The Doe Network:
    Case File 592DFFL


    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: September 19, 1962
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5"; 115 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
    Marks, Scars, Tattoos: Tattoo of a pink pig on right breast.
    Dentals: She has a gap between her front teeth. She is missing her upper 4, 5, 12 and 13 teeth and her lower 20 and 29 teeth.




    Circumstances of Disappearance
    On June 14, 1981, Peggy Houser was with friends in a Tampa bar called The B-52 near McDill Air Force Base. Over the course of the evening, she got angry with her friends and walked out.
    A few weeks after she disappeared she called her mother, Hattie Oglesbee and asked if she could come home. Oglesbee said yes, but the phone just clicked. Oglesbee believed it had been a local call. She had a feeling Peggy was in Piqua, and went to the old Sohio station on North County Road 25A and took Houser’s picture and showed it to an attendant. Peggy had been there with a man on a motorcycle who took the phone out of her hand and hung it up. The attendant didn’t see which direction they were going, and by the time police responded, Peggy was gone. She has not been seen since.


    Note about teeth
    http://www.dentalindia.com/cavitati.htm#bri
    There are two types of bridges, "fixed" and "removable

    The last picture looks good .
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    YOu are right, it is still worth mentioning in case it fell out in the eliments.

    I think the Jane Doe in FL is a missing woman from CA. I will find her later when I have time. I even emailed LE but nothing happened. I think there is another thread for that Jane Doe in cold cases if you have time to look. But this one is fine, too. I just thought
    you might be interested in that. You definatley are good at finding potential mathces, ihadcabinfever and outofthedark.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laini
    I would say this isn't the same person because Hall had a metal screw above her right eye. I would think that would have been mentioned on the Doe's information.
    Or since she had such massive previous head injuries they (the DR. ) in charge of her care could have removed them after healing to monitor for brain swelling and that would be done with an MRI. I think they do 6 month and then 1 year then 2 year follow ups for any permanent damage.

    Depending on the medical grade of the screw and plate?

    http://www.brainscience.brown.edu/MRF/MR.Risks.pdf


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    Oops. Disregard what I said earlier. With the mentions of Florida, I was thinking we were talking also about a Jane Doe in Florida who also had multiple injuries. We are talking about the two Jane Does in Texas only in this thread, right? Sorry. (I should know better than to try to read and post while getting the kids ready for school - LOL)

    As far as the screw above here eye, Maybe they would take it out, though The skull would still show the head injury and hole from the screw. Hmm. Now ya got me thinking.

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    Both girls had previous injuries. The girl Hall was from Maryland and went to Bike Week in Florida. She's reported planning on being there for 2 weeks and never called home to check in after 4 weeks. Bank Card was used in Florida so they assume she did make it. I am guessing she had a car accident previously .The neck injury alone would have been agonizing pain not to mention her lower back. The compression was probably pressing on a nerve making her leg numb causing a limp.
    I have an old friend that had an accident and she fractured her C 6 in her neck and they went through the front of her neck to put a plate in and attach it to C 5 and C 7. She can no longer turn her head. She lost alot of mobility and her arm is usually numb down to her hand.
    This girl had multiple fractures in her neck. I just wonder when the accident was , like how long ago because some surgical devices did have metal in them. I had to get an MRI and they previuosly saw 2 staples in an x ray from having my gallbladder out and I never know it was there. They had to research it to find out who manufactured it before I could go through the machine.
    Thats what dawned on me and I thought maybe they couldn't keep it in . I dont know.
    My daughter had her pinky finger crushed playing Field Hockey and the hand surgeon had to put 2 metal pins in one all the way down the finger and one across the finger to set it to heal. The Dr. said when the swelling subsided it would have eventually fallen out . Painful!
    So I wonder if they ever thought these two could be the same people?

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    http://www.lcpd.com/calderposter.pdf

    This is a full page picture of the Janet Doe
    and a picture of Peggy Sue Houser here

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/592dffl.html

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    It seems to say that the Jane Doe has fillings in the #12-13 teeth, while Peggy Sue was missing those teeth. I'm taking the "fillings" in Jane Doe's listing to mean fillings for cavities.

    Kelly

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihadcabinfever
    Laini
    Both girls had previous injuries. The girl Hall was from Maryland and went to Bike Week in Florida. She's reported planning on being there for 2 weeks and never called home to check in after 4 weeks. Bank Card was used in Florida so they assume she did make it. I am guessing she had a car accident previously .The neck injury alone would have been agonizing pain not to mention her lower back. The compression was probably pressing on a nerve making her leg numb causing a limp.
    I have an old friend that had an accident and she fractured her C 6 in her neck and they went through the front of her neck to put a plate in and attach it to C 5 and C 7. She can no longer turn her head. She lost alot of mobility and her arm is usually numb down to her hand.
    This girl had multiple fractures in her neck. I just wonder when the accident was , like how long ago because some surgical devices did have metal in them. I had to get an MRI and they previuosly saw 2 staples in an x ray from having my gallbladder out and I never know it was there. They had to research it to find out who manufactured it before I could go through the machine.
    Thats what dawned on me and I thought maybe they couldn't keep it in . I dont know.
    My daughter had her pinky finger crushed playing Field Hockey and the hand surgeon had to put 2 metal pins in one all the way down the finger and one across the finger to set it to heal. The Dr. said when the swelling subsided it would have eventually fallen out . Painful!
    So I wonder if they ever thought these two could be the same people?
    You may be right and it is the same! Maybe the "metal screw" above her eye was really a tiny screw that would be "absorbed" or fall out, and there wouldn't be a gapping hole left as I had invisioned. But maybe just a small well healed hole was left, and it wasn't major compared to the other injuries on Jane Doe's exam. You could send the potential match to doenetwork and see what they think.

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