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    Quote Originally Posted by PattyCake View Post


    Oh I completely forgot there was a movie. Can you rent something like that?
    I never even knew there was a movie.
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!


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    from the soc.culture.filipino link:

    Part of the delay in the trial was to allow the RCMP to
    conclude a special investigation. Mounted police detectives
    traveled to Japan and tried to procure Bernardo's `home' snuff
    videos. The video's were evidently circulating in the Japanese
    sex underground. Bernardo's sex crimes were a money making
    venture. This would account for his high living standards while
    unemployed.


    i never read about any of this in the books i read either, jane. no japan. no sold snuff tapes. bernardo smuggled large amounts of cigarettes from the US into Canada and sold them locally. apparently, he made good money doing this. additionally, leslie was not dismembered while alive.


    i may have missed a few things so if others who have read the legit books care to read that link and add to this list, it might be helpful to our members who want to know the truth. if you choose to assist, thanks


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    Family Video (if u have any by you) and Netflix carries the movie Karla. I did see it. It shows much that was in one of the books from what I remember. It is worth seeing.

    I read two books about Karla and Paul. I did think Lethal Marriage was a good starting point on learning about Paul and Karla. This book by Nick Porn gives a good overview about the sicko's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    hi WR ... no i haven't. after reading all those books -and i just inquired about another @ the library: "deadly innocence"... they are getting it for me from a nearby county- i don't think it's necessary. i believe i read waay more then a movie could ever portray... plus, PB and KH both look so evil naturally, i don't think any actor would do them justice. if you see it, let me know what you think though...
    If you don't get it at the library let me know...I have a copy I can send to you...I want it back though!!!!!!!!!!


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    Karla

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    I've seen it at Blockbuster, but it's always rented out. They only have one copy.
    Quote Originally Posted by PattyCake View Post


    Oh I completely forgot there was a movie. Can you rent something like that?
    The movie can be watched online for free here -- I haven't watched it yet, but thought I'd post a link for anyone who is interested. :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    from the soc.culture.filipino link:

    Part of the delay in the trial was to allow the RCMP to
    conclude a special investigation. Mounted police detectives
    traveled to Japan and tried to procure Bernardo's `home' snuff
    videos. The video's were evidently circulating in the Japanese
    sex underground. Bernardo's sex crimes were a money making
    venture. This would account for his high living standards while
    unemployed.


    i never read about any of this in the books i read either, jane. no japan. no sold snuff tapes. bernardo smuggled large amounts of cigarettes from the US into Canada and sold them locally. apparently, he made good money doing this. additionally, leslie was not dismembered while alive.


    i may have missed a few things so if others who have read the legit books care to read that link and add to this list, it might be helpful to our members who want to know the truth. if you choose to assist, thanks
    Thanks Redhead

    So whilst they were evil they were not evil extrodanire then ? why do people add to it ?
    wasnt their crime heinous enough ? that ppl had to make up more ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneInOz View Post
    Thanks Redhead

    So whilst they were evil they were not evil extrodanire then ? why do people add to it ?
    wasnt their crime heinous enough ? that ppl had to make up more ?
    I think there's something somewhat unique about the Bernardo/Homolka case-- from what I understand a lot of details and specifics have never been officially released or confirmed. The publication ban was initially imposed to ensure Bernardo had a fair trial, but I've read that the Crown later acknowledged that the ban and attendant limitations on publicity were also to protect the victims' families. There's also some conspiracy theory that evidence and details have continued to be suppressed because the Crown gave Karla Homolka such a "sweetheart deal" and to reveal the stark realities of these sadistic team killings would cast a very poor light on the Canadian justice system.

    For example, the official files on Karla Homolka reveal that she has never been diagnosed as a sadist or a psychopath and that she should not be considered a dangerous person. Most experts and observers would dispute these official findings.

    I've read about the hair and fingernails and other brutal acts in a few places (and, for the record internet and usenet groups were the most accurate places to get the news on this case before the publication ban was lifted). I don't know exactly what's true and what's not-- but I do believe there's a lot of variability out there concerning the details. And I don't know that anyone but Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo will ever know the true details of their crimes. I don't put much past them, but, as with all things -- we just read whatever info is out there and take it with a grain of salt.


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    Unbelievable, that she is able to have a normal life at all.

    Something is wrong with this picture!


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    I went back and asked some legal buds in Canada what they thought of the rumors posted about this story. They said the publication ban is lifted once the case has a resolution. They heard mild rumors about a couple of torn finger nails, Kristens hair all being chopped off but nothing like the violence listed here.

    I'm not discounting the information at all, please understand that.

    I am speculating because there were so many people that attended this trial, I feel it would be common knowledge if this is what Karla did to the girls. They would have been able to (as in Bernardo) use a 'dangerous offender' status while she was still in jail should the evidence have proved to be that Karla tortured the girls, so says my lawyer buds. Essentially keeping her in jail indefinitely. It would be difficult but if the evidence is there that Karla specifically tortured these girls on video, the chances of winning dangerous offender status may have succeeded.
    Only my opinion, no one else need agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    from the soc.culture.filipino link:

    Part of the delay in the trial was to allow the RCMP to
    conclude a special investigation. Mounted police detectives
    traveled to Japan and tried to procure Bernardo's `home' snuff
    videos. The video's were evidently circulating in the Japanese
    sex underground. Bernardo's sex crimes were a money making
    venture. This would account for his high living standards while
    unemployed.


    i never read about any of this in the books i read either, jane. no japan. no sold snuff tapes. bernardo smuggled large amounts of cigarettes from the US into Canada and sold them locally. apparently, he made good money doing this. additionally, leslie was not dismembered while alive.


    i may have missed a few things so if others who have read the legit books care to read that link and add to this list, it might be helpful to our members who want to know the truth. if you choose to assist, thanks
    There are no snuff videos from Bernardo's crimes. This I can say is a false rumor. The tapes have NEVER reached the public. Bernardo's lawyer retrieved the tapes, watched them, locked them up, quit the case, obtained legal advice of his own and then turned them over to Paul's new lawyer.
    Only my opinion, no one else need agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PattyCake View Post
    I went back and asked some legal buds in Canada what they thought of the rumors posted about this story. They said the publication ban is lifted once the case has a resolution. They heard mild rumors about a couple of torn finger nails, Kristens hair all being chopped off but nothing like the violence listed here.

    I'm not discounting the information at all, please understand that.

    I am speculating because there were so many people that attended this trial, I feel it would be common knowledge if this is what Karla did to the girls. They would have been able to (as in Bernardo) use a 'dangerous offender' status while she was still in jail should the evidence have proved to be that Karla tortured the girls, so says my lawyer buds. Essentially keeping her in jail indefinitely. It would be difficult but if the evidence is there that Karla specifically tortured these girls on video, the chances of winning dangerous offender status may have succeeded.
    I've read that during the trial, the Court played most of the tapes as audio-only-- so that the majority of the video footage was never seen during the proceedings. Do you know if this is true?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nancy botwin View Post
    I've read that during the trial, the Court played most of the tapes as audio-only-- so that the majority of the video footage was never seen during the proceedings. Do you know if this is true?
    That's what I've read as well, yes. I believe the jury, judge, lawyers & bernardo viewed the tapes, the TV was turned away from the rest of the crowd.

    It could be that this occured, the violence spoken about here and we may never know. Quite frankly, I really never want to know the truth.
    Only my opinion, no one else need agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nancy botwin View Post
    I think there's something somewhat unique about the Bernardo/Homolka case-- from what I understand a lot of details and specifics have never been officially released or confirmed. The publication ban was initially imposed to ensure Bernardo had a fair trial, but I've read that the Crown later acknowledged that the ban and attendant limitations on publicity were also to protect the victims' families. There's also some conspiracy theory that evidence and details have continued to be suppressed because the Crown gave Karla Homolka such a "sweetheart deal" and to reveal the stark realities of these sadistic team killings would cast a very poor light on the Canadian justice system.

    For example, the official files on Karla Homolka reveal that she has never been diagnosed as a sadist or a psychopath and that she should not be considered a dangerous person. Most experts and observers would dispute these official findings.

    I've read about the hair and fingernails and other brutal acts in a few places (and, for the record internet and usenet groups were the most accurate places to get the news on this case before the publication ban was lifted). I don't know exactly what's true and what's not-- but I do believe there's a lot of variability out there concerning the details. And I don't know that anyone but Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo will ever know the true details of their crimes. I don't put much past them, but, as with all things -- we just read whatever info is out there and take it with a grain of salt.

    Thanks Nancy and Patty

    Id ont know that I really want to know either. But we might as well assume the worst

    Why Karla is out I will never understand

    I had a quick look at the link u supplied and from how I see it potrayed she was the victim ? as in thats how they were trying to potray it

    do you think that is why she got off so lightly ?
    And do you think she was a victim to him in anyway shape or form?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PattyCake View Post
    That's what I've read as well, yes. I believe the jury, judge, lawyers & bernardo viewed the tapes, the TV was turned away from the rest of the crowd.

    It could be that this occured, the violence spoken about here and we may never know. Quite frankly, I really never want to know the truth.

    Thanks for answering-- I haven't read a ton about this case for similar reasons. It's just too upsetting. Ordinarily, I like to know everything I can about something that interests me, but after I read about what they did to Karla's sister, I couldn't deal. Too horrid.


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    Ok im watching this...

    they are potraying it as Karla being the victim of Paul..

    that she was obsessed with him, to keep him interested in her

    IS that how it went down or is this a pro Karla vid ?


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