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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom
    Narla, several times in the letters she says that she feels guilt and remorse and shame - it's just a matter of whether you believe her or not, but she does say it. If you believe some of the things she says in the letters, then you believe that she has remorse. Those letters are like anything else - you will probably find in them what you are looking for.

    I can't hold what she does not mention (the seriousness of her crime) against her because it's only eleven or so letters - I imagine she has discussed the nature of her crimes with many people - we are just not privy to those discussions.

    As far as her being concerned about her own welfare - of course she is - we all are. Even those of us who commit the most awful crimes are still concerned for ourselves while we are alive. It's only human. I - unlike many others - do not feel like Karla ceased to be human when she committed these crimes. I do not expect committed criminals to stop being concerned with themselves. (ie - I do not expect humans to stop acting like humans)

    Again - rightly or wrongly - when I read of a crime like this, my heart aches equally for the victims and the perpatrators. I cannot imagine the darkness a human must live in that would allow them to do the things that Karla did. It is a darkness that I wouldn't wish on anybody. I can't in good consciousness add to that darkness by hating her. That's not the way my brain or my heart works.

    I do understand why people feel like they hate her. I have no interest in defending Karla's prior actions or trying to make people think the way I do. I'm just offering my perspective, however skewed it may be.
    Well, you're right there, humans have always killed other humans, but.....it still doesn't make it right.

    I don't hate her personally , I dont know her, but I most certainly hate the things she did and I dont think she deserves a second chance at life, she has had enough chances- she could have stopped with her sister, but she went on to do it again and again..

    I don't mean to be argumentative South , but it seems it would be easy to say your heart aches equally for the victim and the perpatrator when it wasn't your kids that lives were taken and died so tragically, just think how the parents of those kids feel- to see her out enjoying life getting married having kids, everything their kids will never get to do...

    She should have been locked up and the key thrown away for her crimes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by narlacat
    Well, you're right there, humans have always killed other humans, but.....it still doesn't make it right.

    I don't hate her personally , I dont know her, but I most certainly hate the things she did and I dont think she deserves a second chance at life, she has had enough chances- she could have stopped with her sister, but she went on to do it again and again..

    I don't mean to be argumentative South , but it seems it would be easy to say your heart aches equally for the victim and the perpatrator when it wasn't your kids that lives were taken and died so tragically, just think how the parents of those kids feel- to see her out enjoying life getting married having kids, everything their kids will never get to do...

    She should have been locked up and the key thrown away for her crimes.
    My cousin was murdered, Narla, and my heart ached equally for him (we were very close) and for his murderers, so I have some personal experience with violence and loss. It hasn't changed my perspective.
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!


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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom
    My cousin was murdered, Narla, and my heart ached equally for him (we were very close) and for his murderers, so I have some personal experience with violence and loss. It hasn't changed my perspective.
    Ok South, no worries but with all due respect, your cousin is not your kids.
    I really do think you may feel differently about people like Holmolka if it were your kids she took out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by narlacat
    Ok South, no worries but with all due respect, your cousin is not your kids.
    I really do think you may feel differently about people like Holmolka if it were your kids she took out.
    No worries, Narla. That seems to be the standard party line people use when I voice these opinions.

    I've watched my aunt and my grandmother bury sons and come to peace with the people and the forces who put their children into graves, so I don't think my observations are hastily-considered or flippant. I know the truths that those women in my family arrived at, and I suspect I would arrive at the same place should such a burden become mine.

    As long as I continue to read stories of parents who are able to forgive people who harm their children, I will hold out hope that such a path could be mine should I ever walk in those shoes.
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!


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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom
    No worries, Narla. That seems to be the standard party line people use when I voice these opinions.

    I've watched my aunt and my grandmother bury sons and come to peace with the people and the forces who put their children into graves, so I don't think my observations are hastily-considered or flippant. I know the truths that those women in my family arrived at, and I suspect I would arrive at the same place should such a burden become mine.

    As long as I continue to read stories of parents who are able to forgive people who harm their children, I will hold out hope that such a path could be mine should I ever walk in those shoes.
    You are way ahead of me South

    Learning to forgive is a toughie and I'm only in the beginning stages, there is no way no how I could forgive some one something like what Holmolka did.
    But I did forgive a friend the other week for *****ing behind my back LOL....and I tell ya it took a good few weeks to arrive at that point!


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    Quote Originally Posted by narlacat
    You are way ahead of me South

    Learning to forgive is a toughie and I'm only in the beginning stages, there is no way no how I could forgive some one something like what Holmolka did.
    But I did forgive a friend the other week for *****ing behind my back LOL....and I tell ya it took a good few weeks to arrive at that point!
    You are so funny! Sometimes it is easier to forgive the "big" things than the "little" ones... love ya

    ETA - I am ahead of noone, Narla - particularly not you!
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!


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    Sounds like it is true....the look in her eyes in the picture is bone-chilling.

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...a_homolka.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom
    You are so funny! Sometimes it is easier to forgive the "big" things than the "little" ones... love ya

    ETA - I am ahead of noone, Narla - particularly not you!
    You are too kind South


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    You know the problem here is that a sociopath cannot ever change. Karla is despicable. I do not think the public should have ever been banned from those tapes. I know the victims families couldn't endure the pain, but perhaps everyone could REALLY know how much Karla played in that twisted, murderous spree. I believe she was all for offering up young girls to Paul without conscience or hesitation and the murders were just something that had to be done. Her sister was an accident, but without remorse she covered it up and after her sister's death even dressed in her clothes to turn Paul on and have sex.

    She is an empty soul. That will never change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeana (DP)
    Oh, I didn't know that. She must be a very, very strong woman.
    I think Mrs. Homolka clings to the belief that Karla was Paul's victim. I think it's the only way she could deal with what happened to Tammy. That whole family is strange anyway.


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    Karla is flat out sick! This girl did horrendous things with paul, they should be in cells next to each other. She led her own sister to the slaughter and helped in the sex acts, what a freaking sicko! She has cried boo hoo poor me too long. She was a willing participant in all that paul did. She lured Kristin French into the car and video taped what paul did to her and he taped what she did. This is one sick person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cami
    I think Mrs. Homolka clings to the belief that Karla was Paul's victim. I think it's the only way she could deal with what happened to Tammy. That whole family is strange anyway.
    I think Karla also clings to the belief that she was Paul's victim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishMist
    I think Karla also clings to the belief that she was Paul's victim.
    Oh she totally does.


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    Quote Originally Posted by michelle
    Karla is flat out sick! This girl did horrendous things with paul, they should be in cells next to each other. She led her own sister to the slaughter and helped in the sex acts, what a freaking sicko! She has cried boo hoo poor me too long. She was a willing participant in all that paul did. She lured Kristin French into the car and video taped what paul did to her and he taped what she did. This is one sick person.
    Im with you Michelle.....she is just flat out evil and doesnt deserve to see the light of day .....much less out getting pregnant and attempting a normal life


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    Quote Originally Posted by dingo
    Im with you Michelle.....she is just flat out evil and doesnt deserve to see the light of day .....much less out getting pregnant and attempting a normal life
    Tell me about it, it is the worst thing I have seen. Those girls they killed were humiliated in ways that I have never heard of! I mean they were brutally raped, beat, kicked and puched all for their sick appetites. It truly sickens me that someone like her is walking free. I am really shocked that "karma" has not caught up with her yet. Her day will come, here in this life or the next.


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