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    Michelle Young. Murdered Pregnant Mom, NC Part 12

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    RAISINCHARLIE:

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    Hi RaisinCharlie,

    Been there, done that. More spin.

    If you go by a similar moniker there, I responded to yours.

    Cheers!


    I saw you ! I get the feeling this is JTF re-incarnated with a different tone. Until such person can actually answer a straight question with a straight answer this will remain my opinion.

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    CRIMEQ:

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    I saw you ! I get the feeling this is JTF re-incarnated with a different tone. Until such person can actually answer a straight question with a straight answer this will remain my opinion.

    I'll be watching! Gojo does seem to have warmth in his tone, while JTF seemed angrier and taunting. I'm not sure that big a change could occur in posting style, but stranger things have happened! And the information Gojo is delivering seems straight-forward, while JTF's obviously was not, but was clouded in riddles.

    Another newbie, Thr33-something, seems reincarnated. One of the first posts referred specificially to Coldwater and shutdowns of the thread because of going O/T. I'll be watching that style, too, to see if it rings a bell!

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    HAPPY2BN10EC:

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    Hi Happy! I think this might have been right after the murder happened and the media checked out the daycare to see if Cassidy was scheduled to be there that Friday. At that point everybody was wondering if Michelle was schedule for work that day as well. So, Cassidy would not have been there. Just guessing about this.

    We've been told (rumor) that JY and Cassidy are staying with his sister in Brevard. Nothing more.


    Thanks, Jilly. I was a little bumfuzzled about that...

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    HAPPY2BN10EC:

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    Good points and I agree with you earlier, for some reason LE is not seeking the public's assistance on this. Maybe they've got what they need - a video from the hotel showing him arriving, leaving (and returning). If they don't have this surely they would be requesting assistance. Then again they haven't even named him as a suspect so maybe this has something to do with it. I'd like to know at what point one changes from POI to suspect.

    I have no sympathy for JY either. You said it best.


    I tend to think they have what they need - not once have I heard them asking the public for ANYTHING. Reminds me of the cops in CA asking for anyone who had possibly seen Scott P that day in his truck hauling the boat to come forward so they could verify his alibi. Which, of course, his alibi was what bit him in the end anyway - putting himself where the body washed up. But anyway...horse of a different color.

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    SCANDI:

    Velly Intellesting. I think we have the SF and JY in two of those posters. Now in come the forces for backup. LOL We could be in for an onslought. Keep those good instincts zoned in. I love it!

    And now I'm not getting a bit of work done
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    JILLY:

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    I tend to think they have what they need - not once have I heard them asking the public for ANYTHING. Reminds me of the cops in CA asking for anyone who had possibly seen Scott P that day in his truck hauling the boat to come forward so they could verify his alibi. Which, of course, his alibi was what bit him in the end anyway - putting himself where the body washed up. But anyway...horse of a different color.


    Too many similarities Happy - Laci and Michelle. It's eerie.

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    RAISINCHARLIE:

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    I'll be watching! Gojo does seem to have warmth in his tone, while JTF seemed angrier and taunting. I'm not sure that big a change could occur in posting style, but stranger things have happened! And the information Gojo is delivering seems straight-forward, while JTF's obviously was not, but was clouded in riddles.

    Another newbie, Thr33-something, seems reincarnated. One of the first posts referred specificially to Coldwater and shutdowns of the thread because of going O/T. I'll be watching that style, too, to see if it rings a bell!


    Crimeq,

    You need to excuse me but until these folks present something of substance I will continue to doubt them. While gojo seemed straight forward it ended the same - whatever happened was someone else's fault. In this case LE messed the entire family over and forced JY to hide in the house with a couple of his buddies (what were they doing at Meredith's house?) and get a lawyer. Then gojo disappears just as previous posters. No real questions answered only talk about what they choose and nothing verifiable.

    I don't buy it nor will I buy it, I have been around LE too long and have seen with my own eyes how things of a sensitive nature are handled - this presentation IMO was a boat load of garbage. Granted I don't know how WCSO handles things - but I have very serious doubts it was handled in the fashion presented by the poster especially when there is a direct quote from LE about what was said. JMo of course and I have been wrong before. Someone here will slap some sense into me I am thankfully.
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    SAMIYA:

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    Crimeq,

    You need to excuse me but until these folks present something of substance I will continue to doubt them. While gojo seemed straight forward it ended the same - whatever happened was someone else's fault. In this case LE messed the entire family over and forced JY to hide in the house with a couple of his buddies (what were they doing at Meredith's house?) and get a lawyer. Then gojo disappears just as previous posters. No real questions answered only talk about what they choose and nothing verifiable.

    I don't buy it nor will I buy it, I have been around LE too long and have seen with my own eyes how things of a sensitive nature are handled - this presentation IMO was a boat load of garbage. Granted I don't know how WCSO handles things - but I have very serious doubts it was handled in the fashion presented by the poster especially when there is a direct quote from LE about what was said. JMo of course and I have been wrong before. Someone here will slap some sense into me I am thankfully.


    Don't look at me to slap any sense into ya honey, lmao

    Now if we go by GoJo,

    WHO invited Jason's FRIENDS over to MEREDITH'S house?

    "Hey bud's, me missus was murdered. Meet me at her sister's house"

    ?????????????

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    Sami,

    You crack me up - who invited Jys buddies to Meredith's house to wait for JY to return ? Too funny- I wonder if this fellow can do a number 2 by himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie
    Sami,

    You crack me up - who invited Jys buddies to Meredith's house to wait for JY to return ? Too funny- I wonder if this fellow can do a number 2 by himself.
    I was cheerfully reading along with gojo until I saw the buddies with JY in MF's house and just cracked up. Must've been the welcoming committee

    lmao@number2! I thought I was the only person who spoke old time slang!

    I'm off for a dogs eye and dead horse Lunch time here brb

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    Crack me up you guys!~ Way too funny.

    Sami, color me dense, but I read through those posts so fast over there I missed the buddies with JY at MF's house. Did you mean the other new seemingly buddies that followed Gojo onto the forum?

    I don't want to lose one little tidbit as it could mess up my sleuthing. LOLOLOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandi
    Crack me up you guys!~ Way too funny.

    Sami, color me dense, but I read through those posts so fast over there I missed the buddies with JY at MF's house. Did you mean the other new seemingly buddies that followed Gojo onto the forum?

    I don't want to lose one little tidbit as it could mess up my sleuthing. LOLOLOL
    Not to step on Ms. Sami's little toes but it was gojo who said some of JYs buddies were waiting for him at Meredith's house. That must have been interesting sitting there with all those bad boy cops who were just faunching at the bit to rough up JYs Mom.

    I wonder why JY hid in the house with his buddies while the cops were roughing up his Mom outside ?

    I'm sorry Scandi, but that liitle tale was....I can't say it here
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    I posted this on the old thread, not seeing the new one!

    I have always thought that JTF's posts could be two different people...there is underlying bitterness about JY's plight, no sympathy really for the Fishers and even the victim...one is agressive and male but immature...the other expresses more angst over things a female would but is also immature...just not as aggresive...I don't know but I don't care to respond to that person/persons and have no reception for the line of trash (bs is merely a digsestive byproduct of bovines so I can't even beschmirch bs and can only say trash) that it/he/she/they are putting out to 'the curb'...we ain't no curb and we are much smarter than that!

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    Nite to all, I am baking some brownies for our smelling pleasure ... beaming them to you all w/plenty of cold milk!

    Thks. for the jelly beans!

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    Nite Dominique ;} See you tomorrow. MmmmmmI can smell the brownies all the way over here. LOL

    Barney said . .Originally Posted by Barney Fife
    "That immature male/female sounds very much like Rhett Fussell.....male, but seems to be very in touch with his feminine side...

    I laughed at that, but it could be true. That means he's posting from my home town, not too far away from me, right? If I were a bad girl I'd go wag my fingers at him thru his window and watch him jump out of his skin. Nah, I'd never do that, but he'd sure know we're on to him.

    I think this could be a good call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by scandi
    Nite Dominique ;} See you tomorrow. MmmmmmI can smell the brownies all the way over here. LOL

    Barney said . .Originally Posted by Barney Fife
    "That immature male/female sounds very much like Rhett Fussell.....male, but seems to be very in touch with his feminine side...

    I laughed at that, but it could be true. That means he's posting from my home town, not too far away from me, right? If I were a bad girl I'd go wag my fingers at him thru his window and watch him jump out of his skin. Nah, I'd never do that, but he'd sure know we're on to him.

    I think this could be a good call.
    I'll buy you a nice little battery powered neon sign mounted on a cap that says CTV if you'll go do it ! Too funny but for some reason I have this vision of you just marching right on over there like this

    On a serious note, what do you think the odds are that Meredith was wired when JY showed up at her house - JY was hiding in there after all while his Mum was toughing it out with the cops ? Maybe at the funeral as well since she was fliting over to the JY side ?
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    Well I sure am glad I went over to court tv tonight. I can now be certain that in fact Jy is not guilty. A kind poster from Brevard apparently says so......

    Too bad we wasted our time on all of those theories about JY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Fife

    "That immature male/female sounds very much like Rhett Fussell.....male, but seems to be very in touch with his feminine side...
    Barney,

    Do you know Rhett Fussell?

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    Hmmmm, Interesting thought Charlie about the possibility of LE wiring Meredith up.

    Random thoughts:

    * LE probably arrived at Young home around 1:45 or 2.
    * They would take M and Cassidy aside and probably transport thenm down to hdqtrs, right, to take a statement and have Cassidy processed and checked due to the blood on her.
    * Around 2 Harrison calls Mrs Young to give her the news about Michelle.
    * Meanwhile MF would be allowed to call her mother.
    * Probably 4 when this is finished.

    Meanwhile LE talking in conference w/ Harrison back at hdqtrs. They will allow MF to take Cassidy back to her residence. They are back home by 4:30 - 5 and Cassidy and MF take a shower and then Cassidy gets a bubble bath and lays down cause she's tired. This givees MF a chance to talk to her mom again who is going to head down to Raleigh, and MF then calls several of MY's friends to tell them the news.

    * Around 7-8 Harrison and his deputy knock on MF's door and come in to talk. They are about to call Mrs Young back and get a time scenario about TOArrival. They call from MF's living room and discover the Youngs are on their way and ask if JY is with them. He is. They tell them Cassidy is at MF's home and they can pick her up there. They figure the ETA of Young family party. Harrison tells MF to keep her phone open they will be in touch to give her plan for arrival of Youngs.

    * Deputy stationed in car at a crucial point to watch for any action at MF residence, in view of it but not easily seen by anyone driving as it is darkl


    Well, that leaves plenty of time for a scheme. They know JY is en route and approx time of arrival.

    * #1 part of plan to snag SUV. Warrant served at 4am, can't remember what time they detained car and filed for warrant - was it 3am? It takes 5 hours to drive from Brevard. If they left around 9 they would make it around 3am, and reservations at a residence hotel for Youngs has been made by them already. So car detained at 3am ?, everyone leaves in 2nd car to go to hotel.

    I see a problem here. Gojo stated LE called and the Youngs were on their way and LE asked if JY was with them, they said yes. If that is a 5+ hour trip and they arrived in Raleigh around 3am {off I'm sure ;}, the Sheriff would have to have called after 9pm to catch them driving on the road. Youngs had learned about the killing at approx 3 that afternoon, or a bit before, as JY arrived at P's home around 3 and P's already had the news. So I would think the
    Sheriff would expect a quick turn around for the Young family to be on the road within the hour or so. If he waited to call the Youngs till 9, they might be right outside of Raleigh.

    The warrant on the SUV was ordered about 12 hours+ after her body was discovered. Guess the time has some problems here as we don't have an arrival time. We need to know what time the Youngs arrived in town. And at what time did LE actually detain the car. Can we find that out? A public record of it?

    So, would Harrison in conference with his top dog and the the LE admin. decide it was wise to wire up MF? Possibly. I'm just worried they were so wrapped up in getting everything done that they had to do after a murder like this that they didn't even think about it. ;{

    This is pretty dumb, so I give you the right to laugh all you want!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie
    I'll buy you a nice little battery powered neon sign mounted on a cap that says CTV if you'll go do it ! Too funny but for some reason I have this vision of you just marching right on over there like this

    On a serious note, what do you think the odds are that Meredith was wired when JY showed up at her house - JY was hiding in there after all while his Mum was toughing it out with the cops ? Maybe at the funeral as well since she was fliting over to the JY side ?
    Charlie, If it is true that Meredith and Michelle were not really close sisters, it could be that Meredith felt closer as a friend to Jy than to her sister. I think they had very different type personalities. So as family by marriage, I can see Meredith going over to talk to JY's family off and on before and after the funeral service. Even if her and her mom had already taken Cassidy's words to heart about Daddy did it, Meredith would still go stay hi to JY's sisters and mom and dad whom she had known for, well, 3 years anyway. IMHO

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