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    I think it is worse today but things were not talked about then. Heck my great great grandpa was one of the worst of them. His wife died and his older daughter at the age of 9 took on all the housework and he required her for sexual abuse too. She became pregnant and had the baby at home. He delivered it with her and two days later he took the baby out and she never saw it again, She was sure it was murdered and buried. But back then you didnt say anything women were not listened to back then and definitely not a little kid.

    Thankfully my great grandma stopped the abuse with her and did a 360 degree turn and made a point of always being clothed and almost making nudity into an unspeakable thing that was never done. It passed down throughout my grandpa and my mom. When I was little my barbies and doll always had to have their clothes on and be dressed. Im not like that myself but Im glad that she went that away instead of abusing her own children.

    kgeaux-As a christian myself also Im not sure if it is the end of times. As that has been believed for centuries that the end was almost here. Im almost scared to know just how bad it is going to get.


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    i guess i'm on the fence with this. in some ways it seems worse, but in other ways.. in the old days, infantacide was a common thing. in ancient times babies were often just abandoned to die on hillsides. things were not reported to the police and definitely not public knowledge. in more recent times- even well into the 20th century.. beating a kid, child rape and molestation were not considered abuse- so not only was a lot of stuff not talked about or reported, but it was not even considered a crime.
    i just don't want peole to think that infantacide or killing children is a new thing. as for any increase in numbers-- there is just more crime overall- because of the ever-exploding population, governments being overwhelmed and corrupt, lack of funds, families falling apart, stress, lack of mental health care, too much idle time/lack of meaningful work, technology, pornography, & of course- drugs & crime. add on top of that more & more cases being reported- and it seems like a while lot more-- and of course it IS a whole lot more, because, the world population is growing by about 75 million people PER YEAR... or about 5 people per second. so of course there's going to be more cases of everything (including infanticide). but is the situation really getting worse, percentage-wise? once again, all problems come back to one thing--- overpopulation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by barb0301
    I totally agree with you White Rain. I think things are much worse. Yes, we have far more communication today, so we hear more of it. But we also have far more tolerant views towards violence, sex, etc. We see it on the news, in the theaters, on the DVD's, on our game stations, in the papers, on the billboards, everywhere we look. And our kids are flooded with it. So yes, I think it has gotten much worse. I don't think it's going to get better any time soon either.
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    I think these two are related. What we hear about as having been done is now in the realm of the possible. Think pre and post columbine. The more of it we hear the more likely it becomes. In this sense the flood of news is enabling further erosion of our limits. How to fight the continued downward spiral without limiting access to the news of the world is my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Rain
    He was taken to a hospital but died.


    I was hoping he was dead before they went FOUR miles...


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    I just read a book on Albert Fish, who was executed in 1934 for the murder of 10-year-old Grace Budd. He is believed to have murdered many more children.

    He told his shrink that he usually raped and killed black children, because the police ignored their parents when they reported kids missing. And in fact, he confessed to a number of killings that had never even been investigated by the police or covered in the newspapers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reb
    i guess i'm on the fence with this. in some ways it seems worse, but in other ways.. in the old days, infantacide was a common thing. in ancient times babies were often just abandoned to die on hillsides. things were not reported to the police and definitely not public knowledge. in more recent times- even well into the 20th century.. beating a kid, child rape and molestation were not considered abuse- so not only was a lot of stuff not talked about or reported, but it was not even considered a crime.
    i just don't want peole to think that infantacide or killing children is a new thing. as for any increase in numbers-- there is just more crime overall- because of the ever-exploding population, governments being overwhelmed and corrupt, lack of funds, families falling apart, stress, lack of mental health care, too much idle time/lack of meaningful work, technology, pornography, & of course- drugs & crime. add on top of that more & more cases being reported- and it seems like a while lot more-- and of course it IS a whole lot more, because, the world population is growing by about 75 million people PER YEAR... or about 5 people per second. so of course there's going to be more cases of everything (including infanticide). but is the situation really getting worse, percentage-wise? once again, all problems come back to one thing--- overpopulation.
    I guess I am in the minority on this thread, but I think things are good and getting better every day. Children certainly have more rights today and people seem more concerned with how things affect our children than they did when I was a child. Molestation and abuse are not covered up nearly the way they used to be. We are more open and we are more aware.

    I am happy at the world my young sons will inherit. There is so much beauty and light here - no matter what the media wants to tell me!
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!


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    beauty and light? i'm glad you're feeling positive about it, but wow-- what universe do you live in?!


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    [QUOTE=reb]i just don't want peole to think that infantacide or killing children is a new thing. QUOTE]

    I can't imagine that anyone would think that.


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    you'd be surprised, WR. a lot of people don't know much at all about history.


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    I guess so. Sometimes I wish I didn't know all this horror existed.


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    me neither. geez, maybe it's better NOT to know any history, or any of the present for that matter. LOL. no wonder everyone's so into knowing what britney or paris was wearing, or who they are screwing, etc. who wants to hear all this stuff all the time? oops- i guess we do. are we masochists or something....?


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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom
    I guess I am in the minority on this thread, but I think things are good and getting better every day. Children certainly have more rights today and people seem more concerned with how things affect our children than they did when I was a child. Molestation and abuse are not covered up nearly the way they used to be. We are more open and we are more aware.

    I am happy at the world my young sons will inherit. There is so much beauty and light here - no matter what the media wants to tell me!
    Southcitymom-you and I must live in the same universe. I think this is a great time to be a kid and a parent and I think the world is pretty good overall. There's always bad people in the world doing bad things but most of the people I see around me are good people doing their best to raise good kids. For every terrible parenting story you read on hear there's 1,000 parents raising their kids right and providing loving, caring, homes.

    Becca


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    Quote Originally Posted by reb
    beauty and light? i'm glad you're feeling positive about it, but wow-- what universe do you live in?!
    The same one you do, I suspect - that's how we ended up on the same website!
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!


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    Quote Originally Posted by beakiebean
    Southcitymom-you and I must live in the same universe. I think this is a great time to be a kid and a parent and I think the world is pretty good overall. There's always bad people in the world doing bad things but most of the people I see around me are good people doing their best to raise good kids. For every terrible parenting story you read on hear there's 1,000 parents raising their kids right and providing loving, caring, homes.

    Becca
    Thank goodness, Becca. I know we are not the only two. It's easy to get bogged down in the negative - especially if you hang out on a board like this - but I am continually amazed with what I see from my fellow human beings.
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!


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    arrests made:

    The police say that two youngsters, Diego da Silva, 18, and E. (a minor), have confessed the crime telling details of what they've done and showing very little emotion. They have also implicated two other youths.

    more:
    http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/7885/54/


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