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    Michelle Young. Murdered Pregnant Mom, NC Part 13

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    GRRRRRRRRRRRR,


    I even checked first, the number was about 150 less than the usual "turn-over".

    All I can say is that y'all missed it tonight....Oh well, too late, can't remember, but something in there about RC and his foxes.

    Sami, IF you get a chance...would you explain to me all the holes in my theory.



    WHAT IF, someone were to take a shower, but they were a tad messy, like MY male. Getting something "DRY"- really DRY, IMO, is beyond the "Y" chromosome.

    Later, a little girl with semi-dried blood on her little feet should traipses through that same room.

    Would there be a difference in what the CSIs saw?

    Thanks Samiya



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    Quote Originally Posted by 5bigfish5
    GRRRRRRRRRRRR,


    I even checked first, the number was about 150 less than the usual "turn-over".

    All I can say is that y'all missed it tonight....Oh well, too late, can't remember, but something in there about RC and his foxes.

    Sami, IF you get a chance...would you explain to me all the holes in my theory.



    WHAT IF, someone were to take a shower, but they were a tad messy, like MY male. Getting something "DRY"- really DRY, IMO, is beyond the "Y" chromosome.

    Later, a little girl with semi-dried blood on her little feet should traipses through that same room.

    Would there be a difference in what the CSIs saw?

    Thanks Samiya


    My guess would be that it would not leave a print as suggested by other posters but rather more of a smear if mixed with water. Depending on the amount of water I suppose. I also beleive that it would have to be rather fresh rather than dried. I don't beleive that water would make dried or semi-dried blood turn back to liquid form but I don't really know. There are posters here a lot smarter than me who could probably answer this for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5bigfish5

    Sami, IF you get a chance...would you explain to me all the holes in my theory.

    WHAT IF, someone were to take a shower, but they were a tad messy, like MY male. Getting something "DRY"- really DRY, IMO, is beyond the "Y" chromosome.

    Later, a little girl with semi-dried blood on her little feet should traipses through that same room.

    Would there be a difference in what the CSIs saw?

    Thanks Samiya


    If there was water on the floor and the blood on Cassidy's feet had congealed, there is a possibility of the water on the floor being pink stained. Someone would have to ask their DNA friend about 'watered down blood and getting DNA' because that is wayyyy beyond me.

    There probably would be some kind of pattern if the water pool was bigger than Cassidy's foot, but the wetter the blood is, the more dispersion in a pool of water, and more so than with only blood there would certainly be drips from the motion of walking.

    hugs
    Sami

    Don't forget candles for Michelle starting at midnight tonight....although my biggest hugs to those who have started early! We have 35 candles lit in Michelle's honour and I am tickled pink!

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...?l=eng&gi=MMFY

    Thanks everyone

    love
    Sami
    xxx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samiya
    If there was water on the floor and the blood on Cassidy's feet had congealed, there is a possibility of the water on the floor being pink stained. Someone would have to ask their DNA friend about 'watered down blood and getting DNA' because that is wayyyy beyond me.

    There probably would be some kind of pattern if the water pool was bigger than Cassidy's foot, but the wetter the blood is, the more dispersion in a pool of water, and more so than with only blood there would certainly be drips from the motion of walking.

    hugs
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    Don't forget candles for Michelle starting at midnight tonight....although my biggest hugs to those who have started early! We have 35 candles lit in Michelle's honour and I am tickled pink!

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...?l=eng&gi=MMFY

    Thanks everyone

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    Thanks Pack & Sami,

    I really wasn't that worried about a bunch of water, just good & wet.


    I was just wondering if, $hit, what do I know..we don't even know the flooring...nevermind.

    I am NOT crazy. CTV makes me that way!

    XXOO

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5bigfish5
    Thanks Pack & Sami,

    I really wasn't that worried about a bunch of water, just good & wet.


    I was just wondering if, $hit, what do I know..we don't even know the flooring...nevermind.

    I am NOT crazy. CTV makes me that way!

    XXOO
    Most likely tile. Just a guess but I think this home and neighborhood is too "upscale" to have linolium. Just a guess though.

    I'm not sure I'm buying that there are footprints in the bathroom and not in the hallway. If Cassidy wandered in while the perp is showering or has showered, there would be blood in the hall. If there was no blood in the hall, I don't really beleive that water in the floor would have caused footprints. If it was dried enough not to stain carpet, I doubt it would come off in water to make a print or prints.

    The other scenario was that she was carried to the bathroom. A perp that cared enough to carry her to the bathroom to clean off her feet would not imo be able to leave that dear child in the house with her dead mother.

    I also think that the scene did not look like it did the day of the murder. By the time the family came in, LE had been in the house for a while and things were moved, I bet they had taken carpet possibly, sheetrock, other evidence that would have changed the appearance of the house.

    All jmo of course....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pack_fan
    Most likely tile. Just a guess but I think this home and neighborhood is too "upscale" to have linolium. Just a guess though.

    I'm not sure I'm buying that there are footprints in the bathroom and not in the hallway. If Cassidy wandered in while the perp is showering or has showered, there would be blood in the hall. If there was no blood in the hall, I don't really beleive that water in the floor would have caused footprints. If it was dried enough not to stain carpet, I doubt it would come off in water to make a print or prints.

    The other scenario was that she was carried to the bathroom. A perp that cared enough to carry her to the bathroom to clean off her feet would not imo be able to leave that dear child in the house with her dead mother.

    I also think that the scene did not look like it did the day of the murder. By the time the family came in, LE had been in the house for a while and things were moved, I bet they had taken carpet possibly, sheetrock, other evidence that would have changed the appearance of the house.

    All jmo of course....
    I have to agree with you on that. If the hall is carpetted as well as the bedroom, the carpet would've 'removed' the blood from underneath the feet mostly. The collected blood would've been up the sides of her feet and between her toes by the time she got to the bathroom.

    When I wrote *There probably would be some kind of pattern if the water pool was bigger than Cassidy's foot, but the wetter the blood is, the more dispersion in a pool of water, and more so than with only blood there would certainly be drips from the motion of walking.*

    I should have clarified that the pattern would be like a pinkish 'swirling' in the water, not necessarily a 'foot pattern' on the floor.

    Sami

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    It is too funny that JY's sister is playing CSI with the blood in the bath and the lack of prints elsewhere. CCBI was there for 11 days. They know what they have and are acting on it. They don't need JY's sister questioning a missing "tooth" and where or where not bloody tracks lead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barney Fife
    It is too funny that JY's sister is playing CSI with the blood in the bath and the lack of prints elsewhere. CCBI was there for 11 days. They know what they have and are acting on it. They don't need JY's sister questioning a missing "tooth" and where or where not bloody tracks lead.
    This is why I love the fact that LE is keeping everything close to the vest. These people are more hungrier for information than we are to the point of exasperation and nervous wrecks. We can see that because everytime they're up against the wall another boulder is hurled at Meredith.

    As each day goes by it gives me pleasure to think that JY has sweated out another one. That "crying towel" must be pretty wet by now!!

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    Thank you to Candlelighters :)

    This was a beautiful feeling when at 11:59pm on Michelle's birthday I counted 105 candles all burning brightly at the candles website in honour of Michelle.

    Thank you to all who participated.

    Sami
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    It was wonderful Sami, I even saw your daughters candle! I went back this afternoon and did one from my nik at CTV, so I took two spots, but each had a different thought.

    Somehow I see any woman who is murdered while with child, as being held by angels, together with her bebe. It just has to be that way.


    Nitey Nite all Scandi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samiya
    I have to agree with you on that. If the hall is carpetted as well as the bedroom, the carpet would've 'removed' the blood from underneath the feet mostly. The collected blood would've been up the sides of her feet and between her toes by the time she got to the bathroom.

    When I wrote *There probably would be some kind of pattern if the water pool was bigger than Cassidy's foot, but the wetter the blood is, the more dispersion in a pool of water, and more so than with only blood there would certainly be drips from the motion of walking.*

    I should have clarified that the pattern would be like a pinkish 'swirling' in the water, not necessarily a 'foot pattern' on the floor.

    Sami
    I just saw something on CTV last night that I think may have been used in this case. LE used luminol to track the killer's steps. Luminol can work on very faint prints that a killer would most likely miss. Surely, there was blood everywhere. Even if the killer tried to clean up his footprints, I bet that he didn't get them all. Plus, the luminol probably would highlight the areas that where the attempted cleaning occurred.

    If the killer showered after the murder, I believe the police know this. I bet they have reconstructed what happened that night. I only wish that MY had been able to injure her murderer. However, I'm not sure that happened. It would have been great had they been able to find JY's blood mixed with MY's at the scene.

    I really think that the police know who committed the crime. I think that they have pieced together what happened before and after the crime. I guess that they are waiting for that one definitive piece of evidence to jump out at them. I hope that they find it, and justice can be done for MY and her family.

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    I'm thinking that they can't place him at the crime scene mainly because of the questionairre they gave out to all the neighbors a week or so ago.

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