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    He breaks into apartment, mistaking porn screams for actual rape

    Wis. man’s good intentions die by the sword

    He breaks into apartment, mistaking porn screams for actual rape


    OCONOMOWOC, Wis. - A man said he broke into an apartment with a cavalry sword because he thought he heard a woman being raped, but the sound actually was from a pornographic movie his upstairs neighbor was watching.
    “Now I feel stupid,” said James Van Iveren, who has been charged in the case. “This really is nothing, nothing but a mistake.”

    According to a criminal complaint, the neighbor told police that Van Iveren pounded on the door and kicked it open without warning Feb. 12, damaging the frame and lock.

    “Where is she?” Van Iveren demanded, thrusting the sword at the neighbor, the complaint said. “Where is she?”

    The neighbor told police Van Iveren became increasingly aggressive as he repeated the question, insisting that he had heard a woman being raped. The complaint said that, with the sword pointed at him, the neighbor led Van Iveren throughout the apartment, opening closet doors to prove he was alone.

    The neighbor later played for police the part of the DVD he believed Van Iveren heard downstairs.

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    Okay here's my question....why did freak boy need his porn turned up so loud that the neighbors could here it? If you need your porn turned up that loud get some headphones. I would find it offensive to be sitting in my apt and have to hear that and I hope no kids heard it. He should be charged for something, there has to be a sound ordinance.

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    Do some porn movies have rape-related themes? As in, the woman "screaming for help" would have sounded authentic? If so, I can see why a neighbor might come to that conclusion. He probably would have been wiser to call 911.

    Adding my own , I'm no fan of porn (and don't know much about it), but I always thought consensual sex was the standard. The notion that rape could be realistically portrayed as a plot point in an adult entertainment film sickens me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFWifey
    Do some porn movies have rape-related themes? As in, the woman "screaming for help" would have sounded authentic? If so, I can see why a neighbor might come to that conclusion. He probably would have been wiser to call 911.

    Adding my own , I'm no fan of porn (and don't know much about it), but I always thought consensual sex was the standard. The notion that rape could be realistically portrayed as a plot point in an adult entertainment film sickens me.
    There's porn for every taste - including rape and non-consensual sex.
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    Thank you, southcitymom, for an answer that isn't graphic, but tells me all I need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious1
    Okay here's my question....why did freak boy need his porn turned up so loud that the neighbors could here it? If you need your porn turned up that loud get some headphones. I would find it offensive to be sitting in my apt and have to hear that and I hope no kids heard it. He should be charged for something, there has to be a sound ordinance.
    ROFL!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious1
    Okay here's my question....why did freak boy need his porn turned up so loud that the neighbors could here it? If you need your porn turned up that loud get some headphones. I would find it offensive to be sitting in my apt and have to hear that and I hope no kids heard it. He should be charged for something, there has to be a sound ordinance.
    Well, we don't know that he's a freak, lots of people are into porn, but yeah you think he would get some headphones or have it at a reasonable level ie so all the neighbours couldn't hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narlacat
    Well, we don't know that he's a freak, lots of people are into porn, but yeah you think he would get some headphones or have it at a reasonable level ie so all the neighbours couldn't hear.
    Could be that the walls are paper thin. I bet he'll be turning it down during future viewings....
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    Quote Originally Posted by narlacat
    Well, we don't know that he's a freak...
    I have no problem with porn. But if porn depicting rape isn't freaky, what is? (I suppose it's possible that something sounded like rape in the next apartment, but clearly wasn't at all when viewing the DVD.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova
    I have no problem with porn. But if porn depicting rape isn't freaky, what is? (I suppose it's possible that something sounded like rape in the next apartment, but clearly wasn't at all when viewing the DVD.)
    We don't know that it was porn depicting rape though, but I agree that kind of porn is not my cup of tea and wonder how people get off on stuff like that...do you think they are would be rapists guys that get into that kind of porn?


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    I actually thought it was great that the neighbor was willing to get involved. Too many times we hear about situations where something bad really is happening and people don't do anything.

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    Most renters would just pound on the ceiling with a broom if the upstairs tenants were noisy. This guy has been watching way too many "hero saving the damsel in distress" movies on his new flatscreen TV. He probably had the sword right by the front door, along with his cape, so he could grab them on his way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narlacat
    We don't know that it was porn depicting rape though, but I agree that kind of porn is not my cup of tea and wonder how people get off on stuff like that...do you think they are would be rapists guys that get into that kind of porn?
    I'm sure plenty of rapists get into this type of porn, but I have a few suburban mom housewife friends who like it as well. Some studies have shown that rape (or being forcibly overpowered) is a fairly common female sexual fantasy.
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    The fact is if there had been a rape this man would be a hero...


    So few neighbors bother to get involved ... wheather its children being abused or an elderly person alone ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom
    I'm sure plenty of rapists get into this type of porn, but I have a few suburban mom housewife friends who like it as well. Some studies have shown that rape (or being forcibly overpowered) is a fairly common female sexual fantasy.
    Now you tell me.

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