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  1. #1
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    NJ - Logan Twp, Fem UP1779, 18-30, off I-295, long black hair, Mar'04

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/laimer_sue.html

    Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

    Missing Since: March 1, 2001 from Sugar Loaf, New York
    Classification: Endangered Missing
    Date Of Birth: September 15, 1958
    Age: 42 years old
    Height and Weight: 5'5, 128 pounds
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Black hair, brown eyes. Laimer's hair was shoulder-length at the time of her disappearance. She has a scar on the left side of her face, running from her upper lip to her nostril, from plastic surgery. She also has purple scars on both legs below the knee.

    http://www.njsp.org/miss/ui_glouces_u170007495.html
    CASE INFORMATION The female victim's body was found on March 2, 2004 in Logan Township, NJ. The body was partially clothed.

    NIC# U170007495

    Case Number A140200400102

    Date Body Found March 2, 2004

    Estimated Date of Death January 15, 2004

    BIOLOGICAL PROFILE

    Estimated Year of Birth 1974 - 1986

    Sex Female

    Race Unknown

    Height 4'11" to 5'2"

    Weight 80 - 110 lbs.

    Hair Black

    Eye Brown

    Scars, Marks, Tattoos None

    CLOTHING The victim was found wearing a teal "Forever 21" purple and yellow striped shirt (size 0) and black capri pants, see similar photos above.

    Other Information The victim did have long hair with light colored streaks, pink/purple fingernail polish, and brown nail polish on toenails. No restorations on teeth.

    Full x-rays and dental records are available for comparison.

    Caucasian Characteristics looks similar
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-08-2013 at 10:57 PM.

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    Hard to say the height, age, and hair length are off. Plus the body found was quickly after death. if it was sue then she would have been mainly a few scattered bones after 3 years in the open also they did not mention the surgical scars an important iding charcteristic.

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    It doesn't mention her physical condition. It is a little odd to wear capri's in the winter months though. Too cold for this area.

    Also her picture doesn't show some large scar on her face. I feel sorry for her.

    She probably told her boss she broke her toe but really checking in to rehab. Who is going to call in and say that?

    The scar? like a clef palate?

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    Yeah but after 3 years in the open (for Sue) it would be unlikley for them say "the body" not "the sceletonized remains" Thats what I was getting at just didn't want to sound harsh.

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    Well they looked in the boyfriends boat. You can't put a boat in the water in March in NYS or NJ. So she could have runaway so she didn't have to enter rehab. Maybe hanging out with unsavory characters.It doesnt say her blood disorder. Geez I hope it's no Diabetes.

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    I would say it's not diabetes because thats not rare. I don't think it's her to many things don't add up like the lack of scars on the jane doe but if you fel it's sue you should let the contact agency know

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    Sue Laimer's Namus page:
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/8028/0/
    DNA is not available now and her dental charts will be entered later.

    The UID has had both mitochondrial DNA and nuclear DNA done in the University of North Texas, and her dental charts show a perfect row of perfect teeth, nothing missing, no dental work.
    https://identifyus.org/cases/1779

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    this MP is a decent match, close to most of the parameters, Mariana Pineda, age 16 missing from Georgia on December 17, 2003. Mariana was 5'4", 110 lbs, with black hair and brown eyes. no other distinguishing features which is consistent with the UID. not a bad facial comparison at least with the sketches of the UID.

    http://www.nampn.org/cases/pineda_mariana.html

    per Namus, however, there are no dentals, fingerprints or DNA for Mariana.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6532/0/

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    This UID is on the doenetwork
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/41ufnj.html



    Reconstructions of Victim with Hispanic & Caucasian Characteristics

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    face looks Asian to me. wouldn't the DNA reveal the racial components?

    Quote Originally Posted by DippyBlonder View Post
    This UID is on the doenetwork
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/41ufnj.html



    Reconstructions of Victim with Hispanic & Caucasian Characteristics


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    Exclusions
    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    JOYVALINE MARTINEZ 1979 Connecticut
    Hyun Jong Song 1980 Pennsylvania

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    More exclusions for this UID in the past year:

    Exclusions
    The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:
    First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA
    Tina Coverdale 1963 Delaware
    Billie Hall 1960 Maryland
    Usha Iyer 1971 New Jersey
    Gail Katz-Bierenbaum 1956 New York
    JOYVALINE MARTINEZ 1979 Connecticut
    Frances Morales 1962 New Jersey
    Anastasiya Ovetsky 1982 New Jersey
    Ramona Redd 1983 Maryland
    Maryanne Ruffini 1968 New Jersey
    Nicole Russo 1978 New Jersey
    Hyun Jong Song 1980 Pennsylvania
    Karen Zendrosky 1963 New Jersey

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    Kristine Grace Rodrigo fits the UID's physical parameters and is not on the rule-out list. Although she is missing from Oxnard, California, the circumstances are interesting enough to not exclude her being thousands of miles from home. From NamUs:
    MP indicated that she was flying to North or South Carolina to meet a man she met on the internet. Unknown exact date in 2003 or 2004.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/24708/54/
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._kristine.html

    That said, both her profile and the UID's show DNA as "Sample submitted - Tests complete" so you would think an auto-comparison would have been done by now. Dentals are available for the UID, while fingerprints are available for Kristine.

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    bump.

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    I think that they don't do auto rule outs in namus though. Just in codis.



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