Page 1 of 16 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 231
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,162

    IL - The Unidentified Victims of John Wayne Gacy

    I noticed that the unidentified victims of John Wayne Gacy do not have listings on Doe Network. Were they ever identified? I know that there were nine unidentified boys/men and that Betty Pat Gatliff made reconstructions. I wonder if they were ever id'd based on the reconstructions she made.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 01-14-2013 at 03:22 AM.


  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,748
    I couldn't find any listings for these victims on any of the sites.

    There is a good article about Forensic Anthropology, in the Crime Library that does mention the reconstructions:
    http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal...opology/1.html

    Exerpt - talking about the reconstructions in the Gacy Case:

    Despite all of this effort, people were reluctant to come forward, so the nine victims remained unidentified.

    So I guess its another case of "They are dead, their killer has been convicted, they don't need names".

    On page 5 of the above mentioned article they are talking about Karen T. Taylor's work - she's the sculptress who created the reconstructions:

    over two hundred cases for law enforcement, including creating sculptures based on the remains of nine of the thirty-three victims of serial killer John Wayne Gacy. From her work, one victim was identified as a young man from Nebraska---he was the first one Gacy killed---and five more were tentatively identified.


    This is a brief site which talks about the victims
    :
    http://members.tripod.com/diagnosis_sk/id6.html
    Exerpt:
    Only 25 of Gacys victims were ever identified, the other 8 were buried in a paupers grave with the inscription on the grave stone reading we are remembered.

    ***They may be remembered, but they are still unidentified

    Hope this helps


  3. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to PonderingThings For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    4,980
    Quote Originally Posted by PonderingThings
    ..... so the nine victims remained unidentified.

    .... creating sculptures based on the remains of nine of the thirty-three victims of serial killer John Wayne Gacy. ... one victim was identified as a young man from Nebraska ... five more were tentatively identified.



    ... Only 25 of Gacys victims were ever identified, the other 8 were buried in a paupers grave with the inscription on the grave stone reading we are remembered.
    Accounts of the numbers tend to vary, depending on the source. 29 bodies were found under Gacy's house and yard, with six of them being unidentified. Later, after his arrest, others were found. In the end, Gacy was convicted of 33 counts of murder on 30 March 1980 and the next day he was sentenced to death.

    Regarding the burial of the unknown victims: It would appear from the above and from a book I have on the subject that there is a difference of opinion on that subject as well. This source states that on 12 June 1981, a memorial service for the unidentified victims was held at Oakridge Cemetery in the Chicago suburb of Hillside. Each body was in a separate coffin (a photo confirms this). After the service, the bodies were dispersed to several different cemeteries, because authorities feared that burying them in one place might create a macabre tourist attraction.

    I would think that this is more accurate than burying all of those coffins in a single grave.

    I too have seen photos of the busts created of the victims. If information on each of those boys could be compiled, and submitted with a picture of the reconstruction to the Doenetwork, they would probably be included on the website. I cannot say for certain, because I do not run that site, but I have submitted cases to them in the past, and they were very interested in them, and put them on the website a short time after they were submitted.


  5. The Following User Says Thank You to Richard For This Useful Post:


  6. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,162
    Just bumping an old post up.

    I know what the reconstructions look like from a book I have. They all look so similar....:/


  7. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,266

  8. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to outofthedark For This Useful Post:


  9. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    80

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ASU2USC For This Useful Post:


  11. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    1,306
    Sadly the reconstructions all look similar.
    I know back in the 70s-80s lots of male prostitutes hung out at bus depots around Chicago. Many no longer had contact with their families due to being gay and often drug addicted.

    It is sad that these men will forever be known as the "gacy unidentified victims" They deserve better.


  12. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to pixies For This Useful Post:


  13. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    178
    I'm glad things have changed now that it's no longer a stigma to be gay but i feel sad for these boys that it seems that noone is looking for them or missing them. They deserve more than to be just a number

    On a side note....... what does mrs Gacy know about these boys and who they were ??


  14. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to cenasangel For This Useful Post:


  15. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,162
    Bumping


  16. The Following User Says Thank You to anthrobones For This Useful Post:


  17. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,162
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/959umil.html

    was identified in June 2007.


  18. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to anthrobones For This Useful Post:


  19. #11
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,162
    Could this one be one of the UID's?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3dmil.html


  20. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to anthrobones For This Useful Post:


  21. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,266
    He does kinda look like one of them , but it's hard to tell which one because the forensic artist who did those reconstructions made all the victims look the same


  22. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to outofthedark For This Useful Post:


  23. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    1,162
    I'm assuming they were buried, but I wonder if LE would ever try exhuming their skulls to do new reconstructions--maybe computer generated?


  24. The Following User Says Thank You to anthrobones For This Useful Post:


  25. #14
    Cubby is offline 50K reward, Bob Harrod-Missing: Call Det. Radomski 714-993-8176
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Chicago burbs
    Posts
    72,962
    A call to the LaSalle County sheriff's office indicates they believe Dermot was ruled out. (link to missing person two posts previously)

    I have a call into the Cook County medical examiners office to inquire if there is a list of rule outs for the 8 remaining unidentified Gacy victims.
    ~JMO~

    A grandfather is someone with silver in his hair and gold in his heart. ~Author Unknown


    Long Lost Love - Discovery ID - Disappeared - Bob Harrod Case

    You can now purchase Mr. Harrod's Disappeared episode through Amazon, iTunes or YouTube.


    Websleuths Resource Center

    Call Kurtis - Psychics and the Missing


  26. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Cubby For This Useful Post:


  27. #15
    Cubby is offline 50K reward, Bob Harrod-Missing: Call Det. Radomski 714-993-8176
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Chicago burbs
    Posts
    72,962
    I was only able to find links to the 8 uid victims on Doenetwork. They are not listed at NamUs.
    ~JMO~

    A grandfather is someone with silver in his hair and gold in his heart. ~Author Unknown


    Long Lost Love - Discovery ID - Disappeared - Bob Harrod Case

    You can now purchase Mr. Harrod's Disappeared episode through Amazon, iTunes or YouTube.


    Websleuths Resource Center

    Call Kurtis - Psychics and the Missing


  28. The Following User Says Thank You to Cubby For This Useful Post:


Page 1 of 16 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. TX TX - Unidentified victims of Dean Corll, 1970-1973
    By kline in forum The Unidentified
    Replies: 134
    Last Post: 05-18-2015, 06:47 PM
  2. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-14-2011, 04:37 AM
  3. CA CA - WAYNE ADAM FORD, highway sex killer, 1980's-90's
    By PonderingThings in forum Serial Killers
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-16-2007, 04:30 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •