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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    IMO, Floyd is holding onto Sharon's real identity because it is the very last thing he has any control over.

    I honestly wish everyone, on all the Sharon Marshall forums/threads/sites/myspace pages, would just all ban together, share information, work together and find out who she is.

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    Well said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    I have been following this case for sometime....not so long ago I went and took pics of where Floyd grew up, was contaplating (sp?) going to the local jail and interviewing Dial, hubby wouldn't allow it. Anyhow, I was banned from the site where all the research is/was being done after the original thread was shut down here, don't know the real reasons why. But what I gather, somehow the timing with my life being extremely busy lined up with some crazy stuff going on 'behind the scenes' I wasn't aware of and I next thing ya know I can't get in. I get an email saying I am not doing enough, haven't posted enough, acted excited then did nothing, I was told I shouldn't make promises to family members I couldn't keep, yada yada yada, oh and yes, I wasn't called it out right, but insinuated that I was a Mole for the Sharon Marshall thread for WS. I was told I said bad things about the main person back on WS, before I knew they were the same person that I met up with at the new site, I didn't even know they were the same person, LOL....anyhow..... I have stayed away from anything Sharon related for a few weeks because, well, maybe I do volunteer too much then can't get it done, but I am trying, my feelings got really hurt. I never got in the middle of drama before on any forums and it kinda blindsided me and threw me for a loop.
    My oh my, who would've thought that casually discussing an unidentified person's mystery would escalate to accusations of espionage and threaten full-blown interforum warfare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    I wasn't around when the drama occured, and sadly the continuous discussion of the drama makes me ( and probably others ) lose interest in following this thread. It's sad all this "reaction" has come about based on someone elses disappointed reaction to others involved. Who honestly cares who has what information, or who finds what information?

    Continue on, regardless of what a few think.
    Very well said! Too bad some people get hung up on things like that...we can't let our egos get in the way when this is not about us, it's about Sharon. I, too, wish that everyone that cared about Sharon could just band together and do whatever we can to find her identity. All this "drama" makes me feel like I'm back in high school, instead of a discussion forum for intelligent adults.

    Oh yeah...Tuffy, you had asked about Floyd having a sister in Tampa? I looked around and couldn't find anything about that. His sister Dorothy lived in South Carolina, at least at one point. He also had a sister Tommye that lived in Colorado. Oh, Dorothy's husband was in the military (just saw that in the book) so maybe they moved around. Anyone else know about this?

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    I wasn't around when the drama occured, and sadly the continuous discussion of the drama makes me ( and probably others ) lose interest in following this thread.

    Hiya Cubby....I had just came in on the tail end of the first drama....and was not referring to that, I was referring to something more recent....I totally agree and understand talking about this stuff turns people off and I won't ever bring up this stuff again.

    Continue on, regardless of what a few think.
    It is not that simple. This is not a game, (not saying you think so, trying to make a point)...all of the people involved, FDF, his family, friends, etc, are not characters in a good mystery, they are human beings (well, FDF, not so sure), anyhow....

    this is an investigation, and in a PROPER investigation you have a lead investigator then people under that person who all work together to solve a case. Imagine a police dept, and there are 3 rooms, in each room is 7 different investigators, all working on finding the identity of a young girl....they are all working it out in their own ways, following leads...they discover there is a witness to something, room 1 finds this person and goes to interview them, a few hours later this witness has a knock on the door, another investigator, wanting to interview them, another hour and another investigator shows up....get what I'm saying??? We can't be ALL be running around like idiots calling people, writing people, interviewing people, trying to get her story on the news, makes sense? Maybe am I wrong, I don't know.

    Back to the case, which I would enjoy discussing, (I don't believe I am willing to physically participate in this investigation any longer, but I'm all for discussing and watching you all do yer thing )

    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    Myself, I'd love to concoct a way to pick at FDF's brain and find a motivator to get him to spill it.
    Previously, I had seriously considered getting a PO box as our other 'friend' did and her and I had discussed me doing this, coming up with another identity to try and pick his brain. He is talking, just not what we want to hear....he knows what that particular writer is after, I believe someone should come in from another angle, maybe more than one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina_M View Post
    Oh yeah...Tuffy, you had asked about Floyd having a sister in Tampa? I looked around and couldn't find anything about that. His sister Dorothy lived in South Carolina, at least at one point. He also had a sister Tommye that lived in Colorado. Oh, Dorothy's husband was in the military (just saw that in the book) so maybe they moved around. Anyone else know about this?
    I am not positive, but I believe there is a sister here in GA, that was the person I was asked to go see, or maybe it was his Aunt. I will have to see if I can find my notes from back then, all of my stuff is at home, I'm at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    this is an investigation, and in a PROPER investigation you have a lead investigator then people under that person who all work together to solve a case. Imagine a police dept, and there are 3 rooms, in each room is 7 different investigators, all working on finding the identity of a young girl....they are all working it out in their own ways, following leads...they discover there is a witness to something, room 1 finds this person and goes to interview them, a few hours later this witness has a knock on the door, another investigator, wanting to interview them, another hour and another investigator shows up....get what I'm saying??? We can't be ALL be running around like idiots calling people, writing people, interviewing people, trying to get her story on the news, makes sense? Maybe am I wrong, I don't know.
    That's a great point, Christine. In most of the cases I've read up on here, there is sort of a "lead investigator" who oversees the other WSers, directs the investigation, acts as the contact person for LE, sort of a managerial position (Dr. Doogie on the Anna Waters thread comes to mind ) It's often a family member, or friend of the family, of the person in question. But since Sharon has no family, it's a little different I guess. We just have to try to stick together and get organized. It's too bad we can't all stick together on one forum, but I guess we'll do the best we can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina_M View Post
    That's a great point, Christine. In most of the cases I've read up on here, there is sort of a "lead investigator" who oversees the other WSers, directs the investigation, acts as the contact person for LE, sort of a managerial position (Dr. Doogie on the Anna Waters thread comes to mind ) It's often a family member, or friend of the family, of the person in question. But since Sharon has no family, it's a little different I guess. We just have to try to stick together and get organized. It's too bad we can't all stick together on one forum, but I guess we'll do the best we can
    Hiya Gina! Hugs! Yes, Dr Doogie and AW thread was exactly what I was thinking in my head while making that statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    Hiya Gina! Hugs! Yes, Dr Doogie and AW thread was exactly what I was thinking in my head while making that statement.
    Hi Christine! GMTA I guess! (Great Minds Think Alike)

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    Okay, here's a new theory that just popped into my head. We've questioned whether someone is out there looking for Sharon, whether anyone ever reported her missing. There's been speculation that she was somehow "orphaned" or that Floyd took her from someone "on the fringes" of society (a prostitute estranged from her family, for example). Recently there was discussion of Indian Reservations. Great idea because even with today's modern technology, they are still fairly isolated from "our world" - but Sharon looks Caucasian to me. I may not have read all of the archives yet but has anyone ever discussed a theory that Sharon might have been from an Amish community? Or something similar like Mennonite? I've been reading up on it a bit lately (not related to Sharon's case, just my own curiosity) and the Amish generally do not even press charges when crimes are committed against them. (Just Google "Amish" and "Crimes") Could it be possible that an Amish child would disappear, and the family would not file a missing persons report? They believe in letting God take care of everything and they rarely deal with the criminal justice system. Also, since they generally don't use modern technology like TV, internet, etc. it's unlikely they would even have seen Sharon's info in the media.

    Just a thought. Another is that she was born into a cult or a cultish place like Synanon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christine2448 View Post
    Hiya Cubby....I had just came in on the tail end of the first drama....and was not referring to that, I was referring to something more recent....I totally agree and understand talking about this stuff turns people off and I won't ever bring up this stuff again.



    It is not that simple. This is not a game, (not saying you think so, trying to make a point)...all of the people involved, FDF, his family, friends, etc, are not characters in a good mystery, they are human beings (well, FDF, not so sure), anyhow....

    this is an investigation, and in a PROPER investigation you have a lead investigator then people under that person who all work together to solve a case. Imagine a police dept, and there are 3 rooms, in each room is 7 different investigators, all working on finding the identity of a young girl....they are all working it out in their own ways, following leads...they discover there is a witness to something, room 1 finds this person and goes to interview them, a few hours later this witness has a knock on the door, another investigator, wanting to interview them, another hour and another investigator shows up....get what I'm saying??? We can't be ALL be running around like idiots calling people, writing people, interviewing people, trying to get her story on the news, makes sense? Maybe am I wrong, I don't know.

    Back to the case, which I would enjoy discussing, (I don't believe I am willing to physically participate in this investigation any longer, but I'm all for discussing and watching you all do yer thing )



    Previously, I had seriously considered getting a PO box as our other 'friend' did and her and I had discussed me doing this, coming up with another identity to try and pick his brain. He is talking, just not what we want to hear....he knows what that particular writer is after, I believe someone should come in from another angle, maybe more than one?

    I agree. I guess what I was getting at is this is a sensitive case/issue and peoples feelings were hurt. Right, wrong or indifferent. Perhaps a truce can be made and leave "all that" as water under the bridge. Stealing someone else's words here, it was said about the Alec Baldwin issue you have to love your kids more than you hate the ex. I think everyone can agree the need to get this solved is more important than whatever misunderstandings and bad feelings occured in the past. Agree to disagree, and agree that some personality's may rub each other the wrong way but, in the end everyone has the same ultimate goal.

    I don't know the people involved, but perhaps someone here who does, can reach out to make those amends and everyone move forward.

    Heres to everyone getting along and doing so........
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by christine2448
    Hiya Gina! Hugs! Yes, Dr Doogie and AW thread was exactly what I was thinking in my head while making that statement.

    Hi Christine! GMTA I guess! (Great Minds Think Alike)

    Yes, Doogie is the bomb! I find he is so important because he's been in the loop so long, he knows what's been done and keeps everyone from chasing our tails.

    eta: copied rather than quoted since quoting would not have picked up both replies.
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    Picking floyds brain.

    I'm throwing out ideas to pick floyds brain. Perhaps someone could pose as a college student doing research. Not sure which angle, but these two come to mind. something along the psychology aspect with how the effects of his childhood had an effect on his future criminal behavior, or someone posing as a college student studying the falsely convicted. I recall North Western Univ in Chicago did a study on police brutality regarding false convictions with several on death row. Which eventually led to our former governor rescinding the death penalty. THinking about the Jon Burge issues with the south side police dept.

    It's well known Floyd has been adament about proving his innocence on one of his earliest crimes.

    I imagine it would have to come from someone with great knowledge in either area, as I imagine Floyd has had lots of time to "study" in prison......


    or we could pretend to be an advocacy group willing to fight for an appeal to his death sentance if he reveals the info? Long shot on that one.....

    Trying to think of something that's legal and won't put anyone in jeoprady.

    any thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    I agree. I guess what I was getting at is this is a sensitive case/issue and peoples feelings were hurt. Right, wrong or indifferent. Perhaps a truce can be made and leave "all that" as water under the bridge. Stealing someone else's words here, it was said about the Alec Baldwin issue you have to love your kids more than you hate the ex. I think everyone can agree the need to get this solved is more important than whatever misunderstandings and bad feelings occured in the past. Agree to disagree, and agree that some personality's may rub each other the wrong way but, in the end everyone has the same ultimate goal.

    I don't know the people involved, but perhaps someone here who does, can reach out to make those amends and everyone move forward.

    Heres to everyone getting along and doing so........
    Amen and Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    I'm throwing out ideas to pick floyds brain. Perhaps someone could pose as a college student doing research. Not sure which angle, but these two come to mind. something along the psychology aspect with how the effects of his childhood had an effect on his future criminal behavior, or someone posing as a college student studying the falsely convicted. I recall North Western Univ in Chicago did a study on police brutality regarding false convictions with several on death row. Which eventually led to our former governor rescinding the death penalty. THinking about the Jon Burge issues with the south side police dept.

    It's well known Floyd has been adament about proving his innocence on one of his earliest crimes.

    I imagine it would have to come from someone with great knowledge in either area, as I imagine Floyd has had lots of time to "study" in prison......


    or we could pretend to be an advocacy group willing to fight for an appeal to his death sentance if he reveals the info? Long shot on that one.....

    Trying to think of something that's legal and won't put anyone in jeoprady.

    any thoughts?
    I like both of yer ideas, really. I think both should be tried. JMO, FWIW. I really like the second.

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    especially if its a young pretty gal doing the "interviewing".....
    My idea still holds that I think Sharon's parents must be either dead, or very disabled - or very poor - could have been addicts - perhaps others were caring for the child, getting a welfare check for her - maybe floyd convinced them to let him have the child and they could keep the monthly check/foodstamps......perhaps her folks were in jail and others were caring for her when floyd came along....except for the amish, as someone else suggested - i cannot think of another group of people who wouldn't question over the years what happened to their "disappeared" daughter - just look - over and over again on the net pages set up by parents, by siblings, by grandchildren - over those who disappeared - hoping for a lead, somewhere, somehow - with all the publicity the marshall/davis case has gotten, at some point a parent up on this stuff who cared about a missing daughter from that time would know.....
    jmo

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    christine - what site are you talkinga bout, where all the original research was/is being done? is there a site other then ws looking into this case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubby View Post
    I agree. I guess what I was getting at is this is a sensitive case/issue and peoples feelings were hurt. Right, wrong or indifferent. Perhaps a truce can be made and leave "all that" as water under the bridge. Stealing someone else's words here, it was said about the Alec Baldwin issue you have to love your kids more than you hate the ex. I think everyone can agree the need to get this solved is more important than whatever misunderstandings and bad feelings occured in the past. Agree to disagree, and agree that some personality's may rub each other the wrong way but, in the end everyone has the same ultimate goal.

    I don't know the people involved, but perhaps someone here who does, can reach out to make those amends and everyone move forward.

    Heres to everyone getting along and doing so........
    Quote Originally Posted by timetravel View Post
    christine - what site are you talkinga bout, where all the original research was/is being done? is there a site other then ws looking into this case?
    The way I understand it, there was some stuff going on in Sharon's original forum here on WS, the forum was shut down by the mods as a result, and some people were banned. One of the banned people started their own site similar to this one. We are not allowed to link to that site. We are also not allowed to take information posted over there and paste it over here. In effect, there is a rift between these two sites. Some people, somehow manage to be members of both, but I think it would be a huge pain having to constantly remember what you can and can't talk about on each site. I really think it's up to the mods of each site if there were a "truce" to be called. I wish it could happen, however I'm not a mod anywhere so I have no say in the matter

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    well, i hope that stuff remains in the past...i joined up here because this site seemed to offer the most comprehnsive information and ideas on missing cases i have long been interested in....I didn't see it as a forum where members attacked each other - question, from time to time, but not attack.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by timetravel View Post
    well, i hope that stuff remains in the past...i joined up here because this site seemed to offer the most comprehnsive information and ideas on missing cases i have long been interested in....I didn't see it as a forum where members attacked each other - question, from time to time, but not attack.....
    Lots of people are looking into this case. There are several sites that 'discuss' it, there are myspace pages set up for her, there are a few threads on WS about her.

    There once was a forum here for Sharon, it's in the archives now....mass information there.

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    Someone asked me if the pictures were posted here from when I went to GBCH, where Floyd grew up and committed his first crimes. Where some say Michael is buried...

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...CH#post1346981

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie View Post
    The following is a timeline for events in the Sharon Marshall / Franklin Delano Floyd story. It was prepared by former member Hollow with updates of the most recent discoveries.

    TIMELINE

    ????/Sharon is enrolled in Northside High School

    May 1983/ Sharon is enrolled in Baldwin High School

    September 1983/ Sharon is enrolled in Riverdale High School

    November 1983/ Sharon is enrolled in Forest Park High School in Georgia

    1986/ Sharon graduates high school
    Much thanks to Doogie for posting (and Hollow for preparing) this updated timeline! I copied it to my MySpace page for Sharon - hope that's okay. (I did give a link back here so people know where it came from!) I was looking at the dates she enrolled in the various high schools - and I know from reading ABC that Sharon completed her first semester of her sophomore year at Riverdale, and in November she transferred to Forest Park. She had attended Baldwin for her spring (second) semester of her freshman year - so all the dates filled in seem to make sense. Can we assume that she attended Northside for the first semester of her freshman year, maybe fill in an approximate date of Fall 1982? I can always add it in brackets on my copy, as an "approximate" date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina_M View Post
    Much thanks to Doogie for posting (and Hollow for preparing) this updated timeline! I copied it to my MySpace page for Sharon - hope that's okay. (I did give a link back here so people know where it came from!) I was looking at the dates she enrolled in the various high schools - and I know from reading ABC that Sharon completed her first semester of her sophomore year at Riverdale, and in November she transferred to Forest Park. She had attended Baldwin for her spring (second) semester of her freshman year - so all the dates filled in seem to make sense. Can we assume that she attended Northside for the first semester of her freshman year, maybe fill in an approximate date of Fall 1982? I can always add it in brackets on my copy, as an "approximate" date.
    Hollow has done amazing work (I can not say enough about the time and effort she has dedicated to trying to learn Sharon's identity, it is truly amazing), along with others on that time line. It is the 'backbone' of this entire case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Doogie View Post
    The following is a timeline for events in the Sharon Marshall / Franklin Delano Floyd story. It was prepared by former member Hollow with updates of the most recent discoveries.

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    1978/ Franklin and Sharon are in Arizona where she is enrolled in a school called Sevilla or Sevalia.
    Got this from someone at MySpace:

    The school in AZ is called Sevilla - it's located at 3801 W Missouri Ave Phoenix, AZ 85019 Phone # is (602) 242-0281. I would start by getting year books from all of these schools and looking people up. I went to Sevilla School, however, it was much later than 78. But, people in that general area didnt go far, im sure. Let me know if I can help in any way from AZ!

    Someone want to try to get a yearbook? I wrote the person back and asked her to print of some of Sharon's flyers (http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/Un...sp?id=A0103001) and distribute them in the area, and to try to get the word out to people she knows.

    ETA: Since it was elementary school, it would probably be a "class picture" instead of a yearbook.

    ETA2: I heard back from my source, and they did have yearbooks for grades 4-6, at least when she attended (early 90s). She's going to distribute flyers of Sharon this weekend around the Phoenix area

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    There is a Sevilla Primary School for K-3 and Sevilla West School for grades 4-6. What grade would Sharon have been in? Going by the year she graduated high school, she would have started 5th grade in 1978. But that would mean she started 2nd grade in 1975. I was assuming when she was first enrolled in Oklahoma in 1975 it was for 1st grade. That would put her in 4th grade in 1978. She was very smart and may have skipped a grade somewhere. (This sounds vaguely familiar...has this been discussed before? )

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    More thinking off the grid...... Perhaps Floyd does not know Sharons true identity. She was a random victim long before he progressed to the point of gathering and saving information on his victims.......... Did he stick around in the immediate area long enough to follow whatever news coverage at the time? Does any evidence exist pointing to a time frame on the information he gathered regarding his victims?
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