Identified! TX - Brazoria Co, Wht/Blk/HispFem 17-26, 343UFTX, Rafaella sweater, H.I.S. jeans, Q&Q watch, Dec'85 - Alisha "Lisa" Marie Cooks

Do you know more on her?The texas website said the estimated date of death was in 1984 in november not 1985 like the Doe network says.which is true?I tried to find out a long time ago and no one ever aswered me back.Please help me find out more on her .Newspaper articles anything that will help me.I am looking into this Jane doe possibly being my sister.I am wondering why the sheriffs department had this case, Rafaella on a name tag clothing was expensive in 1985 wasn't it?It seems like someone would be missing her.5'0 to 5'6 is a wide range.It makes me think she was found in 1984 a year earlier as skeletal remains?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/343uftx.html

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/Un...sp?id=U0401001

suzanne

here's what I could find:

Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Date: THU 04/24/1986
Section: 1
Page: 22
Edition: NO STAR
Identity of woman sought

Staff

A composite drawing of a young woman whose skeleton was found near Pearland last December is one of the few clues Brazoria County sheriff's personnel have to the victim's identity. The woman, shot in the back of the head, was about 5-feet, 3-inches tall and weighed about 100 pounds. She was clad in blue jeans and a sweater bearing the name Rafaella" on a name tag. Anyone with information is asked to contact the Brazoria Sheriff's Department at 409-331-9000.

Hi
Her name is tammy lynn leppert.She does not fit this Jane Does discription.Tammy had dyed blond hair.she is some indian also.If this Jane Doe died a year earlier would it show up skin color or said hispanic because of the cheek bones?how could they tell?If I find tammy as skeletal remains it would show her as hispanic or indian because of her high cheek bones and not match tammy's picture at all.Thankyou for looking for me.If she isn't tammy some one must love and be looking for this Jane Doe and still care of what became of her.

suzanne

I've read your geocities page before on your sister. I'll keep looking and see what I may find. I feel the UID above was probably not in the country legally if no one has reported her as missing or they haven't linked them. Brazoria county is close enough to the border and they have quite a population of illegal immigrants, only my thoughts on this one.

I just wish these websites would get on the ball and all have the same information... While looking through unidentifieds, and missing persons especially it seems like alot of sites have different information... I know one person I was curious about, i put they're name in the search engine and i think all 3 sites had different eye colors... GRRRR



Suzanne I just wanted to say good luck to finding your sister!!! She's very beautiful. And Wasnt too far from where I use to live (melbourne) I'll keep my eyes peeled... Take care!

Hi
Thankyou.you are sweet.I was wondering Rafaella on a name tag clothing was expensive in 1985 wasn't it?do you think she died in 84 or 85?which one do you think was right?Maybe we can find out who she is.she looked so pretty.I thought she looked like Rosario Gonzales missing in 1984 in Miami Florida.

suzanne

Hmmm Well I'd Guess (only a guess) she died in 84.. And as far as the sweater /name tag.. I have no clue, but it would be nice if they had a picture of that! Even a sketch of it.. Might jog someones memory. And i'm wondering about the dental? if thats accurate? (on the picture)or if there were any teeth even found I really wish they'd have more information on all these cases......



Ps wanted to add on this picture : http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/UnidentifiedDetails.asp?id=U0401001

Like above the nose.. below the eye area, like little lines? Not sure if thats anything??

suzannec4444 said:

Hi
Thankyou.you are sweet.I was wondering Rafaella on a name tag clothing was expensive in 1985 wasn't it?do you think she died in 84 or 85?which one do you think was right?Maybe we can find out who she is.she looked so pretty.I thought she looked like Rosario Gonzales missing in 1984 in Miami Florida.

suzanne

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I do not know what the brand sold for in the 80's but in Ebay it isnt too high at moment. I include a link so people might see some pics of that brand.
http://clothing.search.ebay.com/Raf...ZQQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/343uftx.html
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4481

This case was entered into Namus in 2008. The case profile on Namus was recently updated yesterday.
https://identifyus.org/cases/4481
I will highlight some of the updates to info compared to items in this thread.

***It appears that the label on the sweater is actually "Palais royal brand", and not rafaella. There is no mention of rafaella in the Namus documents. This makes me think that if rafaella was present, that it refers to a personal name tag and not the manufacturer label.

Estimated age Adult - Pre 30
Minimum age 17 years
Maximum age 25 years
***The age has been updated from 18-26 to 17-25.
Race Unsure (Prev noted in thread title as blk/hisp)
Sex Female
Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
Height (inches) 63, Estimated

Large portion of the body was recovered.
***the torso, and one or more limbs or hands were not recovered.
Not recognizable - Partial remains with soft tissues

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***Probable year of death 1984 to 1985
Estimated postmortem interval

Found approximately 50 yards east of the intersection of CR 59 an CR 94 in Brazoria County. Fracture of the 8th rib; wavy black or brown hair about five inches long.

Physical
Hair color Black
Head hair Wavy black or brown hair about five inches long.
eye color Unknown or Missing
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***Other medical information Partial spina bifida occulta
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Clothing on body Red pullover sweater "Palais Royal Brand, female type blue jeans without pockets
Jewelry Yellow metal wristwatch with black face and brown leather band, "Japan CBM Corp".
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Dental:
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Upper Right 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Upper Left
a n n p n n n n n p n n p n n a
Lower Right a n n p n n n n p n n n p f p p Lower Left
32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17

N=Natural tooth, no filling
F=Filling, inlay, onlay, or veneer
A=Antemortem loss (healed socket)
P=Postmortem loss (open socket)
***It appears out UID had 1 filling present and a few back molars removed antemortem.

DNA
Comments no STR data obtained after multiple attempts; mtDNA profile at national CODIS
***I am not sure of the significance of not being able to get STR data.

docwho3 said:

I do not know what the brand sold for in the 80's but in Ebay it isnt too high at moment. I include a link so people might see some pics of that brand.
http://clothing.search.ebay.com/Raf...ZQQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

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I clicked on this because the brand "Rafaella" sounded so familiar. I think they used to sell it at either Robinsons or May Company back then.

This 5'3" Bexar county gal was missing since Dec 14, 1985. Dawnia Howard:

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8547/1?current_page=case_information

Bumping!

I wonder what brand the clothes actually were. It's weird that they said two different things? Though I do like the idea of it being a personal name instead of the actual clothing's tag. But wouldn't they be able to tell?

rule out list as of last update (April 2015):

Tinze Huels 1967 Florida
Leslie Marty 1963 West Virginia
Michelle Thomas 1967 Texas

rats said:

Bumping!

I wonder what brand the clothes actually were. It's weird that they said two different things? Though I do like the idea of it being a personal name instead of the actual clothing's tag. But wouldn't they be able to tell?

rule out list as of last update (April 2015):

Tinze Huels 1967 Florida
Leslie Marty 1963 West Virginia
Michelle Thomas 1967 Texas

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I'd never heard of a clothing brand called "Palais Royal." A Google search later, I've now learned that Palais Royal isn't a clothing company, it's a department store whose headquarters are based in Houston. Do we know if anyone at the time checked to see if there were any store employees who suddenly stopped showing up to work?

+ 1 Rule Out: Patricia Osborn, 1964 Washington.

343UFTX - Unidentified Female


Reconstructions of the victim by Karen T. Taylor and Lois Gibson; victim's watch.

Date of Discovery: December 16, 1985
Location of Discovery: Brazoria County, Texas
Estimated Date of Death: 6 months to 1 year prior
State of Remains: Partial skeletal
Cause of Death: Gunshot wound to the head

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 17-26 years old
Race: Unknown, possibly White, Hispanic and/or Black
Sex: Female
Height: 5'0" to 5'6"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Black or brown, wavy and about five inches long.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Fracture of the eight rib, partial spina bifida occulta.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Available.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Size small Rafaella red pullover sweater with ¾ length sleeves and H.I.S. blue jeans with a 28" inseam.
Jewelry: Q&Q woman's watch with a square face and maroon leather band.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Discovery
The victim was located approximately 50 yards east of the intersection of County Road 59 and County Road 94 in Brazoria County.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Harris County Institute of Forensic Science
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 713-796-6858
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: PA85-0414

Agency Name: Brazoria County Sheriff’s Office
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 979-864-2215
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 8546795

Agency Name: Brazoria County Justice of the Peace
Agency Contact Person: Mark Adams
Agency Phone Number: 979-864-1402 or 979-864-2236
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: Unknown

Agency Name: Texas Department of Public Safety
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 512-424-5074
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: U0801013

NCIC Case Number: U450004292
NamUs Case Number: 4481
NCMEC Case Number: 1184328

Information Source(s)
NamUs
TXDPS
NCMEC
Houston Chronicle (4/24/86)

Admin Notes
Added: Prior to 2011; Last Updated: 1/16/18

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NamUs #UP4481

Estimated Age Group: Adult - Pre 30
Estimated Age Range (Years): 17-25
Estimated Year of Death: 1984-1985
Estimated Height: 5' 3" (63 inches)
Weight: Cannot Estimate

Missing Person Exclusions
MP4555 Denise Rodriguez 03/10/1984 San Francisco CA
MP6759 Esther Valdez 09/07/1984 Rio Arriba NM
MP14475 Lillian Holmes 03/22/1984 Los Angeles CA
MP6722 Michelle Thomas 10/05/1985 Galveston TX
MP14132 Patricia Osborn 10/20/1983 King WA (x2)
MP3979 Tinze Huels 10/27/1984 Tampa FL
Leslie Marty WV

Texas DPS

Case Number: U0801013
Agency: Inst of Forensic Sciences of Harris County
Date Found: 12-16-1985
Estimated Date of Death: 11-01-1984
Cause of Death: Gunshot wound to the head

Race: Unknown
Age: 18 - 26
Height: 5' 0 " - 5' 6 "
Eye Color: Unknown

Sex: Female

Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Black

City Found: Unknown
County Found: Unknown
State Found: Texas
Country Found: USA

Description:
The unidentified female may be African-American or she could possibly be of a mixed race with predominately Hispanic features. She had wavy black or brown hair about five inches long. She had a fracture of the eight rib. The victim was located approximately 50 yards east of the intersection of County Road 59 and County Road 94 in Brazoria County.

You can contact the Missing Persons Clearinghouse at:

Missing Persons Clearinghouse
Texas Department of Public Safety
P O Box 4087
Austin, Texas 78773-0422
Phone: (512) 424-5074
Helpline: (800) 346-3243

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NCMEC Jane Doe1985

Date Found: Dec 16, 1985
Location Found: Brazoria, TX
Estimated Age: 15-25
Sex: Female
Race: Hispanic
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Unknown
Estimated Height: 5'0" to 5'4"

On December 16, 1985, the skeletal remains of an unidentified female were located in a pasture approximately 50 yards east of the intersection of CR 59 and CR 94 in Pearland, Brazoria, Texas. Based on the condition of the remains, it is believed the female had likely been deceased approximately 6 months-1 year prior to discovery. The decedent was found wearing a size small red pullover sweater with � length sleeves ("Rafaella" brand), and blue jeans with a 28" inseam ("H.I.S." on label). She was also wearing a woman?s wrist watch with a square face and maroon leather band ("Q&Q" brand on face). The decedent had wavy brown and black hair, and was believed to be of Caucasian and Hispanic ancestry. The reconstruction feature above is an artist?s rendering of what the decedent may have looked like. Anyone with information should contact the Brazoria County Sheriff?s Office, reference case number 8546795, or the Harris County Institute of Forensic Science, reference case number PA85-0414.

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