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    don't have an IPOD, but I believe they vary in size depending on the model.

    I googled IPOD, and it lists one of the IPOD's as 4.7 X 6.8 X 6. Much larger than fits in a pocket.

    I don't know much about IPOD's, but do know there are various models. Some hold just music, other's pictures.

    I wonder how big JK's IPOD is, what color, etc.

    It sure does fit the size.

    I'll try and find BB's darkened Photo

    If you go to this link, just study the right hand, it is clenched, as if, something is in it, trust me. http://jenniferkesse.com/person/surv3.bmp

    darkened photo http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...sedarkened.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanandjim View Post
    Interesting thought. Of course, I couldn't see the object from BB's photo. If you have it, could you post a link again? Perhaps, my eyesight will be better the second go 'round.

    It would make sense for the perp to steal her IPOD as there is no way to distinguish one from the other. My only thought is that IPOD's are small. Why wouldn't he just put it in a pocket instead of carrying it?

    Of course, he could have been carrying it and listening to it, trying to appear casual as he was walking down the street. Who knows how a murderer thinks??
    Also, if you look at those pants, I don't think the pOI has pockets in those pants. To me, they seem like sweat pants, or work out pants.

    Or, as you said, it could simply be to listen to as he walked back to Mosaic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodAim View Post
    Yes! This scenario really makes sense to me too. When I looked at the aerial photos earlier this week I wondered if the POI was headed for his own car as he walked past the HOTG pool surv. camera.

    Didn't an aerial photo linked earlier in this thread show a row of parked cars in that area? If I remember, they were mostly white? LE? During the investigation? Otherwise, who would usually be assigned to park in that section? I'm going to take another look at the pic --- it would be interesting if it was a "staff parking area" or something.

    Wonder if he'd been watching Jennifer enough to be aware that her car was now back (after her trip) in its spot.

    POI seems young, athletic, and familiar and comfortable with her condo and other local dwellings... same guesses as always... worker, staff, looking clean-cut? or "official" with that cap? or like any workman, fitting right in. Does anyone else feel that the stiff way he seemed to hold in his arms in the pool surv. pic could be an identifying feature? Or is it just the way the camera caught him mid-stride?

    For my theory to work, the suspect would have had to have known Jennifer Kesse's address and also he would have to be familiar with her car or else the parking spaces at the Mosaic were marked with the condo numbers. It is likely that the suspect was at least somewhat familiar with the area.

    I agree that the suspect is in shape and fit. He was walking at a fast pace, according to those large strides shown on the photos from the surveillance cameras.

    People can make educated guesses regarding the suspect according to the way he was dressed, however, there is every possibility that the suspect was simply wearing casual clothing or else work out clothing out of his wardrobe.

    The suspect's stiff looking right arm swinging back in the second photo by the pool gate reminds me so much of my husband's arm. When he was a little boy my husband broke his arm at the elbow, the doctor didn't set the arm correctly and so as a result my husband's arm has that stiff, slightly abnormal look to it.

    By the way, that white car parked in the background of the surveillance photos was still parked there for many weeks after Jennifer was abducted. It must be a resident's car parked at Huntington On The Green.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Left, I think when Good Aim was talking about "more to the scent trail than we know" meant...maybe LE isn't telling us where the dog actually stopped.
    This actually is an excellent point! In the "Crimes in the News" forum, there is a case where a Lancaster County family was murdered. The police revealed that the dogs tracked the suspect(s) to a certain road. Then, they later revealed the actual store to which the suspect(s) were tracked. On that line of thinking, could the suspect in Jennifer's case actually have been tracked to her condo? I really wish that LE in this case would release more details.

    He could be a bike riding chef on a ship with ties to the spca and the cia for all we know!
    You may be closer than you realize with this guess! It makes perfect sense to me!!

    This isn't a contest of who is right, but of getting information gathered to truly help the investigation move forward and find Jennifer.
    Hopefully, everyone realizes this. Debating issues and ideas and stating our own is a good thing, IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leftcoast View Post
    Also, if you look at those pants, I don't think the pOI has pockets in those pants. To me, they seem like sweat pants, or work out pants.

    Or, as you said, it could simply be to listen to as he walked back to Mosaic.

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    And, holding an IPOD, could account for his stiff arm. IMO, you would hold your arm in a different manner when carrying something like an IPOD. I know that I do.


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    Nan

    One poster on this board who is very reliable said there is a rumor that the POI was tracked to JK's parking spot.

    Yes, I think it is good that everybody has their own theories.

    However, i think we should all keep an open mind. not everyone can be right or wrong.

    Whenever a majority agrees on something, we need to consider that good and hard, because getting a board to agree on anything is just about impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftcoast View Post
    don't have an IPOD, but I believe they vary in size depending on the model.

    I googled IPOD, and it lists one of the IPOD's as 4.7 X 6.8 X 6. Much larger than fits in a pocket.

    I don't know much about IPOD's, but do know there are various models. Some hold just music, other's pictures.

    I wonder how big JK's IPOD is, what color, etc.

    It sure does fit the size.

    I'll try and find BB's darkened Photo

    If you go to this link, just study the right hand, it is clenched, as if, something is in it, trust me. http://jenniferkesse.com/person/surv3.bmp

    darkened photo http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...sedarkened.jpg

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    I agree that his hand is clenched. Remember, when I said that was another reason that I thought that it was a military person because of the way that he was holding his hand (closed fingers). If I recall, that is the way that my husband was taught to hold his hands. At least, I know that he was taught to hold his hand closed by his pockets when standing.

    After looking at the photo, I don't think that he was actually listening to an IPOD as you would see the headphone cord; and I don't see anything like that in the photo.

    The pants still look like a military style cotton pant to me. Also, the gathering is not at the ankle but right above it. It looks like there is a strap or something intentionally put on the pant leg. A person riding a bike would do this to keep the pants out of the way, IMO.
    Last edited by nanandjim; 06-02-2007 at 11:35 PM.


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    This is for new people reading this thread and who may have never read this, or a similar article, before regarding the track the bloodhound followed.

    Link:
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    http://www.sptimes.com/2006/01/27/St...g_Orland.shtml

    Excerpt from above article:
    ..." The trail bypassed the complex's only entrance and led to a stretch of fence separating the public sidewalk from its private grounds. Once the 6 year old bloodhound entered the grounds, the dog picked up the scent inside the fence and went directly to a staircase leading to Kesse's second-floor condominium." ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by CatLynnette View Post
    This is for new people reading this thread and who may have never read this, or a similar article, before regarding the track the bloodhound followed....
    Thank you, Cat. I hadn't read this article. It says that the POI walked or ran back to her condo. So, I am really confused. Who would have the nerve to actually return that close to the scene of the crime. Anyone could have been there looking for Jennifer. Plus, did the trail just end there??? Where did this person go?? I'm assuming that the dog was hitting on the perp's scent as it went to the fence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nanandjim View Post
    Thank you, Cat. I hadn't read this article. It says that the POI walked or ran back to her condo. So, I am really confused. Who would have the nerve to actually return that close to the scene of the crime. Anyone could have been there looking for Jennifer. Plus, did the trail just end there??? Where did this person go?? I'm assuming that the dog was hitting on the perp's scent as it went to the fence.

    Hi,
    Scroll up and read my message above #206 for my own personal theory of what I think happened regarding the scent tracked by the bloodhound.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CatLynnette View Post
    Hi,
    Scroll up and read my message above #206 for my own personal theory of what I think happened regarding the scent tracked by the bloodhound.
    Interesting theory. So, is everyone assuming that Jennifer was targeted, that the suspect was actually intent on kidnapping her? It seems this way, doesn't it?


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    Interesting theory. So, is everyone assuming that Jennifer was targeted, that the suspect was actually intent on kidnapping her? It seems this way, doesn't it?
    It has always been my assumption, yes. I don't believe this was a random act. Random would have meant he didn't care about evidence being left behind, imo. He would have attacked her either right there or back in her condo then left her AND evidence. With no crime scene detected, he was careful not to leave evidence there or much in the car (maybe an accidental print).

    The fact the car was totally intact when returned to Drew K. tells me there was no blood or bodily fluid evidence present. Had there been a lot...the seats would have been taken out and the carpeting ripped up etc.
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    Balcony

    Did someone post earlier the possibility or fact that Jennifer used her cellphone out on the balcony for better reception? I haven't studied the layout of her condo development yet, but is there anyone in particular who'd have a direct view of her there? Where would someone hang out if they wanted to view balcony or see when she left the unit (closed the balcony slider?)


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    Quote Originally Posted by leftcoast View Post
    Not only that, but, if JK was in the habit of sending such items, she wouldn't have been calling around to places trying to find out where they are located and their hours. She would have already known the answer.

    I think sending off the cellphone, was not something JK did on a regular basis, and I would be surprised if she had a fedex or ups package at her home for such an occasion. Of course, I am only speculating.

    Regardless, my gut tells me that JK never left Mosaic on her own accord, and the cellphone sending is probably not a part of this crime. Of course, it is just my own opinion.

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    Hmm, only read a little of this conversation, but there was mention in the beginning, I think it was an inter view with her Mother who said the supplies were on her desk at home and that she sent packages of information to customer/clients from work. Seems like this is the information they talked about but then things/information change.


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    Even more important than whether she had overnight shipping packaging (and with UPS it's different than ground), is that she had to have an account # to write on it to charge the shipping to. That's the only way you can drop it in a box.

    She would have to have her own account, or know her company's account # and use it and pay them for it, or had an account # given to her by her brother's friend to use.

    The account # would have to be for the company she had packaging material for, if any.

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