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    JR lies right off the bat...

    ..and he can hardly get it out.Wonder why.
    I have never once seen or read where Thomas slanders JR's relationship w/ JonBenet.I wish the whole interview was on here.I don't know what else was said.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=0JF8BzrAtt4
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    Steve's hot. I've never seen him before.

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    I was thinking the same thing..lol,GMTA
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMO8778 View Post
    ..and he can hardly get it out.Wonder why.
    I have never once seen or read where Thomas slanders JR's relationship w/ JonBenet.I wish the whole interview was on here.I don't know what else was said.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=0JF8BzrAtt4

    I THINK what JR is referring to is Steve Thomas inferring that JR sexually abused JBR. I believe ST asked him about the shirt fibers in her panties, and the coroner's evidence of prior abuse. Somewhere in an interview on acandyrose is JR evading answering questions by accusing the inrerviewer of disgracing his relationship with JBR.
    Anyone here remember it? I don't do cut & paste, but if someone here has it, please post it, thanks.
    THIS time, we get it RIGHT!

    This post is my constitutionally-protected opinion. Please do not copy or take it anywhere else.

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    that's just it,I have never heard nor read ST accuse JR of abusing JB,in fact his book gives him a pass on all of that.
    If all he was doing was asking,then I don't call that accusing,although I'm sure JR twisted it around that way.If he didn't do anything wrong then those should have been easy questions to answer,no evasiveness needed.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    Someone here must know where JR's statement is where he says "you are disgracing my relationship with my daughter. You guys are so good at this.
    THIS time, we get it RIGHT!

    This post is my constitutionally-protected opinion. Please do not copy or take it anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega View Post
    Steve's hot. I've never seen him before.
    LOL....yeah he is.
    "This time we get it right."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    I THINK what JR is referring to is Steve Thomas inferring that JR sexually abused JBR. I believe ST asked him about the shirt fibers in her panties, and the coroner's evidence of prior abuse. Somewhere in an interview on acandyrose is JR evading answering questions by accusing the inrerviewer of disgracing his relationship with JBR.
    Anyone here remember it? I don't do cut & paste, but if someone here has it, please post it, thanks.
    DeeDee249,

    http://www.acandyrose.com/atl2000-in...ohn-ramsey.txt
    18 MR. LEVIN: Thank you, Mr. Wood.
    19 I appreciate the opportunity.
    20 MR. WOOD: Thank you.
    21 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mr. Ramsey, it is
    22 our belief based on forensic evidence that
    23 there are hairs that are associated, that the
    24 source is the collared black shirt that you
    25 sent us that are found in your daughter's
    0058
    1 underpants, and I wondered if you --
    2 A. ********. I don't believe that.
    3 I don't buy it. If you are trying to
    4 disgrace my relationship with my daughter --

    5 Q. Mr. Ramsey, I am not trying to
    6 disgrace --
    7 A. Well, I don't believe it. I
    8 think you are. That's disgusting.
    9 MR. WOOD: I think you --
    10 MR. LEVIN: I am not.
    11 MR. WOOD: Yes, you are.
    12 MR. LEVIN: And the follow-up
    13 question would be --
    14 MR. WOOD: Posing the question in
    15 light of what I said to you yesterday is
    16 nothing more than an attempt to make a
    17 record that unfairly, unjustly, and in a
    18 disgusting fashion points what you might
    19 consider to be some finger of blame at this
    20 man regarding his daughter, and you ought to
    21 be ashamed of yourself for doing it, Bruce.
    22 You knew we weren't going to
    23 answer the question. Why don't you just
    24 give us the report, and we'll put it out
    25 there for someone to look at and tell us
    0059
    1 what it says and see how fair and accurate
    2 you have been.
    3 I know why you said what you said
    4 yesterday about Patsy and the fibers and John
    5 and the fibers. And you know why you did
    6 it, Bruce. Because you want this somehow to
    7 get out and then people will read that and
    8 be prejudiced even further against this
    9 family.
    10 I just don't know why you want to
    11 do it, but I can't stop you.
    12 MR. LEVIN: Mr. Wood, if you
    13 would like to, I would challenge you to find
    14 any article anywhere that I have been quoted
    15 as giving an opinion or any statement to the
    16 press concerning this case.
    17 MR. WOOD: You don't have to be
    18 quoted. You don't have to be quoted.
    19 MR. LEVIN: Or any piece of
    20 evidence that I have released.
    21 MR. WOOD: You don't have to be
    22 quoted. You do not have to be quoted.
    23 MR. LEVIN: This is a murder
    24 investigation, and I am trying to get an
    25 explanation, which can be an innocent
    0060
    1 explanation.
    2 MR. WOOD: It could be, but you
    3 pose your question as if it's not not.
    4 That's what's unfair. Why don't you let us
    5 see the report so we can know exactly what's
    6 going on, exactly what other fibers were
    7 found in that area so that you don't
    8 unfairly cast an aspersion through innuendo
    9 or suggestion toward this man and his
    10 daughter.
    Also dont forget Patsy's reply to being informed that the boulder pathologists had concrete forensic evidence that JonBenet had been sexually molested prior to her death.

    "That's one of the things that's been bothering us about this case," Haney said.

    "No damned kidding," Patsy said.

    "What does it tell you"? Haney asked

    "It doesn't tell me anything! I'm...I don't...I...my...I just am shocked, is all I can say. And I don't...I don't know what to think. I mean I'm...I just wanna see where it says that."
    Steve Thomas requested search warrants to look for child pornography in the Ramsey properties.

    Detective Linda Arndt in a 2000 deposition stated that she considered John Ramsey as the the prime suspect and the likely molester of JonBenet?

    imo the evidence just keeps piling up ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKGuy View Post
    thx UK,I didn't think that was ST he was replying to.

    Also dont forget Patsy's reply to being informed that the boulder pathologists had concrete forensic evidence that JonBenet had been sexually molested prior to her death.
    and there is also her reply about how JR couldn't have molested JB when she was having her cancer treatments,bc her mother was right there in the same bedroom and wouldn't have allowed it.that's a really strange answer..sounds like she was attempting to cover for proof of any abuse that was found.

    Steve Thomas requested search warrants to look for child pornography in the Ramsey properties.
    .
    and rightly so,given the condition her body was found it,I would think it would be standard procedure,so if that's what JR is talking about,I don't call that slandering his relationship with her.It's just police work.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    Someone here must know where JR's statement is where he says "you are disgracing my relationship with my daughter. You guys are so good at this.
    I wasn't disagreeing with you,I just didn't think it was ST who asked;it was Levin,I just couldn't think of his name.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57


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    Thanks UKGuy....

    Quote Originally Posted by UKGuy View Post
    DeeDee249,

    http://www.acandyrose.com/atl2000-in...ohn-ramsey.txt


    Also dont forget Patsy's reply to being informed that the boulder pathologists had concrete forensic evidence that JonBenet had been sexually molested prior to her death.



    Steve Thomas requested search warrants to look for child pornography in the Ramsey properties.

    Detective Linda Arndt in a 2000 deposition stated that she considered John Ramsey as the the prime suspect and the likely molester of JonBenet?

    imo the evidence just keeps piling up ...
    Wow...thanks for posting this.

    "It doesn't tell me anything! I'm...I don't...I...my...I just am shocked, is all I can say. And I don't...I don't know what to think. I mean I'm...I just wanna see where it says that."

    Whoa Patsy, if you don't know anything, then why all the stuttering and stammering???

    I actually don't think that I have ever read this portion of her interview before. Thanks again for posting this.....
    "This time we get it right."

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKGuy View Post
    Detective Linda Arndt in a 2000 deposition stated that she considered John Ramsey as the the prime suspect and the likely molester of JonBenet?

    imo the evidence just keeps piling up ...
    But if detective Linda Arndt was so sure about John having been JonBenet's molester and killer, then why on earth did she later accept a bunch of flowers from the Ramseys, happily telling Steve Thomas that they were "from Patsy and John" ?? This does not mesh imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon View Post
    But if detective Linda Arndt was so sure about John having been JonBenet's molester and killer, then why on earth did she later accept a bunch of flowers from the Ramseys, happily telling Steve Thomas that they were "from Patsy and John" ?? This does not mesh imo.
    rashomon,

    Maybe she was sure all along, accepting flowers or gifts does not mean you have changed your mind or your opinion.

    I guess she came to see Patsy as a victim, she understood the dynamics of familial incest, so who knows what her motive was. Did Patsy charm her, spin her a tale of woe and depression, maybe she will reveal her thinking if she ever publishes her memoirs?


    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    Wow...thanks for posting this.

    "It doesn't tell me anything! I'm...I don't...I...my...I just am shocked, is all I can say. And I don't...I don't know what to think. I mean I'm...I just wanna see where it says that."

    Whoa Patsy, if you don't know anything, then why all the stuttering and stammering???

    I actually don't think that I have ever read this portion of her interview before. Thanks again for posting this.....
    Exactly. IMO, this is not the reaction of a woman who had no idea whatsoever that her daughter was being molested. She doesn't seem at all shocked about hearing of evidence of prior abuse, she seems indignant and defensive.

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    I agree, UKGuy, LA was probably swept up by the famous Patsy Ramsey charisma...I look forward to the upcoming book.

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