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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom View Post
    Great post, fran. And I agree with you that this case is going to be all about forensics. I do think Vaughn will stick to his story that he noticed he was bleeding and then he left and when he came back, his entire family was dead. Perhaps the defense will be left trying to prove that a "mysterious stranger" did all this.
    IIRC correctly, he has already given several different accounts of what happened. You watch, at trial he'll probably claim, "I blacked out, I don't know what happened."

    How many times have we seen this?

    JMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticchic View Post
    I ment the motion to interview the officer
    Oh, sorry - I read your post incorrectly.

    They'll definitely get to find out what the officer knows before trial if the pros is planning to call the officer - and I'm sure he is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    IIRC correctly, he has already given several different accounts of what happened. You watch, at trial he'll probably claim, "I blacked out, I don't know what happened."

    How many times have we seen this?

    JMHO
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    I think you do recall correctly and we sure have seen the "I blacked out" defense many many times. (of course, when you're guilty and not about to tell the truth, what else do you have to fall back on really....?)

    I mean I guess you could use the "I was abducted by aliens" defense but I don't think as many people would buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodibug View Post
    I agree.

    and I really, really hate these kinds of trials. Defense "experts" can be quite obnoxious, IMO.
    You mean like Dr. March (?) in the SP trial who was basing his 'analysis' on what Laci did NOT say at a baby shower.

    The pros questioning him didn't even realize at the time of his questioning just how much of an azz he made this guy look like, even when the 'expert' turned to the jury and said, "Give me a break!"

    LOL, that was a classic moment!

    The pros was so caught up in the moment, he didn't understand why the entire gallery was laughing at the end of questioning. Bridgett had to explain it to him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodibug View Post
    I agree.

    and I really, really hate these kinds of trials. Defense "experts" can be quite obnoxious, IMO.
    I remember that forensic evidence was very tell tale in the Darlie Routier trial and I do not recall if the defense had an expert that refuted the evidence in that trial....will have to go back and look at the transcripts....

    Forensic evidence trials can be very interesting, but they can also be exasperating if a million different experts say a million different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom View Post
    I doubt that attitude makes you evil. Plenty of people would agree with you, I'm just not one of them.

    I am grateful to live in a country where the judcial system is founded on a presumption of innocence, and then carried out through the benefit of a public trial with a pros and a defense. It's one of my favorite things about the US.

    It's quite true that his family didn't get a fair trial and probably died at the hand of his one-man justice. I'm glad our country behaves with a higher moral standard than he did - I expect more from us than I do from a common murderer.
    As much as I wish I felt like you do, I have to admit that I don't. I am tired of defendents having more rights than the victims themselves. I am tired of evidence that's "too prejudicial" (WTF?) If it points towards guilt, it points towards guilt, plain and simple. I will never ever understand how something can make one look 'too guilty'. If ALL evidence were allowed, then perhaps I would feel differently, but when stuff isn't allowed in because it points too much towards the guilt of the defendent, I just don't get it. And they call it justice? Allllllrighty then! I personally think nowadays it's something other than justice. I just can't think of a word for it that won't get me banned............


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    Quote Originally Posted by TallCoolOne View Post
    As much as I wish I felt like you do, I have to admit that I don't. I am tired of defendents having more rights than the victims themselves. I am tired of evidence that's "too prejudicial" (WTF?) If it points towards guilt, it points towards guilt, plain and simple. I will never ever understand how something can make one look 'too guilty'. If ALL evidence were allowed, then perhaps I would feel differently, but when stuff isn't allowed in because it points too much towards the guilt of the defendent, I just don't get it. And they call it justice? Allllllrighty then! I personally think nowadays it's something other than justice. I just can't think of a word for it that won't get me banned............
    For the most part, I respect the way the Rules of Evidence work and I respect most of the Court's decisions regarding evidence.

    It's surely not a perfect system, but, in my opinion, it's the best one around and, more often than not, it works really well.

    There are always exceptions to that rule, of course, because we are human and we muck things up fairly easily - and these exceptions can be truly maddening! But I am very pleased with it overall.
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    Vaughn will be extradited to Illinois

    ~snip~

    Christopher Vaughn appeared in court briefly today and told a judge in St. Charles, Missouri, that he had consulted with attorneys before making his decision.

    ~snip~

    Attorneys say Vaughn could be moved to Illinois as early as tonight, but will almost certainly be moved by tomorrow.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...cal&id=5445079


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    Dad waives extradition from Missouri in family killing case

    Christopher Vaughn today gave up his battle in Missouri to fight his forced return to Illinois to face charges that he murdered his wife and three school-age children in the family sport-utility vehicle.

    Vaughn, 32, of Oswego, waived extradition in Missouri before St. Charles County Judge Terry Cundiff, clearing the way for Illinois State Police to transport him to the Will County Jail in Joliet, where he could have a bond hearing as soon as Thursday.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...l=chi-news-hed


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    According to the St. Charles County Jail records, Vaughn has been transferred. :-P

    Offender Record
    Last Name: VAUGHN Custody Status: Transferred
    First Name: CHRISTOPHER DOUGLAS Agency: Unknown
    Date of Birth: 09/26/1974 Race: White
    Offender ID: 2007078067 Gender: Male
    I respectfully ask not to be called "candy" or "rose" as my screen name is ACandyRose (aka ACR)
    Remember, when telling a secret, that your best friend may have a best friend who is not your best friend.

    Erica Lynn Parsons Missing Timeline (Salisbury, NC)
    http://www.acandyrose.com/erica_parsons_timeline.htm

    Drew Peterson Trial 07/31/12 (Will he get a 2nd Trial?)
    http://www.acandyrose.com/drew_peterson_names.htm
    Casey Anthony's 31 Days Timeline Archive
    http://www.acandyrose.com/casey_anthony_31days.htm
    JonBenet Ramsey Case History Archive
    http://www.acandyrose.com/s-Flight755-15thStreet.htm


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    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...9?OpenDocument

    Vaughn returning to Ill. to face murder charges

    By Shane Anthony


    ST. CHARLES -- Christopher Vaughn ended his extradition challenge this afternoon, and he is on his way to Will County, Ill.

    He left the St. Charles County jail just after 3:30 p.m. in the back of an Illinois State Police car.


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    Wonder how long the ride is? I'm also curious if he's going to have a group of people at the location they're delivering him to greet him like they did SP with Laci?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    Wonder how long the ride is? I'm also curious if he's going to have a group of people at the location they're delivering him to greet him like they did SP with Laci?

    fran
    Does he have groupies, fran? Not yet - I don't think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACandyRose View Post
    According to the St. Charles County Jail records, Vaughn has been transferred. :-P

    Offender Record
    Last Name: VAUGHN Custody Status: Transferred
    First Name: CHRISTOPHER DOUGLAS Agency: Unknown
    Date of Birth: 09/26/1974 Race: White
    Offender ID: 2007078067 Gender: Male
    Thanks, acandyrose.
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    Vaughn is officially at the Will Co Jail

    Vaughn is at his new home :-P

    http://publicrecords.onlinesearches.com/IL_Will.htm

    Offender Record
    Last Name: VAUGHN Custody
    Status: In Custody
    First Name: CHRISTOPHER DOUGLASS
    Agency: Will County Jail
    Date of Birth: 09/26/1974
    Race: White
    Offender ID: 20070006095
    Gender: Male

    Agency Description Will County Jail
    Address 1 14 West Jefferson Street
    City Joliet State/Province IL Zip Code 60432
    County WILL
    Phone (815) 740-1250
    I respectfully ask not to be called "candy" or "rose" as my screen name is ACandyRose (aka ACR)
    Remember, when telling a secret, that your best friend may have a best friend who is not your best friend.

    Erica Lynn Parsons Missing Timeline (Salisbury, NC)
    http://www.acandyrose.com/erica_parsons_timeline.htm

    Drew Peterson Trial 07/31/12 (Will he get a 2nd Trial?)
    http://www.acandyrose.com/drew_peterson_names.htm
    Casey Anthony's 31 Days Timeline Archive
    http://www.acandyrose.com/casey_anthony_31days.htm
    JonBenet Ramsey Case History Archive
    http://www.acandyrose.com/s-Flight755-15thStreet.htm


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