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    Please Consider this

    This may not be the right place to post this, but I am hoping all will understand and if we could get some help from the powers that be, it would be much appreciated..

    I think this is a great board with lots of information and for the most part, excellent posters. Rarely, do I see anyone who has not contributed in some way, either by disagreeing or agreeing, and therefore a whole new line of discussion happens, which is noteworthy.

    I just learned that because of a change in an e-mail address, any long-standing poster can be banned, because there is a list of "not wanted" addresses. Unfortunately, this is sometimes due to something beyond the poster's control and I would like to suggest that some latitude be given to those posters who have been here and have been posting without incident and also have given some valuable insight to the case. I would hate to lose someone just because his or her e-mail has been changed.

    Can't a list be made of those who are here already and respected and if such a change is made, that poster will be given the latitude he or she deserves.

    Thanks for your attention. Solace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    This may not be the right place to post this, but I am hoping all will understand and if we could get some help from the powers that be, it would be much appreciated..

    I think this is a great board with lots of information and for the most part, excellent posters. Rarely, do I see anyone who has not contributed in some way, either by disagreeing or agreeing, and therefore a whole new line of discussion happens, which is noteworthy.

    I just learned that because of a change in an e-mail address, any long-standing poster can be banned, because there is a list of "not wanted" addresses. Unfortunately, this is sometimes due to something beyond the poster's control and I would like to suggest that some latitude be given to those posters who have been here and have been posting without incident and also have given some valuable insight to the case. I would hate to lose someone just because his or her e-mail has been changed.

    Can't a list be made of those who are here already and respected and if such a change is made, that poster will be given the latitude he or she deserves.

    Thanks for your attention. Solace
    I know the poster that you are referring to...they did contact the administrator....but, I don't know if they heard anything back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    I know the poster that you are referring to...they did contact the administrator....but, I don't know if they heard anything back.

    Really nice and I would hate to see this person gone. Truly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solace View Post
    Really nice and I would hate to see this person gone. Truly.
    Please pm me I am missing a certain poster? Is that what happened? Can we do anything?

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    Solace, I'm guessing here, but has this poster gone to a web-based (i.e. hotmail or yahoo) email address, or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishMist View Post
    Solace, I'm guessing here, but has this poster gone to a web-based (i.e. hotmail or yahoo) email address, or something?
    Hello All,

    I believe I am the person Solace and Ames are referring to. I've already contacted coloradokares, however, since my e-mail address is banned, I have no idea whether CK will receive it or not.

    Neither the old or new e-dress was hotmail or yahoo or other disguised e-mail address.

    Thanks to all for their concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOESP View Post
    Hello All,

    I believe I am the person Solace and Ames are referring to. I've already contacted coloradokares, however, since my e-mail address is banned, I have no idea whether CK will receive it or not.

    Neither the old or new e-dress was hotmail or yahoo or other disguised e-mail address.

    Thanks to all for their concern.
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    A moderator will get back to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOESP View Post
    Hello All,

    I believe I am the person Solace and Ames are referring to. I've already contacted coloradokares, however, since my e-mail address is banned, I have no idea whether CK will receive it or not.

    Neither the old or new e-dress was hotmail or yahoo or other disguised e-mail address.

    Thanks to all for their concern.

    I did get it thanks I hope we can see you soon. I see a moderator is looking into it at last word. CK

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    I'm confused. I don't have a hotmail or yahoo address, but why would it be a problem if anyone did? Is there a problem with those providers as far as compatibility with the board?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    I'm confused. I don't have a hotmail or yahoo address, but why would it be a problem if anyone did? Is there a problem with those providers as far as compatibility with the board?
    I'm not exactly sure, but I think it has something to do with keeping people from posting under more than one hat, or signing up as someone else once banned... that type of thing.

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    Oh I see. I am on the eBay boards, too and EVERYONE there has lots of IDs. Makes it crazy. And when they carry on confrontational conversations with themselves it REALLY makes me crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    Oh I see. I am on the eBay boards, too and EVERYONE there has lots of IDs. Makes it crazy. And when they carry on confrontational conversations with themselves it REALLY makes me crazy.
    LOL!! I've seen that, too! Isn't it odd what some folks do??

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    There are a lot of trolls there. (eBay).
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    The reason why some e-mail addys are not allowed is because they are "anonymous". WS has a set of procedures in place which have been worked out with the help of our lawyers and technical advisors so that we can provide the highest level of protection for the forum and its members. We don't ask members to pay or to provide a list of personal information. All we require is that members use an e-mail account which is not "anonymous" so that in the unlikely event that we need to trace a troublemaker, we can do so.

    We cannot make different rules for different members and although it is fair to say that some members have proved themselves to be well-behaved over time, given the high number of our membership, it would be an administrative nightmare to assess each case on its own merit. (It's not unknown for a long-standing member to go "off the rails" too!)

    We hope that members will understand that this rule is for the good of the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBRMod2 View Post
    The reason why some e-mail addys are not allowed is because they are "anonymous". WS has a set of procedures in place which have been worked out with the help of our lawyers and technical advisors so that we can provide the highest level of protection for the forum and its members. We don't ask members to pay or to provide a list of personal information. All we require is that members use an e-mail account which is not "anonymous" so that in the unlikely event that we need to trace a troublemaker, we can do so.

    We cannot make different rules for different members and although it is fair to say that some members have proved themselves to be well-behaved over time, given the high number of our membership, it would be an administrative nightmare to assess each case on its own merit. (It's not unknown for a long-standing member to go "off the rails" too!)

    We hope that members will understand that this rule is for the good of the forum.

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    I understand your rules but my e-mail address isn't anonymous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBRMod2 View Post
    The reason why some e-mail addys are not allowed is because they are "anonymous". WS has a set of procedures in place which have been worked out with the help of our lawyers and technical advisors so that we can provide the highest level of protection for the forum and its members. We don't ask members to pay or to provide a list of personal information. All we require is that members use an e-mail account which is not "anonymous" so that in the unlikely event that we need to trace a troublemaker, we can do so.

    We cannot make different rules for different members and although it is fair to say that some members have proved themselves to be well-behaved over time, given the high number of our membership, it would be an administrative nightmare to assess each case on its own merit. (It's not unknown for a long-standing member to go "off the rails" too!)

    We hope that members will understand that this rule is for the good of the forum.

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    Thanks for explanation. I for one am grateful for the protection from those whose intent is to harass, there are those troublemakers and they complicate things for us all. Thanks for the goodwork you do in protecting us. Thanks again coloradokares

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradokares View Post
    Thanks for explanation. I for one am grateful for the protection from those whose intent is to harass, there are those troublemakers and they complicate things for us all. Thanks for the goodwork you do in protecting us. Thanks again coloradokares
    CK, while I appreciate the explanation as well, it still doesn't explain why my e-mail address is blocked because I don't have an anonymous address. I certainly have not harassed any one, caused trouble, or complicated anything. I don't expect to have exceptions made for me but based on the Moderator's statement, I don't fit the exclusion claim.

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    Thanks for the explanation, makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOESP View Post
    CK, while I appreciate the explanation as well, it still doesn't explain why my e-mail address is blocked because I don't have an anonymous address. I certainly have not harassed any one, caused trouble, or complicated anything. I don't expect to have exceptions made for me but based on the Moderator's statement, I don't fit the exclusion claim.
    I agree that you have done nothing to create the situation. I just undertstand that harrasment by those who would come only to be hateful trolls have to be stopped. I personally went through living hell thanks to one in particular, the grief was not bearable. I am sure more than one forum member remembers that. I am grateul that they were able to stop that for me and double grateful they did. Sorry that hurts good people .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOESP View Post
    I understand your rules but my e-mail address isn't anonymous.
    I think what is meant by anonymous is the fact that some e-mail providers allow you to sign up for a free account with dummy info. Although this doesn't mean you would necessarily do that, the fact is you can and there's no way to know if the info is real or dummy.

    Some of these providers also have a universal IP number which isn't helpful in locating a troublemaker. It's not impossible to track someone if they use anonymous services - but it can be made a lot harder (and expensive) to do so.

    My understanding is that the e-mails which are considered "anonymous" are Hotmail, Gmail, AOL etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradokares View Post
    I agree that you have done nothing to create the situation. I just undertstand that harrasment by those who would come only to be hateful trolls have to be stopped. I personally went through living hell thanks to one in particular, the grief was not bearable. I am sure more than one forum member remembers that. I am grateul that they were able to stop that for me and double grateful they did. Sorry that hurts good people .
    Are you referring to the hot one by any chance? I believe that he is posting on another forum. I based my opinion on several things:-

    1) the fact that the hat at the other forum referred specifically (and mischieviously) to the hat here in one of his posts
    2) the fact that very similar statements were made by both posters
    3) the fact that both posters made the same spelling error
    4) one other reason

    I consider it odd that this person would post as a particularly vicious RDI here and a vehement IDI on another forum. To me, that is game-playing and a sign of a sick mind.

    I did "challenge" the poster at the other forum and he denied it (of course) .... but, he thinks that the first three reasons were all I was going on.

    However, the following facts should be noted:-

    1) This person posted several images at the other forum
    2) Images have properties
    3) An active member's e-mail addy can be downloaded by other members if that setting is not disabled
    4) I'm not a betting girl, but I'd put money on them being the same person!

    What interests me is the high regard that many (most?) of the IDI posters at the other forum have for this guy. I'm not sure whether they just accept his Ramsey devotion as given and that's enough or whether they don't care about his game playing or whether they do know abut his game playing and approve of it.

    I'm glad this forum weeds out the troublemakers and sees them off :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    I think what is meant by anonymous is the fact that some e-mail providers allow you to sign up for a free account with dummy info. Although this doesn't mean you would necessarily do that, the fact is you can and there's no way to know if the info is real or dummy.

    Some of these providers also have a universal IP number which isn't helpful in locating a troublemaker. It's not impossible to track someone if they use anonymous services - but it can be made a lot harder (and expensive) to do so.

    My understanding is that the e-mails which are considered "anonymous" are Hotmail, Gmail, AOL etc.
    Jayelles, yes, what you describe is, I think, what the Moderators are calling an anonymous address. However, that is NOT what I have. I have a paid e-mail address, paid directly to a telephone company with a real name and physical address. If I were as suspicious of me and my postings as the moderators seem to be, I'd get a court order and see where it leads.

    Regardless, if I am under that kind of suspicion here I neither need or want to be a member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOESP View Post
    Jayelles, yes, what you describe is, I think, what the Moderators are calling an anonymous address. However, that is NOT what I have. I have a paid e-mail address, paid directly to a telephone company with a real name and physical address. If I were as suspicious of me and my postings as the moderators seem to be, I'd get a court order and see where it leads.

    Regardless, if I am under that kind of suspicion here I neither need or want to be a member.
    It should be OK then. Did you e-mail the mods? Any e-mail addy that is paid for isn't anonymous.
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    I guess I don't understand what the problem is. I thought the paid email address was a requirement to register for WS. If you guys are posting, then your email must be good?

    I'm wondering if this is a problem with your options in your user cp? (user control panel)

    Sorry. I'm just finding this to be very confusing!

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