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    Unwanted Birth Control Advice Leads To 76 yr Old Woman Being Banned From Bus

    I couldn't help but laugh..this woman sounds like a character...I bet she speaks her mind on EVERYTHING! But would I wanna her her "advice" to me? H*ll no!

    LOGAN, Utah A 76-year-old woman has been barred from the bus station after giving unwanted birth-control advice to mothers with large families.
    "I think it's wrong. It's a violation of my First Amendment rights," Laura Stevens said.
    She was arrested Tuesday for trespassing, a misdemeanor, according to police records.
    "She's been making comments to some of the Hispanic passengers that they should be on the pill, that they're taking over our society," said Todd Beutler, general manager of the Cache Valley Transit District.
    "The passengers have a right to ride and not be intimidated," he said.
    Stevens said she recently noticed a mother struggling to control her six children.
    "I felt sorry for her. Maybe she doesn't know that she could get a patch and not have a kid for five years," Stevens said.
    She said she will fight the trespassing charge when she appears in Logan's Municipal Court on Tuesday.
    "We want her to ride the bus," Beutler said. "We just need to make sure that she's not harassing any other passengers."
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287274,00.html

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    While I certainly wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of her dribble, nor do I agree with her dictating lifestyle changes to people she doesn't even know, I just bet this woman lives on for many many years to come. She'l probably surpass the centurian mark for sure---she does have gusto and is quite spry.

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    Sounds like she's racist too by saying that "they're" taking over our society after targeting Hispanic mothers who have kids with them on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txsvicki View Post
    Sounds like she's racist too by saying that "they're" taking over our society after targeting Hispanic mothers who have kids with them on the bus.
    Absolutely. I have found quite a few elderly folks to be racist. It's how they were raised.

    The thing is, she has no right to complain to the lady on the bus with the kids. So what if she has 6 kids with her. Who's to say they're all hers, anyway? Even if they are, so what? For all she knows she could be watching her sisters kids, too. Either way, it's just none of this ladys business.

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    Hell yeah! You go granny! I love a woman with moxy!

    Advice from the elderly is a good thing, imo. Experience is the best tool for obtaining knowledge.

    I think she has every right to speak her mind.
    I'll probaly get flamed for saying so but.....especially if our/her tax dollars are going towards the support of these breed sow mothers, which I hate to say is more often than not the case. Our Earth is over-populated enough!

    Maybe not a racist, but a realist.
    Bet granny would give a white girl with a gaggle of kids the same thing....especially if they were hard to control. Elderly people do not appreciate rudeness in children. Unfortunately, our world has turned into a much less refined place than what it was back in their day....when manners and well behaved children mattered.

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    The woman lives in Utah - where large families are the norm - I wonder if she would go after a mormon family with such bravado?
    If the people she is addressing are catholic - suggesting birth control could be highly offensive. I think she is most likely a racist as well.

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    If these Hispanic woman and those stuggling with their kids were illegal would her comments be racist then?

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    I don't think harrassment really falls under First Amendment Rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rino View Post
    If these Hispanic woman and those stuggling with their kids were illegal would her comments be racist then?

    Yes, why wouldn't they?

    This women commented because the mother was hispanic ... Her legal status has nothing to do with it.
    What she said was not cute nor did it show moxy ... It was rude and showed how ignorant this women was and her age has nothing to do with it.
    My guess is that she has always been a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann View Post
    Yes, why wouldn't they?

    This women commented because the mother was hispanic ... Her legal status has nothing to do with it.
    What she said was not cute nor did it show moxy ... It was rude and showed how ignorant this women was and her age has nothing to do with it.
    My guess is that she has always been a racist.
    From the article:
    Stevens said she recently noticed a mother struggling to control her six children.
    "I felt sorry for her. Maybe she doesn't know that she could get a patch and not have a kid for five years," Stevens said .

    This just does not sound racist to me. The accusation that she made several remarks to several other hispanic woman is at this point just a accusation. Because of the article we assume the woman she's talking about is indeed Hipanic. We do not know who complained or to the extent of her comments. To haul off and call her racist, but not question the motives of others seems knee-jerk reation to me. Maybe the racists are the ones offended by one simple comment made about one woman who struggled with kids about birth control use.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann View Post
    Yes, why wouldn't they?

    This women commented because the mother was hispanic ... Her legal status has nothing to do with it.
    What she said was not cute nor did it show moxy ... It was rude and showed how ignorant this women was and her age has nothing to do with it.
    My guess is that she has always been a racist.
    I love a woman with moxyy too, but this woman just sounds rude. The comment that "they're taking over our society" is telling as to her views.

    In any event, she is 72, so her antiquated beliefs will pass on soon enough.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southcitymom View Post
    I love a woman with moxyy too, but this woman just sounds rude. The comment that "they're taking over our society" is telling as to her views.

    In any event, she is 72, so her antiquated beliefs will pass on soon enough.

    Just my 2 cents.

    As is often the case I totally agree with you!!

    Rino ...
    You posted ..
    "Maybe the racists are the ones offended by one simple comment made about one woman who struggled with kids about birth control use"

    I don't understand what you meant by this. Would you be kind enough to ellborate please?
    Also why would you take at face value what they quoted her as saying but not what the others reported that implicate she is racist, all from the same article?
    Its been my experience that racists hardly ever fess up to their comments on a public platform.
    I could easily see someone making some snide ignorant comment then twisting their own words to omit that when it becomes public.

    Why would the mother or others within hearing range make it up?

    I would personally find the comment about the BC in and of itself offensive albeit not racist.
    It is simple ignorance to presume to summerize a persons life situation based upon a chance encounter at the Bus station. As pointed out above those children may not have all been hers.
    We have touched on this subject often on the "What Is autism" thread in the JR.
    My child does not "look" autistic so a meltdown in the grocery store has at times brought comments or disgusted stares from people equally as ignorant and quick to judge as this women... All done without a clue as to why that happend .. just the presumption that he was a spoiled brat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rino View Post
    From the article:
    Stevens said she recently noticed a mother struggling to control her six children.
    "I felt sorry for her. Maybe she doesn't know that she could get a patch and not have a kid for five years," Stevens said .

    This just does not sound racist to me.....
    Maybe not, but this does:

    "She's been making comments to some of the Hispanic passengers that they should be on the pill, that they're taking over our society," said Todd Beutler, general manager of the Cache Valley Transit District.

    What's more likely: that this 72-year-old really believes that a grown-ass woman with children doesn't know about birth control and could use her kind grandmotherly wisdom OR that this 72-year-old women is fearful that more Hispanics are moving into this society and these changes frighten her so she strikes out at the representation of her fears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann View Post
    As is often the case I totally agree with you!!

    Rino ...
    You posted ..
    "Maybe the racists are the ones offended by one simple comment made about one woman who struggled with kids about birth control use"

    I don't understand what you meant by this. Would you be kind enough to ellborate please?
    It is very likely that all she said was the comment about the woman struggling with 6 kids, it is also very likey that they were indeed her children. I too agree that it would be rude, offensive and nosey, but not racist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann View Post
    Also why would you take at face value what they quoted her as saying but not what the others reported that implicate she is racist, all from the same article?
    Only because the others were heresay, not quotes from other woman who she spoke to or about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann View Post

    Why would the mother or others within hearing range make it up?
    Because they found it offensive and believed they had the "right" to do something about it.

    My husband took my mis-behaving 2 1/2 year old son to the car and sat with him bawling, while my other kids and I finished dinner. He was misbehaving and being disciplined. Another nosey, probably well intentioned, diner called the police and we had to defend our actions because of her "right" to do fix what she found inapporpriate. My husband was taken aside, my son was removed until I was found, my other children were frightend - never mind being embarrassed... all this becuase accusations have to be investigated. (But, it did fix my son, he thought they were there for him )


    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann View Post
    I would personally find the comment about the BC in and of itself offensive albeit not racist.
    It is simple ignorance to presume to summerize a persons life situation based upon a chance encounter at the Bus station.
    I totally agree, but the knife cuts both ways. This could all be a result of one chance encounter at a Bus stop and now she is painted a racist. She may be, but I am willing to wait the story out.

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    Just for the record....IF she is being racist, I don't condone that at all.
    I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would judge anyone on the color of their skin....

    however, though the elderly lady may have stated her opinion in a very crass and rude way, we have a whole nation up in arms over border patrol and immigration....which pretty much comes down to that same point.
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