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    Thanks ES. I PM'd UK some additional info to look for.

    It's just a matter of whether imposter or not. I just don't know, but seems elaborate for imposter. For example, I posted an article about a local Kissimmee imposter, and getup for that guy was not even close to this.

    And where does the suspect go, back down Conroy to the Mosaic? I doubt it, but the tracking (scenting) dog did. I can't see the guy getting on a bus there at Texas and Americana, and unless he lived in a local nearby apartment complex on Texas or Americana, I don't know where else he would go, assuming he parked nearby the Mosaic and planned this.

    It has never made sense to me. But this does change perception, no doubt in my mind.

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    rd... definitely a possibility, but at the same time, there would be fingerprints in Jenn's car. Is it not true that LE has to be fingerprinted? Wouldn't they match anything in the system? Just a thought.
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    Any experienced person is not going to leave fingerprints (i.e. latex gloves). When it could have been an illegal immigrant, then ok, left fingerprints, none on record, etc.

    But no way this guy would leave fingerprints in the car, or that LE has one and can't make a match, IMO.

    I consider the sole source statement of this as passed on to Fox News (IIRC) to be very vague, and possibly deliberately misleading.

    But you're right. If they had one, they'd have made a match.

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    I do feel that they have dna evidence and prints. Reason being is that it has been stated a few different times. At least for the prints. It might be a partial, it might be a ton of prints, it might be one. But they do have something. Listen to the interview with the Kesse's about the delay in entering in dna and fingerprints into the national database by the FBI... that it could take 2-3 years before being entered. It's just a shame that it might take that long to get any answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rd_jfc View Post
    It's just a matter of whether imposter or not. I just don't know, but seems elaborate for imposter. For example, I posted an article about a local Kissimmee imposter, and getup for that guy was not even close to this.
    I came to that conclusion too, too perfect for an imposter.

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    RE: DNA

    Thing that makes me suspicious of the DNA report.

    It was only one channel, Fox, and they didn't give out where the DNA sample came from, meaning, was it a piece of hair, blood, bodily fluids, sweat, cigarette, soda can, etc.

    Plus, why haven't the other stations run the story? or have I missed it?

    When LE accidentially released the video of the POI parking the car, all media outlets kept the video secret from the public.

    Now, we have a leak from within LE about DNA? And to only one station? And that one station, Fox, runs the story, without first considering burning whoever gave them the tip? or jeopardizing the investigation? Just seems inconsistent to me. I'm not saying it isn't true, but, makes me wonder.

    Plus, given the cleanliness of the crime, lack of leads, no mention of anyone being asked for a DNA sample (other than Joyce Kesse, for other reasons), it just makes me wonder if LE does in fact have the POI's DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UCFAlumni2002 View Post
    I do feel that they have dna evidence and prints. Reason being is that it has been stated a few different times. At least for the prints. It might be a partial, it might be a ton of prints, it might be one. But they do have something. Listen to the interview with the Kesse's about the delay in entering in dna and fingerprints into the national database by the FBI... that it could take 2-3 years before being entered. It's just a shame that it might take that long to get any answers.
    I agree with your frustration!
    The suspect in this case could be in jail right now for another offense and no one would know until this information is entered into the database.

    We can build a space station but we can't find people to enter simple information into a database in a timely manner.

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    It's consistant banging my head against the wall, but I feel confident that they have DNA and fingerprint evidence. Although not widely covered by every single news station, I know that when I've heard the Kesse's talk, one of their frustrations is the fact that they have information but just no match. We really need to get laws passed that a) treat missing people no matter what the situation as missing people, rather then presumed "needed to get away" until evidence points otherwise. b) We need to do DNA testing on human remains c) We need fingerprints and DNA entered into the National Database within a timely fashion- not 2-3 years later.
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    Also- the POI is no longer the POI- he/she is now the SUSPECT
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    I agree with these goals, I think almost everyone does, and I hope it turns into action soon.

    Things are clearly in bad shape. I am a computer programmer, and I track failed government software projects. Nearly everything in last several years has failed to become working systems that are required by law to be in place and working.

    However, under the broad umbrella of "there's a backlog of data to enter into crime databases, for want of an entered fingerprint/DNA we have no match, but may someday get a match for this forensic evidence they're sitting on", I would say in one way, yes, there's always new data to enter, and if there's no match now, there may be in the future.

    But one, I don't believe they have anyone else's forensic evidence from the car but Jennifer's (as in, "we believe she was in or near her car when attacked"), and two, if they did, I believe that anyone who would match up is not a relatively recent arrival to the country in the "backlog" of fingerprint data entery.

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    Just a note: Tampa, FL LE caught a kidnapper on the highway. Details are still sketchy, but was just a flash on Fox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Just a note: Tampa, FL LE caught a kidnapper on the highway. Details are still sketchy, but was just a flash on Fox.
    Any update on this? Thanks!

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    http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/ne...n-from-pickup/

    FHP Rescues Bound Woman From SUV
    Posted Jul 12, 2007 by Loren Omoto
    Updated Jul 12, 2007 at 04:05 PM
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    The Florida Highway Patrol charged a Tampa man with armed kidnapping and battery after a motorist reported seeing a woman bound and gagged in his sport utility vehicle.
    Trooper Larry Coggins said about 2 p.m., the highway patrol received a Star FHP call reporting that a woman in a white Chevy Blazer appeared to be bound and gagged.
    The troopers pulled over the Blazer on the ramp leading from Interstate 4 to northbound 275 and saw the woman with duct tape over her mouth in the back seat.
    The driver was identified as Marcus A. Young, 54, of Tampa.
    The woman is 35, from Panama City.
    Coggins did not identify her. She told troopers she was walking in the Ybor area when Young, who is an acquaintance, pulled up and began having an argument with her. He then bound and gagged her and put her in the vehicle.
    The woman is being checked out at a local hospital, said Coggins and they are sending a special investigator to talk to her to get more details from her.
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    wow, thats one lucky, lucky woman.

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    Yes and I will be interested to know what she can tell them. How he got gained control, got her in the vehicle, etc.

    I want to know what he is saying, if anything.
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