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    WI - The Capital City Murders - UNSOLVED

    I thought it would be a better idea for us to discuss those cases here instead of on individual threads of missing/murdered women from WI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ang50 View Post
    Whether this is connected to the case or not - Madison has never solved a series of murders of young women from 1967-1984...

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...ison_wi/1.html
    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    What IF...we are looking at a serial killing? Specifically...the killings taking place from 1968-84?

    I just researched all the places they found those bodies and the similarities of the cases: Females, 17-24yo, 3+ had left bar area in Madison, most found in wooded areas, all with ties to UW, except 1...all found within 14 miles of Madison.

    Sound familiar?
    Kelly fits into the category above in several ways.

    Might not be so farfetched actually. If the perp were a younger student back in 68...he would be in his mid/late 50s now. (Certainly not too old for a serial killer.)

    It would also mean this investigation would have to be meticulously done if it is at all possible they could be related. I would think they would have to take everything into account. It might explain a lot of why this was handled with extra caution and under the huge umbrella of the different agencies.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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    Here are more discussions from KN's thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ang50 View Post
    I just through the serial murders out there as a possibility - my guess would be more as a copycat, and not necessarily the same guy.

    The other similarity I see is the Dierdre Harm case. (See this same forum discussion.) Dierdre disappeared after a night of drinking in downtown Wisconsin Rapids (about 1 1/2 hours north of Madison). Her body was found months later in a secluded, wooded area. No suspects have been found, but police do have a sketch of a person of interest.
    Diedre Harm's Discussion: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44971

    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    If the perp were a young student back then...20 years could be spent raising a family, creating a bonified career, and becoming an outstanding member of the community. He could be a civic leader, a professor, a wealthy land developer, a teacher, a preacher, or even a dog catcher.

    Maybe there wasn't a 20 year cooling off period. The perp could have moved during that time and continued elsewhere. (The last known killing in '84 was far north of the rest and out his comfort zone which I thought was quite different.)
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    I keep going back to review the serial killings from 68-84. I wish I could find more information on them.
    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...ison_wi/1.html

    I know I have said this before, but Kelly's case fits too well. It also fits the cases of Sarah Gonstead, Diedra Hall (except her location), and Angela Drake. It makes me wonder how many more there could be out there.
    http://www.truthinjustice.org/penny.htm http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ori...edre_harm.html

    The similarities I found in all the cases: Females, 17-24yo, 6+ had left bar area in Madison, most found in wooded areas, all with ties to UW, except 2...all found within 14 miles of Madison. 5 happened in early July and 5 in late spring. Out of all of those, 4 had been stabbed, no cod on 3, 1 blunt instrument,1 burned. Sarah was shot, but found near Mineral Point Road.

    Here is what the coroner said in 1999:
    Deputy Coroner David Scullion gave an interview to the Portage County Gazette in which he said, “I personally feel there are several similarities. The patterns are wooded areas, off the road aways in concealed area(s).”

    It is also interesting to note that each victim was young, wore her hair long and parted it in the same manner -- eerily reminiscent of Ted Bundy’s victims -- and all of the victims were found within a short distance of Madison. In addition, they were all somehow associated with the University of Wisconsin either through classes, employment or living at a campus residence.

    It’s not always clear that the murders have really stopped and the killer is not just in some cooling-off period or is perhaps disposing of the victims in a way that their remains will not be found. What is probably called for is a an additional two-pronged investigation to determine from missing persons’ reports whether the killer may still be active and covering up the evidence of his crimes and, if he is not determined to be active, what may account for the murders ending in November of 1984.
    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...ison_wi/4.html
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    I would say 3 full days on a crime scene going over every single inch of the grounds and soil would be expected. They already said it was multi-jurisdictional. They pulled out all the stops on this one with major forensic teams.

    I have even found a suspect for them to take a serious look at. Remember, I said he could be mid/late 50s, raising a family, creating a bonified career, and becoming an outstanding member of the community. This person would have access, be in a trusted position, plus could have a motive related to the college. No one would have suspected him.
    Quote Originally Posted by cheko1 View Post
    Suddenly Searching,
    You can also look at how many college students 'males' that have suddenly drowned after a night of partying & leaving a bar in Wi.
    It is very scarey to say the least.
    This was the first mention I had heard of about the drownings.
    Last edited by SeriouslySearching; 07-23-2007 at 08:55 PM.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    http://www.surroundedbyreality.com/M...mes/Crimes.asp

    Under Christine Rothschild's case, it says she was the first victim of the Capital City serial killer.


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    More on the drowing victims:
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliKid View Post
    That entire area up there- Lake Michigan, Half Moon Lake, the Mississippi River, the Ohio, the Red Cedar - the list goes on and on. I still don't understand how LE can attribute them simply to intoxicated drowning accidents.
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

    A quote spray painted on the wall by search
    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.


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    More:
    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    I found another blip on a murdered UW-Baraboo/Saulk County girl name Inez Musch back in 1993. I can't find any related articles tho. She was found near campus in a wooded area. (This is only 44.3 miles/57 minutes away from Madison.)
    http://www.madison.com/archives/simple_search.php?keyword_field=Serial%20Murders%2 0in%20Madison%20&pub_code_field=wsj%20tct&from_dat e_field=01/01/1968&to_date_field=07/15/2007&var_start_pos=10&var_articles_per_page=10

    Another mention of a rape/murder in 1987 upon leaving a Saulk City tavern named Angela Faye Hackl. She was 19. (This is 27.6 miles/35 mins. from Madison.)
    http://www.madison.com/archives/simp...es_per_page=10

    Another brutal assault/rape mentioned in 2004 plus an incident where a woman was slashed multiple times outside UWs Trip-Adams residence hall, but survived in '93. Her assailant was never found.:
    http://www.madison.com/archives/read...0406110179.php
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    Also something that's suspicious, at least to me. Someone in Madison claiming to have abducted Nyleen Kay Marshall.

    http://www.channel3000.com/news/1555573/detail.html

    http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11732


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    7-12-07 Another missing 21yo UW-Greenbay Coed (Mahalia Xiong) after a night of bowling and drinking: http://www.wrn.com/gestalt/go.cfm?ob...F79513E168D84B

    Another Wisconsin College girl missing, Mahalia Xiong,21
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.


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    Diedre Harm: Deidra Harm. She was 21.

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal...arm/index.html
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.


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    Here is another one: Laurie Jean Depies - Wisconsin - 1992

    And another that Calikid mentioned: I don't know if she's been discussed, but what about Becky Marie Marzo? She disappeared from Milwaukee December '03 after a night out with friends. Some of the details are different, and she's gone missing before. But she might fit the profile.

    http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=46528 (My note* This one sounds like her boyfriend had something to do with it. She just found out she was pregnant and they had a rocky relationship to begin with.)
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trino View Post
    Well, maybe Madison does have a problem. Here are some past unsolved murders/disappearances around Madison. Note that I referenced the last page of the article, since it mentions theories.

    Christine Rothschild Madison stabbed 1968 age 18

    Debra Bennett Madison (14 m) charred remains 1969 age 20

    Julie Ann Hall Madison blunt trama (head) 1978 age 18

    Julie Speerschneider Madison decomposed 1979 age 20

    Susan LeMahieu Madison stabbed 1980 age 24

    Shirley Stewart Madison decomposed 1981 age 17

    Donna Mraz Madison stabbed 1982 age 19

    Janet M. Raasch Madison (60m) decomposed 1984 age 20

    "It is also interesting to note that each victim was young, wore her hair long and parted it in the same manner -- eerily reminiscent of Ted Bundy’s victims -- and all of the victims were found within a short distance of Madison. In addition, they were all somehow associated with the University of Wisconsin either through classes, employment or living at a campus residence."
    http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...ison_wi/4.html
    This was posted earlier, but I decided to include it because it was lined out nicely. Thanks, Trino!
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    I can't find much of anything on Inez or another unsolved WI murder, Mark Genna. That's odd to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KR2tonenow View Post
    ok~what has happened since those dates? does it pick up now since 1998, Amber Wilde's unsolved murder to present?

    Did he/she turn to drownings instead? Just a thought!
    Great link, Thanks BrowneyedEmily!:
    http://www.surroundedbyreality.com/M...mes/Crimes.asp
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

    A quote spray painted on the wall by search
    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.


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    Do you have the link you could post here to Debra Bennet's murder?
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Do you have the link you could post here to Debra Bennet's murder?
    It's on the surroundedbyreality site: http://www.surroundedbyreality.com/M...s/DBMurder.asp.


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