I'm the nephew of Joey Lynn Offutt, and will try to answer some of the questions as best as I can. But keep in mind that the police investigating this case have not told us all that they know, which on one hand is understandable, but on the other hand, is incredibly frustrating to the family.
JaneInOz asked about where Joey's two daughters were during the fire. They each were with different family members for a pre-planned visit. This was not out of the ordinary.
JaneInOz also asked about Joey's car. We assume it was finger-printed, but the police have not told us what -- if anything at all -- they found in the car. We do not know if they were able to lift and identify prints or if they found any other kind of DNA evidence (blood, hair, fibers, etc.) they have not told us either way.
At first glance, it would be logical to assume that some accident happened with the baby and Joey's "mind snapped" as JaneInOz suggested, and perhaps became confused and drove to where she had previously lived. However, when the family saw the photo of her car as it was found in State College, we immediately knew that Joey did not drive that car. The car was backed in (something Joey never did) and was parked perfectly straight (Joey was notoriously known to be a bad driver). Perhaps the perpetrator dumped her car and in some bizarre coincidence just happened to be in the parking lot of an apartment complex where she used to live. Or, more likely, whoever did this knew she used to live there, and purposefully left the car there to make it look like Joey did this.
The family also learned new information -- from the AMW show, and not from the police -- about the partially-opened package of meat left on the kitchen counter. To us, this is more proof that someone else did this -- not Joey -- and that she is a victim.
Our family desperately seeks to find her -- to find out what happened to her and her infant son. We need this closure. We urge anyone with any information to contact the PA State Police or contact the family directly: http://www.findjoey.org
Thanks for your continued thoughts and prayers.
Is there any new info regarding the ex? Also, was the seat moved in Joey's car? Sometimes that's the most obvious way of telling whether or not the owner was driving. If the drivers seat was moved back to accommadate a longer legged individual (a man) as opposed to a small woman. Plus it's something a possible kidnapper/murderer does not remember to "correct" once they leave the car.
But the Sister of Joey as above saidJaneInOz asked about where Joey's two daughters were during the fire. They each were with different family members for a pre-planned visit. This was not out of the ordinary.
So the two girls they were at different family members for a pre planned sleep over for days ?The family believes that she has been missing days before the fire started.
I mean if each daughter of Joeys was at a different family members for a day visit then it must have seemed odd she didnt phone or turn up to collect her child at each place
And if each child was there for a sleep over then it must have seemed odd that neither child was collected from the different family members
Was it normal for her to leave the children at different family members for a number of days split up like that ?
If not why wasnt the alarm raised after one day ?
Its sounding very odd ?
I hope its ok to post this but there is some impertinent info in this place http://boards.insessiontrials.com/sh...hreadid=304411
The nephew posted over there
But the family believes she was missing for days before the fire ? so where were the daughters BEFORE The fire ?As far as the night of the fire, the youngest daughter was with her father Alexis for the week because i guess it was his week with her, and the oldest daughter (which is not Alexis's) was with us here so they were safe and they are both still safe with us here.
I'm sorry but this is very sus. Something is very odd, it was also spoken of that she wrote on her my space she was considering adoption for this new baby.
well Ive been doing some reading, this case is very sad, a baby dead, its mother missing and two little girls missing their mummy.
Murder ? Foul Play > Depression ? what has happened To Joey ?
Here are some articles that i came across
i wonder what the outcome was of this article http://www.tribune-democrat.com/loca...362233345.html
Apparently there were 3 women ( perhaps more) that went missing
Michelle Benjamin, 35 MSG since JUNE 22, 2007 St. Mary's, PA
Joey Lynn Ouffutt, 33 MSG since JULY 12, 2007 Jefferson County, PA
Christina Lynn Peters, 39 MSG since AUG 11, 2007 Nanty Glo, PA
Reading the other board there was two nephews that posted by the seems of it one younger and one older.
It would appear that the theory is that someone knew Joey and set her up to make it look like she killed her baby and then went on the run.
My only questions in regard to this whole thing is to do with the two girls, and the family saying they believe Joey was missing for some days before the fire - why would they say that ? why didnt they go and check on her and the baby then ?
Jashrema - we have asked the police whether the seat was moved back in the car -- they will not tell us either way.
Jane -- As I stated before, the pre-planned visits were not out of the ordinary. The middle child was with her biological father for a pre-planned week-long visit. The oldest child was with her grandmother for a pre-planned week-long visit. This was a normal occurrence during summer months. There were times when the grandmother would get both girls for a week, and other times when she would just get the oldest daughter. During the visit, they would typically talk to Joey at least once a day by phone. For example, she may call before bed time to say good night. At first, when Joey could not be reached by phone, it was dismissed as perhaps, with a newborn and all, she was tired, and dozed off and missed the bedtime call. By day 2 or 3 (I can't recall which) the father of the middle child (who also happens to be the father of the newborn who died) called Joey's mother to see if she had heard from her. That's when they began to worry. Joey's mother lives 4+ hours away. The father of the youngest two children lives about an hour away. The next day he went to Joey's house and knocked on the door, but there was no answer. A day or so later, after still not hearing from Joey, he went to the police to file a missing persons report. The report was filed several hours after the start of the fire. The baby's father learned of the fire while at the police station filing the missing person report.
Joey didn't "leave her children" -- these were family visits that happened all the time. Our grandmother has a very close relationship with Joey's children, and got them for visits all the time. This happens in families all the time. It certainly happened to me growing too -- visiting different sets of grandparents during the summers were often the highlights of the summer!
The fire happened on July 12, 2007. The last time anyone heard or seen Joey was either July 5 or July 6.
Regarding Joey considering adoption. It is true, that early on in her pregnancy, Joey had considered adoption. But it must be said that she considered adoption only at the persistence of some in the family. She did not have long-term stable employment, she already had two children, and she was just barely getting by. Her relationship with the father was described as "on again / off again". So Joey did CONSIDER adoption among her options, but before the baby was born -- in fact several months before -- she declared her intention to keep the baby.
I do not think it's fair to consider the adoption thing as relevant in this case. Joey was being a good mother, and thinking about the best interest of her then unborn son and her other two daughters. She also looked into adoption at the insistence of some family members. So she looked into it, and decided it wasn't right for her.
Regarding these article: http://www.tribune-democrat.com/arch...365205657.html and http://www.tribune-democrat.com/loca...362233345.html -- the woman found turned out not to be Joey. The police identified the woman who was from North Carolina. Her name was never publicly released, at the request of the woman's family.
Regarding the three women who went missing around the general time frame in the region. I believe (though I could be wrong) that one of the missing women was found in a different state, unharmed and had left on her own free will. I believe the other woman is still missing. As is, of course, my aunt, Joey Offutt. If the police believe the cases are related, they haven't hinted that to us.
I'll continue to answer your questions as best as I can. There are tons of theories of what could have happened... and as the family has wrestled with each theory, some theories could be plausible, but only up to a point, and then something else in the case contradicts the theory. Given what we know of the situation, and what we know of Joey, we believe someone else was involved in this. As to who it may be, we have no idea... and apparently, neither do the police.
Thanks for your responses. I understood completely about the visits and the older children being with other family members, especially since joey had a newborn. I can see that other family members might want to help out with the children while mom is focused on the newborn and trying to rest and get things back to normal. Managing three children is very hard. And living away from my family, my daughter took turns going for week-long visits to grandma's and her aunts during the summers.
I'm still very leery of the father of the middle child and the newborn. Of course, I know nothing about the case, but I sure hope they've completely secured an alibi for all his time that week prior to the fire.
findjoey thanks for bringing us up to speed with regards to the children.
From what i have read elsewhere the father of the youngest daughter and the baby that died, was/is/could be a suspect ?
Did he have a alibi besides the 2 year old ?
The police do not consider him a suspect. At least, if they do, they're not saying they do. They do, however, say that they have not ruled anyone out. I assume that means him as well. However, he has cooperated fully with the police investigation. He has voluntarily submitted DNA and has voluntarily been interviewed multiple times by police, including several polygraph examinations. He has done so without involving lawyers or seeking legal advice -- despite some people from his own family urging otherwise. He has said he has nothing to hide, because he had nothing to do with this. He has said the sooner he is cleared then the sooner the police can move on with their investigation.
At this point, at least that we are aware of (remember, the police have not fully shared their complete knowledge of this case with us) there is no evidence -- not even loosely circumstantial evidence that would indicate Joey's boyfriend/fiancee was at all involved.
I'm not saying he is or he isn't. At this point, anything is possible. But as of right now, as far as we know, there isn't anything that suggests that he is guilty of anything.
Fair Enough , I hope that she is found soon and some sort of answers can be found.
Surely her car must be holding some of the answers ?
Was it completely tested ?
As another poster pointed out the seat being back or forward could be a indicator of who was driving or not.
I just tuned in but Headline News is featuring Joey's case with Jane Velez Mitchell. I thought I would mention it here in case others wanted to watch. The focus is of crimes against women. So, it may not go into depth but it was featured.
Thanks CP did they say anything significant? FindJoey wish you peace and finding your aunt. Nothing we can say or do will ease the hurt but know that there are people out here that do care.
Thanks for your response.Jashrema - we have asked the police whether the seat was moved back in the car -- they will not tell us either way.
See, now I don't understand this. Why in the world are they not sharing that kind of information?
It doesn't sound like the BF is involved. Especially if he didn't seek legal cousel, and has submitted to polys and DNA.
Well this is sure a puzzle isn't it? I wonder who would have set the house on fire? Whoever did it must have forced Joey to go with him/her/them and forced her to leave the baby behind. What a terrible thing.
I agree that Joey's thoughts about putting the baby up for adoption has nothing to do with her missing or this case. I would just like to say though that there is nothing wrong with a mother deciding to place her baby for adoption. Joey did the right thing by thinking it through and then deciding that it wasn't what she needed to do. I know that she was having a real hard time while she was pregnant and afterward. She was thinking of what would be best for the baby and that is a good thing. I would never look down on anyone who made that decision because I think that has to be the hardest decision a mother ever has to make.
Visits with relatives during the summer....my son used to spend nearly the whole summer with my parents. I was divorced and we felt he needed a male influence in his life. He loved staying with gramma and grandpa. Didn't want to come home when the time came! Of course they took him camping and fishing and all that good stuff. It was good for him. I still had three girls at home so it wasn't like I could live it up while he was gone..lol.
I wish that Joey would be found. At first I thought it was the baby's dad too but it sounds like he is clear. Was she having problems with anyone?
Skeletal remains were found on Monday Dec 29, 2008 in Marchand, Indiana County.This area is along rt 119 which is a direct route from Sykesville, Jefferson County, 20.7 mi.
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I can't locate updates for Joey Lynn. The body found in DEC hasn't been identified as her.
"Three things in human life are important: The first is to be kind; the second is to be kind; and the third is to be kind." ~ Henry James
Bumping for Joey.
Looks like her ex boyfriend / father of the deceased baby is getting married this month. I would like to know how long they were dating and what she thinks about Joey's disappearance.
It seems the gf goes by two different maiden names...aliases perhaps?
looking up one of these names brings up an article and pic about her being part of a cocaine ring.
Seems like the owner of the Find Joey myspace page has her suspicions about Alexis too!
Reported by Kimberly Finnigan, Tri-County Sunday. E-mail: email@example.com
For three years, the family of a missing Sykesville woman has been doing everything possible to keep the search for her alive.
According to previously-published Courier-Express/Tri-County Sunday articles, Joey Lynn Offutt has been missing from Sykesville since a fire destroyed her home July 12, 2007.
Posted: 12:53 pm EDT July 11, 2011
SYKESVILLE, Pa. -- The reward for information in a four-year-old Jefferson County missing person case has now been increased.
Joey Lynn Offutt has been missing without a trace from her home in Sykesville since July 12, 2007. The morning of her disappearance, a fire destroyed her home.
Anyone know where the boys from Connecticut home invasion were in the preceding weeks? Not saying it has anything to do with them....but following home from the store and firing up the house maybe?
After reading recent article I searched and found this case. Bumping for Joey.
"The police picture shows it was backed into a parking space, perfectly between the two lines," H. said. "Frankly, Joey was a horrible driver and she would never have backed up her car in the space and, if she did, it would not have been perfectly between the two lines."
Link to the scanners downstairs:
Remember Amber Hagerman (Amber Alerts)
saw her show on investigation id last night. in regards to the bf. he was interviewed by the police he had a polygraph and they said he did well on it. then towards the end of the show they said the pd came back to him and claimed he failed the test and they wanted him to do another one which he refused. no where in the broadcast of the show did they say he was a convicted felon. if he was i am sure the show would have mentioned that. they also mentioned that joey had the mind of a child at times. if she was still alive where would she be getting money from.
also in regards to the fire nothing on the show mentioned if the on and off again boyfriend had an alibi i am sure they would have checked that out to make sure he had nothing to do with the fire as well.
also in regards to the seat being moved back in the car i am 5'0 and i need to be very close to the steering wheel in order to reach the gas and break petals. but sometimes i often put the seat to close to me that when i need to get out of the car i cannot because the steering wheel is in my way so i often have to move the seat back. maybe she parked it and could have dropped something and it fell deep under the seat and she needed to reach under to get it so she had to move the seat back very far.
i have done some searches online and not much on the case