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    Christmas Morning Picture of Burke and JB...

    From Patsy's 1998 Interview...

    15 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
    16 TOM HANEY: Well, this photo 12OTET8 was on
    17 your roll of file in your camera. And on the
    18 same roll is the next photo, a Christmas morning
    19 photo of the kids.
    20 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes). Oh, God.
    21 TOM HANEY: Before we, before we talk too
    22 much about the next photo, if you can --
    23 TRIP DeMUTH: You want to just take that
    24 out for a minute?
    25 TOM HANEY: Let's talk still about the
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    1 120TET. Like I say, this was on your role of
    2 film and it's not exactly the same photograph
    3 that was taken by the police.
    4 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes).
    5 TOM HANEY: But it's, it's, it shows --
    6 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
    7 TOM HANEY: -- pretty much, I guess, or can
    8 you tell me when that would have been taken?
    9 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't have a clue why
    10 anybody would take a picture like that. I don't
    11 know (inaudible). Who took the picture?
    12 TOM HANEY: Well, it's on your roll --
    13 PATSY RAMSEY: It's on my --
    14 TOM HANEY: -- of film on your camera.
    15 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know.

    I wonder what this picture was of? What did she mean by "I don't have a clue why anyone would take a picture like that"? I guess that the "intruder" must have snapped that picture of Burke and JB. He must have found Patsy's camera, when he was looking for either the flashlight, or the night vision goggles, and decided to snap a couple of pictures while he was at it.
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    wow....what in the world was that a picture of? I don't think I've ever read that part of the interview.

    Good work AMES!

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    Quote Originally Posted by philamena View Post
    wow....what in the world was that a picture of? I don't think I've ever read that part of the interview.

    Good work AMES!
    Thanks!!

    You know, I did a whole thread on PR Interview...Things That Were Out Of Place...and unusual, and I completely overlooked this portion of her interview...I don't know how. I guess that I had just gotten tired, and my eyes were burning. 400 plus pages is ALOT of reading!! Anyway, I was going through and counting Patsy's "I don't know"s, "I don't remember"s, "Blah, blah, blah"s, and "la de da de da"s....when I found this. I finally finished with my count...it sure TOOK me long enough, and I will post my finding's tomorrow...my head hurts from reading so much.
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    Correction...

    I just went back and re-read that portion of the interview...the picture that he is showing her is NOT of the kids, he says that the picture of the kids was NEXT on the roll of film. SO, I have no clue what that picture, that they were referring to, was of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    From Patsy's 1998 Interview...

    15 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
    16 TOM HANEY: Well, this photo 12OTET8 was on
    17 your roll of file in your camera. And on the
    18 same roll is the next photo, a Christmas morning
    19 photo of the kids.
    20 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes). Oh, God.
    21 TOM HANEY: Before we, before we talk too
    22 much about the next photo, if you can --
    23 TRIP DeMUTH: You want to just take that
    24 out for a minute?
    25 TOM HANEY: Let's talk still about the
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    1 120TET. Like I say, this was on your role of
    2 film and it's not exactly the same photograph
    3 that was taken by the police.
    4 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes).
    5 TOM HANEY: But it's, it's, it shows --
    6 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
    7 TOM HANEY: -- pretty much, I guess, or can
    8 you tell me when that would have been taken?
    9 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't have a clue why
    10 anybody would take a picture like that. I don't
    11 know (inaudible). Who took the picture?
    12 TOM HANEY: Well, it's on your roll --
    13 PATSY RAMSEY: It's on my --
    14 TOM HANEY: -- of film on your camera.
    15 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know.

    I wonder what this picture was of? What did she mean by "I don't have a clue why anyone would take a picture like that"? I guess that the "intruder" must have snapped that picture of Burke and JB. He must have found Patsy's camera, when he was looking for either the flashlight, or the night vision goggles, and decided to snap a couple of pictures while he was at it.
    Could you post your link of this part of interview?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleven View Post
    Could you post your link of this part of interview?

    I would have to post the link to the entire 98 Interview, because I don't know how to post a link to just one section of it, I can tell you that it was toward the end, hope that helps.

    http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/19...w-Complete.htm
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    Hey, Ames-
    I'm curious--since you've read so much of Patsy's interviews--what stands out as the funniest thing Patsy says?
    I haven't read as much as you but one of my personal favorites is when she describes the "horror" of the black children selling candy in the neighborhood.
    She probably says a lot of funny things.

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    "Like I say, this was on your role of
    film and it's not exactly the same photograph

    that was taken by the police."

    What do you think this means?

    The picture from a Ramsey roll of film shows something in the house that doesn't match the crime photos taken by the police?

    Patsy's reaction to seeing the photo was quite interesting. It apparently caught her by surprise because amnesia wasn't her usual response.


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    whatever it was,I think it showed just how dysfuntional they were.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ames View Post
    From Patsy's 1998 Interview...

    15 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
    16 TOM HANEY: Well, this photo 12OTET8 was on
    17 your roll of file in your camera. And on the
    18 same roll is the next photo, a Christmas morning
    19 photo of the kids.
    20 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes). Oh, God.
    21 TOM HANEY: Before we, before we talk too
    22 much about the next photo, if you can --
    23 TRIP DeMUTH: You want to just take that
    24 out for a minute?
    25 TOM HANEY: Let's talk still about the
    0528
    1 120TET. Like I say, this was on your role of
    2 film and it's not exactly the same photograph
    3 that was taken by the police.
    4 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-huh (yes).
    5 TOM HANEY: But it's, it's, it shows --
    6 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah.
    7 TOM HANEY: -- pretty much, I guess, or can
    8 you tell me when that would have been taken?
    9 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't have a clue why
    10 anybody would take a picture like that. I don't
    11 know (inaudible). Who took the picture?
    12 TOM HANEY: Well, it's on your roll --
    13 PATSY RAMSEY: It's on my --
    14 TOM HANEY: -- of film on your camera.
    15 PATSY RAMSEY: I don't know.
    I don't know if it's significant or not,but Haney asks 'when' the pic was taken,and Patsy only replies that she doesn't know 'why' somebody would take a pic like that.so perhaps it was taken that same morning,and she ducked the question with her reply?
    Obviously Patsy is not in the pic,although it sounds like BR and/or JB were(?) Any thoughts? And she asks who took it? HUH? was she implying JR might have?
    my first impression is that the pic was something inappropriate of JB.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57


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    I SO wish this had been elaborated upon so we KNEW what the picture was of. I feel like a little kid yelling "let me see, I want to see!" with all of the emotions inside to go along with the jumping and screaming!!
    For her to have said that, it definately makes it sound as though it was inappropriate. In what way? Who could even guess!?

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    Perhaps it was the picture of JonBenet taken in the laundry room???
    ...We have said to ourselves, look, there is never going to be a victory in this, there is no victory...John Ramsey: 6/24/98

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toltec View Post
    Perhaps it was the picture of JonBenet taken in the laundry room???
    I thought about that too...maybe those other pics she was q'd about go together somehow?
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    did the R's do any of their own film developing,or perhaps knew someone who did? b/c it doesn't sound like a digital camera..I don't think those were out yet in '96.I was just thinking they wouldn't have sent anything too awfully inappropriate to a lab.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    When Haney says this:

    "Like I say, this was on your role of
    film and it's not exactly the same photograph

    that was taken by the police."


    I wonder if this is a sarcastic remark.

    There is speculation on FFJ that something may have been moved from when this picture was taken to when a police photo was taken.

    I think two comments by Patsy refute that.

    "Oh, God"

    and

    "I don't have a clue why anybody would take a picture like that."

    Could this picture be the reason there were questions about JonBenet, the basement, and pictures? I think Toltec may have something.

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