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    Canada - Cedrika Provencher, 9, Trois-Rivieres Quebec, 31 July 2007

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    TROIS-RIVIERES, Que. (CP) - In a quiet suburban neighbourhood in central Quebec, there is talk of a stranger who has approached children asking for help in finding a lost black and white dog.

    In the days leading up to the disappearance of nine-year-old Cedrika Provencher on Tuesday, there was at least one other child who was approached by the stranger.


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    hope

    I hope this case is quickly resolved.

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    From the article it sounds like they at least have a decent description of him. I hope she's found soon, alive and well. He sounds like he has a mental disorder as well, what with being able to actually approach another adult stranger asking about their babysitter!!

    (from link)A young mother, Jenny Girard, 24, told police that a man came to her home on Saturday and told her 13-year-old babysitter that she was pretty and that she should come with him for a swim.
    The man came by a second time and Girard says she confronted him but he denied having been at her house. She says she gave police a description of the man.
    "My five-year-old daughter was with the babysitter outside. I don't know if he was looking at the babysitter or my daughter or both," Girard said.



    Does Canada have RSO lists?

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    I hope they get this guy and quick. Prayers for the family.

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    I am glad they have a good description of this man. He seems to be the likely suspect. Hopefully, they will get him locked up where he belongs and find her safe.
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    This case is close to home. Police are investigating a similar incident in which a women and or man approached a young girl and asked to to look for a lost dog. The man then tired to abduct the young girl, she fought and escaped.

    This town is surrounded by a heavily wooded area. The girl has been missing since Tuesday night. All the stops have been pulled out by the Quebec Police and hundreds of volunteers, helicopters, dogs etc.

    I hope and pray this little girl is found safe and sound. But as time goes by....day after day......

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    For any of you around 5 years ago, remember 2002 when Danielle Van Dam was kidnapped and murdered in February, Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped in June followed by Samanth Runnion's abduction and murder in July?

    This year is turning into a similar year with child abductions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliKid View Post
    For any of you around 5 years ago, remember 2002 when Danielle Van Dam was kidnapped and murdered in February, Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped in June followed by Samanth Runnion's abduction and murder in July?

    This year is turning into a similar year with child abductions.
    Don't say that..ugh!
    I will never forget it.
    I also will never forget going to closing arguments for Avila's trial and sitting behind Erin Runion and across from Avila.
    I drive over the Ortegas a lot and I cannot go through there without thinking of that poor little girl. Poor Samantha!


    I hope they find this little girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taximom View Post
    Does Canada have RSO lists?
    The last time I checked (a few months ago), I believe that only the police were allowed access to the sex offender lists. They do compile them, but I don't think that they are available to the public like we have them.

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    True, the Police and Parole know where the offenders live, but it is not made public.

    From a recent story today: Police have confirmed that they have three different incidents of three little girls around the same age, living in the same area that were approached by a man who asked them to help him look for a lost dog. Exactly the situation that lead to this little girl being kidnapped.

    This girl has been missing since July 31.

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    It will be a week today that little Cedrika has been missing.

    LE is going to stop cars from 5-9 p.m. in the area and ask drivers if they remember anything from last Tuesday.

    They still have no clues to the suspect, or where this little girl could be.

    Lets hope they find her alive and well.

    No one saw her kidnapped, no suspects, no descriptions, no var description.

    Just a little girl of 9 who vanished.

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    The Police have a "vague" sketch of the man who approached the three other little girls. But it does not seem to be enough to do an actual profile.

    There is a lot of wooded area that has not been searched yet, and the Father has organized a volunteer group to attempt to search wooded areas.

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    Volunteers help search for missing 9-year-old girl

    Updated Wed. Aug. 8 2007 7:28 PM ET
    CTV.ca News Staff
    Eight days after nine-year-old Cedrika Provencher vanished from a Quebec community, a small army of volunteers took part Wednesday in a family-organized search.
    Cedrika's father, Martin Provencher, was moved to tears as more than 100 people searched a wooded area near a highway in Trois-Rivieres.
    "I'm truly touched, truly touched," he said.
    The search was done independently from police, but Provencher said he had spoken to investigators and made sure the group would not hinder their efforts.
    Quebec Provincial Police took over the search for Cedrika late last week.
    While police examined land along the banks of the St. Maurice River Wednesday, volunteers focused on an area near a section of Highway 55.
    Among the volunteers helping the Provencher family was Rejean Dion, whose 11-year-old son died years ago.
    "I'm asking my son to guide me so we can find Cedrika," he told CTV Montreal.
    Another volunteer, Michael Haley, said he hoped to find any clue that would help police find the little girl.
    "We're all here together to see what we can do," he said. "We don't know what we can find, but we're trying to find something."
    Meanwhile, detectives continue to investigate reports Cedrika had been asked by a man to search for a lost dog.
    Other girls have come forward saying they were also asked to help find the animal, but police lack enough details to release a composite sketch of the man.
    Late Tuesday, police set up a road-block in Cedrika's neighbourhood to stop motorists and ask if they had seen any suspicious activity.
    "We don't have a strong lead in this investigation, we don't know where she is, so we're looking for more information," said Quebec provincial police spokeswoman Isabelle Gendron.
    She added that investigators "verify every detail we receive."
    Provencher has vowed to keep searching, and has pleaded for his daughter's safety.
    "She has a life to live," he said.
    Businesses and charity group have raised a $50,000 reward for key information that would help solve the case.


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    anything to tell?

    Any news about this case?

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    No nothing yet. They still are searching. The police can't get a detailed enough description of the "suspect" as they young girls who were approached by the "suspect" are too young and very vague on their descriptions. Last night they showed an interview with the mother very heartbreaking.

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    Looked her up and she's still missing. 3 weeks is a long time

    Apparently there are papers in Canada now reporting that two adults, a man and a woman, may have been involved. On Courttv some are even speculating that Karla Homolka may have something to do with it, basically because she lives nearby in Montreal but that sounds far-fetched to me somehow. I was told by a Canadian friend that Homolka is suspected every time a kid is late for dinner in Quebec ever since she's been released from prison and settled in Montreal so I'd take reports involving her with a grain of salt. If there was any substance to it the story would already be on the Crime Library where Homolka's mug is prominently featured on their homepage and has been for years. Anything serious regarding her would be there within 24 hours.

    The "couple theory" is apparently based on a new analysis of the witness statements gathered on July 31st and the following days, however I wasn't able to trace this theory to Canadian LE sources from online articles, only to implied leaks from agencies involved in the investigation. The "ongoing investigation" statement is all LE will comment about this latest rumor.

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    Three weeks is a long time when a child has been abducted. Especially if the person is a pervert which is what he sounds like. He was sure trying to get a little child to go with him. I hope this little girl is still alive but it really is doubtful.

    I wouldn't rule out Karla. That woman is evil and just because she spent a few years in prison doesn't mean that she has changed. I can't for the life of me see any decent man wanting to marry her either. Who knows, she could have married one just like the last one. She got just as much out of those murders as her husband did.

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    Police Believe Missing Girl Is Alive

    The father of a nine-year-old girl who has been missing for three weeks was given fresh hope and relief yesterday after learning that police believe his daughter may still be alive.

    Quebec provincial police revealed they have information that there were several sightings last week of Cédrika Provencher.

    While the Provencher family has always maintained Cédrika is alive, her father admitted the new details have reinvigorated their spirits.

    "It's a relief; it's balm for the soul," Martin Provencher said during a rare break from co-ordinating and participating in volunteer searches for his daughter.

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    I pray Cedrika comes home safely.

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    Hope they find her ok

    Hoping for the best.

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    Prayers for Cedrika and her family.

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    I pray this little girl is found alive and safe.

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    Anxiety and Hope Over Missing Quebec Girl

    They come for all manner of reasons – some with concrete clues about the freckled 9-year-old girl's whereabouts, others with nothing more than a hunch.

    But still they come.

    Almost one month after Cedrika Provencher disappeared, a mobile police command centre parked outside a strip mall in Trois-Rivieres continues to receive a steady flow of tipsters.

    "I couldn't sleep," one woman says as she leaves the command centre after telling police about a mysterious car she spotted near a golf course. "The car just struck me as strange."

    Information such as this makes up the bulk of the 3,000 tips police have received so far in the case. Yet among the tips they received last week were several credible sightings of Cedrika with a man in eastern Quebec's Gaspe region.

    Police say witnesses have told them the girl was helping a man look for a lost dog.

    The news has breathed new hope into a case that is costing other youngsters their innocence and freedom in this city, midway between Montreal and Quebec City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobbisangel View Post
    I wouldn't rule out Karla. That woman is evil and just because she spent a few years in prison doesn't mean that she has changed. I can't for the life of me see any decent man wanting to marry her either. Who knows, she could have married one just like the last one. She got just as much out of those murders as her husband did.
    All I know about Karla Homolka is what the Crime Library has on her... which is quite a lot actually, she is by far the best documented female criminal on that site and there are plenty of links to other resources. I saw the Hollywood flick "Karla" but it didn't strike me as realistic, it was more like a documentary about battered wives and was clearly biased and some aspects of the film were in contradiction with known facts about the case.

    This being said, I don't know who married her but I suspect it's the male equivalent of those women who fall in love with men convicted of violent crimes thinking they can change them, likely not a violent criminal himself (the media would have reported it). In any case I'm quite sure LE is keeping an eye on the couple regardless of the fact that Homolka has served the whole length of her sentence and thus doesn't have to report to police. Homolka may have committed unspeakable crimes but doesn't strike me as someone who'd be prone to initiate violent crimes, she's more of a follower than a leader.

    Also, the Provencher case doesn't fit the profile of Homolka's previous victims who were teens while Provencher is a little girl. This just reeks of a male pedophile, witnesses say he made attempts on other little girls as well but not on teens, who wouldn't fall for the old lost pet trick so easily (I hope). I don't know why people would presume the guy or couple came from Montreal, the MO sounds more like a local especially if it has to do with Pool Guy. If the story about him is true (see the forum on Courttv.com) I'd say local LE should be hounding this bozo out. I understand they have hundreds of tips to sift through but Pool Guy stands out.

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    Last week it was reported that a witness thinks they saw her in a car being driven to New Brunswick - I haven't anything else in the news about this. So not sure if the lead panned out. Praying for the safe return of Cedrika

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    $100,000

    http://www.thestar.com/News/article/275729

    Nov 12, 2007

    The reward for helping find a Quebec girl who has been missing for more than three months is now $100,000.

    Cedrika Provencher disappeared July 31 after reportedly helping a man look for a lost dog.

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