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    WA - Redmond, WhtMale 993UMWA, 20-35, Asymmetrical Nose & Chin, Jun'07

    Wasn't really sure where to post this, so here it is.

    Mods, if you read this, we really need a site for threads of possible matches between missing folks and U'ID's. I like to post here and get a feel for what others think (and sometimes someone catches something that will rule out a match) before I send a tip to LE.

    Anyway, found this guy and thought I might be able to him find because of his facial characteristics.

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/993umwa.html

    And, then found this guy, who seems to have the facial characteristics but doesn't really look like the reconstruct - I know that doesn't make sense, but look at the links...

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/ocain_rex.html

    The 2 towns do not seem far from each other. Also, I thought, since Ocaine did not have a car and walked everywhere, he might carry pepper spray. Age is off.

    Might be a long shot, but you never know.....

    Let me know what you think.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-30-2013 at 02:52 AM. Reason: merged possible match thread gone OT into general discussion thread/ add detail to thread title

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    What is the link to the missing guy's page? Thanks.

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    Crap!!!

    I knew I screwed that up!!

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/ocain_rex.html

    Rex Richard Ocain - missing guy.

    I had about a dozen tabs open comparing all these people.

    Thanks for the catch Laini!!

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    Fixed it up in the first post too!!

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    Lisa, the reconstructions are really, really estimates, you know, so we have to ignore some inconsistencies.

    In terms of this one though - look at the crookedness of the nose and the chin!! Its remarkable. I'd totally submit it.

    My only hesitation is that I would assume that washington would submit any bodies found into a statewide database of missing people. But you know, i could just be WAY OFF THERE.

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    I would think they could narrow down the skeletal remains and dental to a more specific age group tho. The age difference is quite a jump. Still, it wouldn't hurt LE to check it out. Better to act than to do nothing because it is up to LE to sort it out and see if there is a possible match. It could bring someone home.

    Even tho LE does have access to a statewide or nationwide data base of missing, who knows how well they actually "match" these people. Given the parameters of each subject due to age, weight, etc., it could easily throw them off . Unless they have an actual person visually inspecting them for similarities, they may not connect the people which could be a large part of the problem in our enormous John/Jane Doe searches. (I have often thought this was a questionable issue in how LE handles such cases.)
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
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    What I post are my opinions only.

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    Well worth a shot. How many "missing" and "UIDs" in Washington have a crooked bent to the left?

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    What do you guys think?

    Benjamin R. Sjoberg

    Benjamin R. Sjoberg
    Date of Birth:8/24/1973
    Place of Birth:St. Louis County, MN
    Sex:Male
    Race:Caucasian
    Height:6'03"
    Weight:200 Pounds
    Eye Color:Blue
    Hair Color:Reddish-Blond
    Complexion:
    Distinguishing Features:
    Aliases:
    Contact Points:NCIS Headquarters, Washington, DC 1-877-579-3648
    NCIS CASE No.:NIC/M979390441 NIC/M975776243
    SID No.:
    Remarks:HT3 Sjoberg was last seen aboard the U.S.S. Harper's Ferry (LSD-49) at approximately 11 p.m. on October 18, 1996. At that time, the ship reportedly passed between the Hawaiian Islands of Kauai and Niihau, at one point coming as close as 2,000 yards from shore.

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    good face and body size but a question

    The pic looks good and the body size is ok but how did he get from islands to where he was found? I like the looks of the face structure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sable View Post
    What do you guys think?

    Benjamin R. Sjoberg

    Benjamin R. Sjoberg
    Date of Birth:8/24/1973
    Place of Birth:St. Louis County, MN
    Sex:Male
    Race:Caucasian
    Height:6'03"
    Weight:200 Pounds
    Eye Color:Blue
    Hair Color:Reddish-Blond
    Complexion:
    Distinguishing Features:
    Aliases:
    Contact Points:NCIS Headquarters, Washington, DC 1-877-579-3648
    NCIS CASE No.:NIC/M979390441 NIC/M975776243
    SID No.:
    Remarks:HT3 Sjoberg was last seen aboard the U.S.S. Harper's Ferry (LSD-49) at approximately 11 p.m. on October 18, 1996. At that time, the ship reportedly passed between the Hawaiian Islands of Kauai and Niihau, at one point coming as close as 2,000 yards from shore.

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    WA-UID - Anyone Else See Similarities?

    I hope I am doing this correctly In looking at the Doe Network Case File 993UMWA (link http://doenetwork.org/cases/993umwa.html ) does anyone think he looks like Steven James Needham Doe Network Case File 1531DMWA? This UID is approx 1 1/2 hours from Steven's last known location.
    Last edited by Cubby; 04-30-2010 at 01:22 AM. Reason: Correction on Steven's Case Number


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    I think if you ignore the hair on the sketch that the face looks similar. Steven does look like his nose is bigger on one side like the UID. BTW- Steven's case is 1531DMWA. I think you should turn it in- worth a shot......

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    Thank you for the correction, I have been staring at my computer too long!

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    The link for Steven's case on the Doenetwork
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1351dmwa.html

    Stevens eyes are closer that the Does - he also has a longer forehead than the doe. Something about the chin seems off as well.

    If this Doe is Steven I think the sketch is way off - but this have been seen before.

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    Is it possible that the dates are off?? I found this...
    http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/ga...hp?A200502559S

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    Could this be a match?


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