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    Surprising amount of Maddie's hair in car trunk

    'Surprising amount' of Madeleine McCann's hair found in hire car, say police
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2429822.ece

    All I can say is wow!


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    Read this also, they are discussing it on the Mirror board.

    All I can say is....ugh.

    Every day I feel more and more sorry for our girl.


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    Two thoughts....

    1. It keeps being said that the car was rented by the McCanns 25 days after Maddie "disappeared". That would be May 28th, right? But has it ever been said how long they rented it for? Because on May 29th is when they flew to Italy to visit with the Pope. Did they only need a car to get to the airport? Or did they rent it long-term? How long were they in Italy? Did they come straight back to Portugal, or do more travelling? Why pay for a car if you're going to be out of the country? Did they drive the car to the airport that day? Was it parked at the airport while they were gone? Did someone know this, and used the car while they were gone?

    2. This may mean nothing, but I've read that the McCanns spent the day of Maddie's 4th birthday walking along the beach. I think I personally would spend the day paralyzed in bed, but maybe not if....if I knew that being on the beach was actually as close to my child as I could possibly get, i.e. if she were in the ocean somewhere....

    Just some random thoughts...
    He's guilty. Get over it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betsy View Post
    Two thoughts....

    1. It keeps being said that the car was rented by the McCanns 25 days after Maddie "disappeared". That would be May 28th, right? But has it ever been said how long they rented it for? Because on May 29th is when they flew to Italy to visit with the Pope. Did they only need a car to get to the airport? Or did they rent it long-term? How long were they in Italy? Did they come straight back to Portugal, or do more travelling? Why pay for a car if you're going to be out of the country? Did they drive the car to the airport that day? Was it parked at the airport while they were gone? Did someone know this, and used the car while they were gone?

    2. This may mean nothing, but I've read that the McCanns spent the day of Maddie's 4th birthday walking along the beach. I think I personally would spend the day paralyzed in bed, but maybe not if....if I knew that being on the beach was actually as close to my child as I could possibly get, i.e. if she were in the ocean somewhere....

    Just some random thoughts...
    I find it interesting that they visited the Pope on May 29th, after they left the rental car in Portugal.

    Maybe they needed to be purged of their sins.


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    If Madeleine were dead, would her hair be falling out?


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    try and explain this away, please

    I was fence sitting until I read about this. There is no way a large amount of her hair could have gotten into the trunk of the rental car without her being in it, is there? Combined with the bodily fluids, my hinkey meter is going up. I just don't know how this can be explained away if it actually is true and not tabloid gossip.


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    If Madeleine were dead, would her hair be falling out?

    No, but it could have gotten caught on something in the rental's trunk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrendaStar View Post
    If Madeleine were dead, would her hair be falling out?

    No, but it could have gotten caught on something in the rental's trunk.
    So it would be interesting to know if the hair follicles were still attached....I would venture to say yes, if they know 100% that the hair is Maddie's. If the bulbs are still attached, the hair was pulled out. Yes, children pull each other's hair out, this I know. But not in the trunk of a car, in the wheel well...
    He's guilty. Get over it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betsy View Post
    So it would be interesting to know if the hair follicles were still attached....I would venture to say yes, if they know 100% that the hair is Maddie's. If the bulbs are still attached, the hair was pulled out. Yes, children pull each other's hair out, this I know. But not in the trunk of a car, in the wheel well...
    I think they have to be, in order to do the DNA analysis and know whose hair it is. That was a big issue in the Laci Peterson trial, the hair found on the pliars in Scott's boat didn't have the follicle so they couldn't for certain say it was Laci's--just of a type that could be hers and definitely not Scott's. They can do some typing obviously even without the follicle but not the positive match.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrendaStar View Post
    'Surprising amount' of Madeleine McCann's hair found in hire car, say police
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2429822.ece

    All I can say is wow!
    omg - This news just makes me sick! It's just too sad!

    I was thinking that if decomposition had started, the hair might have come out accidentally - ugh.

    It's interesting that on page two of that article the writer calls the father's blog entry yesterday "emotional," since many people felt it sounded stilted and much too calm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betsy View Post
    So it would be interesting to know if the hair follicles were still attached....I would venture to say yes, if they know 100% that the hair is Maddie's. If the bulbs are still attached, the hair was pulled out. Yes, children pull each other's hair out, this I know. But not in the trunk of a car, in the wheel well...
    i would agree with you. my understanding is we have 2 types of dna. Nuclear and mitochondrial DNA . nuclear would be from both parents and tell them 100% if it was maddie. mitochondrial is paced down from the mother and would match her or maddie. again my understanding is hair can only be tested for mitochondrial DNA and you need the follicle for nuclear.


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    Then why does the article say that the prosecutor has not enough evidence to actually charge the parents? I am getting confuddled with all the conflicting stories I am reading.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sherri79 View Post
    i would agree with you. my understanding is we have 2 types of dna. Nuclear and mitochondrial DNA . nuclear would be from both parents and tell them 100% if it was maddie. mitochondrial is paced down from the mother and would match her or maddie. again my understanding is hair can only be tested for mitochondrial DNA and you need the follicle for nuclear.
    This is what I understand also (from the Peterson trial). And with the other little ones being in the car as well, finding hair with no follicle can't be considered very reliable evidence.

    But if the DNA from the follicle is a match to the DNA from the blood, found in the car that the McCanns deny driving until Maddie had been missing for 25 days, well......IF that's the case, of course....
    He's guilty. Get over it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betsy View Post
    This is what I understand also (from the Peterson trial). And with the other little ones being in the car as well, finding hair with no follicle can't be considered very reliable evidence.

    But if the DNA from the follicle is a match to the DNA from the blood, found in the car that the McCanns deny driving until Maddie had been missing for 25 days, well......IF that's the case, of course....
    from the Danielle van Dam case i also learned that even with mitochondrial dna you can tell it from mom's if it has been color treated. the problem i would see in this case would be how do you tell it from a sibling without a follicle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrendaStar View Post
    'Surprising amount' of Madeleine McCann's hair found in hire car, say police
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2429822.ece

    All I can say is wow!
    Did you guys read the entire article? The press says a lot more and the police backpedal:

    But police today denied that there had been any perfect match, or one strong enough to stand up in court.
    The police are ENCOURAGING this case to be tried in the press. In my opinion that speaks very badly for the Portugeese Le. For shame!


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