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    General discussion thread No. 15

    Please continue here.

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    Justice and peace for Madeleine!!


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    So Mrs. Fenn "corrects" the record? How very interesting. She has either been hounded to death, and wants to be left alone, or she has been threatened with a lawsuit? Hard to eliminate her statement altogether. I will need to go back, and read the witness statment made by the resort manager.

    ok, I have one last post, before I throw my sorry @ss out of here, before you guys do ;]

    Rental of the Scenic Car and the Weird Trip to see the Pope
    What the hell was up with that European Find Maddie tour? I mean, really! And it seems that it was a peculiarly convenient time to rent the car, have it for one day, and then high-tail it out of the country for a while. Here's where I'm going:

    1. Day 1 - The cadaver will begin putrefaction immediately after death, but we are estimating that cadaver dogs will detect a cadaver scent, 2 hours after death. Let this time/date start the clock running - Day 1.

    2. Day 7 through day 15This is the interval of time, when technical papers written on the subject of putrefaction, suggest that a cadaver begins to shed hair.

    Did anyone in the Tappas 9 group, have the rental agreement on the Scenic Renault, and simply allowed the McCann's to put that same car in the McCann's name?

    Someone is thinking...we have to get this "package" out of here. However, you don't want to even be in this country, when it is moved. The McCanns' flight out of the country, could be considered rather a convenient time, for someone else to "move, transport and bury" the body. Most/all eyes were on the McCanns.

    3. Day 25 - The McCanns hire the Scenic Renault.
    4. Day 26 - The McCanns were reported to shop for needed clothes, before flying out to Rome, etc.

    5. Day 27 - The McCanns fly out of Portugal
    The Pope, who has been rather "absent" for years, during the perv-priest debacle, is amazingly available to the McCanns. I am dumbfounded. Pope knows a good photo op when he sees one. Pardon my sarcasim.

    And the car becomes available to this circle of friends, family and others.
    STOP: Here is the where I begin to ponder, how convenient it was, that a car was procured, and the McCanns fly out of the country. Now, we hear that this very car, turns out to have a cadaver scent and bodily fluids in the boot.

    This was either a very deliberate staging of events, to move and bury the body; or it was an uncanny coincidence, that the "chain-of-custody" so to speak, for the car, is so hacked up by the communal use of the vehicle, the evidence collected from the car alone, would never convict the McCanns.

    The PJ must have something else. Something big.

    Ok...showing myself to the door...

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    Should have put a warning with that link colomom "warning:may cause crying"

    That is such a sweet picture.Such a beautiful little girl.

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    colomom- I love that picture of Maddie. It is so peaceful.
    Thanks for sharing!

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    The PJ must have something else. Something big.
    That's exactly what I think, they are taking their time because what they are gathering or have is HUGE, leaving no doubt on who are the perpetrator/s.

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    About Mrs. Fenn: I agree, she's probably been hounded to death. And she's bound by the same secrecy laws as the McCanns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceeaura View Post
    Should have put a warning with that link colomom "warning:may cause crying"

    That is such a sweet picture.Such a beautiful little girl.
    I am very sorry..you are right, a disclaimer is in order...

    It is that sweetness and innocence and newness at life....it just grabs my heart and won't let go (no matter how hard I try to break free).

    ceeaura...I hope she is in the arms of the angels, no matter where she is.

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    Thanks for the pic Colomom This little girl is PRECIOUS. *sigh* I was looking at a video with the Mc Canns and her in Portugal and she was soooo small! A little angel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by colomom View Post
    I am very sorry..you are right, a disclaimer is in order...

    It is that sweetness and innocence and newness at life....it just grabs my heart and won't let go (no matter how hard I try to break free).

    ceeaura...I hope she is in the arms of the angels, no matter where she is.

    Me too.Safe,happy and Loved!


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    Why is it that people assume that physician parents are less likely to neglect and/or abuse their children that a poor/uneducated parent?

    Society doesn't want to recognize that child abuse has nothing to do with socioeconomics or race. Child abuse is a disease that permeates all of society because we don't want to confront it.

    Look at the McCanns actions and put them in this perspective:

    Mom is young and black, she leaves her child alone in an apartment so that she can go drinking with her friends just down the street. There isn't a social worker in this country who would defend the actions of this mother.

    Why is it that because the McCanns were educated and white their actions become defensible? The McCanns are guilty of child neglect based upon their own admissions. FACT.

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    Siren, you are ABSOLUTELY right. Unfortunately, society gets caught into the "look"/"race"/"social status" crap that they FAIL to see the real picture. The SAME people who defend the Mc Canns saying they could NOT possibly kill the little girl will NOT defend a woman in the same example you have given, I don't care what they said. THAT'S FOR SURE.

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    That is the kind of photo anyone would treasure because it shows you what a precious treasure the child is. I keep a photo of my oldest at that age on my nightstand...simply to remind me that she inside, she is always my precious child. You must pass out kleenex next time with a pic like that, dear!

    It is infuriating to me as well that educated and wealthy parents are somehow immune to charges of child neglect.

    There were two working class parents in southeast Harris County in the past year, they had a 30 minute overlap where one parent was coming home from swingshift and the other had to leave. They left the two young children sleeping in the apartment when they did that, in the early hours of the morning, but there was an electrical short and a fire, and the children died.

    They are being charged criminally for the children's deaths. It is sickening to me to compare two people trying to make a living, and working, and the McCanns going out to have dinner with the disposable income to hire babysitters or nighttime daycare, but refusing.

    Especially when the two parents involved should have known better than anyone else what can happen to unsupervised children.

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    Me too, Texana. My daughter is now 22 years old but one of the pics I keep on hand was taken when she was five. I love the picture because it seems to reveal the inner soul of my child, along with her sweet facial features. Even now, I can gaze at the picture and instantly recall what a precious little girl she was...now grown to a beautiful young woman.

    The photo of Maddie is heartbreakingly poignant.

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    Where should be the focus of this case?

    Quote Originally Posted by Siren View Post
    Why is it that people assume that physician parents are less likely to neglect and/or abuse their children that a poor/uneducated parent? . . ..
    Because the last studies I ever saw quoted about the subject seemed to indicate the rate of abuse and other crimes was worse in low income households where education was also less. They have more stress and less knowhow to use in dealing with it.

    As to the rest of your post which seemed to be bait for racial discussion: I don't think I will respond to such thoughts as that would be "taking the bait".


    Has anyone stopped to think that just maybe the parents admission about leaving the children alone for a time was meant to sort of take the heat and suspicion off them for the more serious crime which perhaps only they knew had happened? It is an old old tactic to admit to a lesser sin to avoid having people find out about a much more serious crime.

    Look how much wasted time and energy and attention has been spent in people getting angry about the lesser evil of leaving the children alone and whether or not this was child endangerment or not and so on while the attention paid to greater evil of the death of the missing little girl has paled by comparison. Were people then intentionally sidetracked?

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