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    How Many Trips to Fatima?

    I hope it's ok to start a new thread about this, because I haven't done this in a long time. So just let me know if I need to delete this, or the Mods can.

    I'm thinking this news may be something that keeps coming up in the future discussions.

    I just saw this new story today, and I don't know the significance, but it could be a big deal. I believe the new theory is that the McCann's visited Fatima in a widely publicized religious visit, but then later returned to the shrine with the Maddie's body, which would fit with why Maddie's fluids and hair were in the car so long after she disappeared. Soon after the trip to Fatima, they left on their tour of Europe:

    Today's news:

    http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/19301

    Devout Kate and Gerry McCann made a pilgrimage there three weeks after their daughter vanished from their holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.

    Just four days later they rented a car which police believe the couple used to return to the shrine and dispose of Madeleine’s body.

    . . . In just five weeks the McCanns clocked up 1,709 miles in the car and police want to question them about every journey they made. The couple claim they ran up the mileage making frequent return trips from the resort to Faro Airport 55 miles away.

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    Officers want to examine a pasture called the Cova da Iria near the village of Aljustrel a mile from Fatima – where the Virgin Mary is said to have appeared to three children in 1917.
    Police believe Madeleine died as a result of an accident and her body was hidden before being moved in the McCanns’ hire car.
    They are convinced Gerry and Kate McCann’s devotion to their faith played a key role in how they supposedly disposed of the body.

    . . . more at link
    The mention of the specific place makes me wonder if they have a witness somewhere in Fatima who saw the parents near there some days after their public visit?


    From back in May:

    http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?n...deleine+McCann
    The trip to the shrine marks the first time Mrs McCann has left the Algarve village of Praia da Luz since Madeleine was abducted from the family's holiday apartment, other than visits to the police station in nearby Portimao.
    According to friends, she had hoped to make the four-hour trip to the shrine before Madeleine was abducted, and had been even keener to do so since.
    Other links that mention the trip.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20765844/site/newsweek/

    Timeline
    http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/n...f-264289bba497

    What do others here remember about their trip and their reactions to Fatime? Are there any interviews around that time in which they talked about it? I intend to do a CNN search for news from their trip, and what they were doing before and after.

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    Interesting theory Thought Fox!

    With that mileage, that would be 15 trips to the airport in five weeks, or about 3 trips a week. And that would assume that for each trip, the McCanns returned to the resort and Portugal before heading to another destination.

    I think it's entirely possible, and they would not have been followed on that trip to Fatima, and would know it.

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    I think your on to something. I remember watching a tv program about the three kids that claim they saw a prophetic image. To this day it's believed.

    What is Fatima? Sorry, little embarrassed to ask, but reading the post I have a conclusion, but wanted to make sure i understood.

    This needs to be investigated fully. The timeline is incredible versus their trips, the car rental, maddy's scent.

    I'm interested in this theory, keep more information coming. Maddy has been placed somehwere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK View Post
    I think your on to something. I remember watching a tv program about the three kids that claim they saw a prophetic image. To this day it's believed.

    What is Fatima? Sorry, little embarrassed to ask, but reading the post I have a conclusion, but wanted to make sure i understood.

    This needs to be investigated fully. The timeline is incredible versus their trips, the car rental, maddy's scent.

    I'm interested in this theory, keep more information coming. Maddy has been placed somehwere.
    I agree, this is very interesting.

    Fatima, Portugal is the name of the village where these three children lived and were tending sheep in a field in 1917 when the Blessed Mother appeared to them. She came back on, I believe, the 13th of every month for several months, and prophesied some things that have come true. I wish I could remember what the things were. You can Google "Fatima" to read the story. I need to refresh my memory.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they did leave Maddie's body here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by englishleigh View Post
    I agree, this is very interesting.

    Fatima, Portugal is the name of the village where these three children lived and were tending sheep in a field in 1917 when the Blessed Mother appeared to them. She came back on, I believe, the 13th of every month for several months, and prophesied some things that have come true. I wish I could remember what the things were. You can Google "Fatima" to read the story. I need to refresh my memory.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they did leave Maddie's body here.
    Good morning darling. Thanks for the info. It was the show I saw years ago. I found it very interesting, and believable to the childrens best abilities.

    It also would make sense the parents would desire to bury her somewhere that is considered Holy and sacred.

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    I am also intrigued by this possibility. Thank you ThoughtFox for posting it.

    I have gathered some more links for you all to see. To give you a better understanding of Fatima in general.


    From: http://www.sacredsites.com/europe/portugal/fatima.htm

    "Women are, if fact, the predominant pilgrims to the shrine of Fatima and they come, not to worship Christ but rather to pray and express gratitude to Mary as 'Our Lady of Health' (Nossa Senhora da Sau'de). At Fatima, Mary is not generally approached as the idealized chaste Virgin but rather as a down to earth mother figure that understands, deeply loves, and offers assistance with the concerns of women and children."

    http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_12.htm

    http://www.fatima.org/

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    It's a possibility, but I also have to caution that Gerry McCann made a lot of trips to the airport. He was always picking up and dropping off friends there.

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    Fascinating. Maybe they thought the Blessed Mother would resurrect their murdered child.

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    Fifteen trips to the airport? They are really obliging these McCann's, except when it comes to answering police questions!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliKid View Post
    It's a possibility, but I also have to caution that Gerry McCann made a lot of trips to the airport. He was always picking up and dropping off friends there.
    But 1,709 miles in the rental car? That's a heck of alot of trips to the airport, wasn't it? I guess it's possible with 55 miles there and back again. It seems to me you'd have to drive continuously for days to rack up that many miles. (But then I'm not good with math, so forgive the lack of calculations.)

    About Fatima: It reminds me of Madonna naming her daughter "Lourdes" after another holy place with healing powers. I'm not Catholic, but I realize just how powerfully spiritual these special places are, so when I saw the news articles about them going there and perhaps going "back," it just peaked my interest. And since it's connected to very same car, then it's quite interesting.

    We can use this thread to post things if Fatima comes up again.

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    I want them to go search Fatima. I want them to go search the church in town. I so want them to find Maddie.

    They should be getting ready to start the day in Portugal right about now. The judge is supposed to make his decisions today about further searches and interviews, etc.

    May he please, please, please say yes to the searches and may Eddie find Teresa Parker and return to Portugal to help find little Maddie.

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    Could explain the milage in the hire car!!

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...284729,00.html

    The vehicle had also been used by a number of people, including several family members, before it was examined.
    Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said up to 30 people are believed to have had access to the Renault in the 10 weeks after the car was hired.

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    Maybe the McCanns used the pretense of taking another family member to visit Fatima as a reason for going back there one night? If these people were driving around so much in the rental car, then how could the police know all the places they went?

    I don't think that the spin the McCanns are putting on the car adds anything to the truth. They don't explain the amount of hair in the trunk, or the smell of a cadaver. Urine is probably not the only bodily fluid the police may have, yet the McCanns blame that on the Twins diapers. I'm not buying this.

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    The significance of the Fatima Shrine

    http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2578441.ece

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