1256 users online (208 members and 1048 guests)  


Websleuths News


Page 1 of 14 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 207
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Blackpool,UK
    Posts
    334

    Question IF They Did It

    My personal opinion is that they had nothing to do with Madeleines disappearance and my opinion is based on two things only:

    1) Where would they have kept her body after her death?

    2) Why would they keep such a high public profile? Surely even if they are narcissists as has been suggested they would still have the sense to realise that keeping a low profile was the best way to go until it all went away.

    What does anyone else think? Sorry if I have missed a thread on this already.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    2,996
    They are big reasons why I cannot believe they did it. I don;t understand why people think they had opportunity to do this. If she wasn't already disposed of by the time they went to dinner (unlikely to me) then I cannot see when they had the chance to do it.
    Above is my opinion only

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    794

    The Body

    They could have kept the body in a number of places at the resort. Since her disappearance was reported as an abduction, the police failed to search the compound as thoroughly as they might have.

    1. In the boot of a car rented by another member of the Tapas group.
    2. In a duffelbag in the closet.
    3. In a vacant apartment.
    4. In some brush down at the beach.
    5. In a cooler chest.

    I'm sure other posters can think of more places.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    36
    A retired police officer from our country, who works as a journalist now, has been to PDL and checked the scenery himself. He says that if you drive 5 (five!!) minutes, in either direction of PDL, you will find barren and wasteland as far as the eye can see. So they wouldn't even need half an hour to dispose of the body.

    Honestly, I think they have something to do with it. But I still haven't figured out how they could have done it, and where they can have hidden her. I have been thinking back and forth for months now, and I still don't have a theory that really fits.

    BUT: If they DIDN'T do it, why all the lies?

    When it comes to the media profile, I think there's several reasons for that. 1) They'd never thought it becomes this huge. Never. I mean, there have been high profile murder/abduction cases before, but none of them had gotten this big. They had no idea. And it's not all their effort, they have plenty of supporters and machinery that do the job for them. For all we know, they could have stopped talking to the media months ago, but still this case would be as big as it is now. It runs itself by now. We don't know if it was ever intended to be like this.
    2) Silence is not always best. I think they have much to win by keeping a high profile. Why? Because everyone thinks they can't have done it, "otherwise they wouldn't keep such a high profile. "

    (And again, I apologize for my bad English)

    JMO

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Chico, CA
    Posts
    23,127
    On Greta last night she said something about the Portugal authorities having a new theory that included the small fridge in the apartment. That's about all I retained from the brief mention.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    2,996
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkhammer View Post
    They could have kept the body in a number of places at the resort. Since her disappearance was reported as an abduction, the police failed to search the compound as thoroughly as they might have.

    1. In the boot of a car rented by another member of the Tapas group.
    2. In a duffelbag in the closet.
    3. In a vacant apartment.
    4. In some brush down at the beach.
    5. In a cooler chest.

    I'm sure other posters can think of more places.
    But how would they have the opportunity to dispose of it after the fact? I truly do not believe they did. I really cannot be told and won't believe that there wasn't at least ONE person following them around all of the time after the alarm was raised. And even if there were short periods of time they weren't being followed, I cannot imagine the opportunity to dispose of a child's body was there.
    They would have to be imbeciles of the highest order to invite all of this media attention BEFORE they had a chance to dispose of the body. And they are not imbeciles.
    Above is my opinion only

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    2,996
    Quote Originally Posted by Maryam View Post

    BUT: If they DIDN'T do it, why all the lies?

    JMO
    Which lies? Is it proven fact that they told actual lies? If so please provide links, I thought that everything was without sources or verification.

    TIA
    Above is my opinion only

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Blackpool,UK
    Posts
    334
    The so-called Tapas 9 were just a bunch of friends and I think its asking a heck of a lot of a friendship to assume they would go along with you if you joined them for dinner and casually said "Oh by the way I've just accidently offed Madeleine is it ok if pop her in the boot of your car until I decide what to do with her".

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    36
    I'm just thinking about "Twins wouldn't wake up", "Children sleeping through all commotion", but then suddenly mentioning that the twins sometimes cried and Madeleine got annoyed and went off to another bedroom (when in the beginning, Gerry said live on TV that there was no chance she could have woken up and walked anywhere).

    I mean, if she can go from one room to the other, when the twins cry, she surely can walk out of an unlocked apartment?!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    936
    Personally I think they disposed the body right away (they did not wait for 25 days at all). They threw it on the ocean and possibly one of their friends helped. That's my theory.


  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    794
    Brefie, they may have had an accomplice or accomplices.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    3,135
    Quote Originally Posted by daffodil View Post
    My personal opinion is that they had nothing to do with Madeleines disappearance and my opinion is based on two things only:

    1) Where would they have kept her body after her death?

    2) Why would they keep such a high public profile? Surely even if they are narcissists as has been suggested they would still have the sense to realise that keeping a low profile was the best way to go until it all went away.

    What does anyone else think? Sorry if I have missed a thread on this already.
    I think Pinkhammer has the right idea...many, many places. The area surrounding the resort is barren, desolate and there are numerous old wells, viaducts, caves and acres of large scrublands. There has also been the thought that Maddie might have been taken to the church.

    As far as keeping a low profile....it is believed that one of the worst cases of narcissism (and meglomania) of our time was Adolph Hitler. You know what Hitler said? "The Bigger the Lie, the Stronger the Belief"

    "The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed,
    for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more
    easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The
    primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a
    big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies,
    but would be ashamed to tell big lies."

    It makes sense to me that keeping the lie in the public eye would actually create less suspicion than if the liar tried to keep a low profile.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Blackpool,UK
    Posts
    334
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkhammer View Post
    They could have kept the body in a number of places at the resort. Since her disappearance was reported as an abduction, the police failed to search the compound as thoroughly as they might have.

    1. In the boot of a car rented by another member of the Tapas group.
    2. In a duffelbag in the closet.
    3. In a vacant apartment.
    4. In some brush down at the beach.
    5. In a cooler chest.

    I'm sure other posters can think of more places.
    Where would they get access to a vacant apartment unless they did a bit of B & E as well? I dont know how big a duffle bag is where you are from or what you would call as one but no way would she have fitted into a British one.Also would you not think if they took her to the beach someone would have seen them and remembered later when all the hue and cry broke out? Finally number 5 did they have access to a cooler CHEST in their apartment? I thought it was only a small freezer type in the apartments fridge freezer.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    3,135
    Quote Originally Posted by Brefie View Post
    Which lies? Is it proven fact that they told actual lies? If so please provide links, I thought that everything was without sources or verification.

    TIA
    Please be kind to Maryam as English is not her first language.

    Instead of lies, let's say..."inconsistencies".

    This post: http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=302 is just one of the many posts I have done on the inconsistencies.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    36
    Colomom:

Page 1 of 14 1 2 3 11 ... LastLast