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    Colomom, the In Cold Blog article was really interesting--put a lot of thoughts I had about that quote, "the moment she was taken" into words. It bothered me like a badly fitting shoe, but I couldn't quite figure out why. Thanks for the link.

    And the writer/profiler's words about people remaining the same in a crisis or difficult time is so true, from my own experience.

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    Here's the link for that intriguing blog for those who haven't read it:

    http://incoldblogger.blogspot.com/20...was-taken.html

    Thanks again to colomom for the link!

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    Here's the link for that intriguing blog for those who haven't read it:

    http://incoldblogger.blogspot.com/20...was-taken.html

    Thanks again to colomom for the link!
    It was an interesting blog, and it made me do some further research into Pat Brown. I couldn't find any degree in profiling for her. Can anyone point me in that direction. From what I did find on the net is that she's more or less self-taught. Is this true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AfterMidnight View Post
    It was an interesting blog, and it made me do some further research into Pat Brown. I couldn't find any degree in profiling for her. Can anyone point me in that direction. From what I did find on the net is that she's more or less self-taught. Is this true?
    From: http://www.patbrownprofiling.com/bio.html

    Pat Brown holds a Masters Degree in Criminal Justice from Boston University.


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    From: http://www.patbrownprofiling.com/bio.html

    Pat Brown holds a Masters Degree in Criminal Justice from Boston University.

    Does profiling fall under a Criminal Justice degree? Are there other schools for profiling outside of the FBI? A friend of mine is working toward a degree in Criminal Justice and she intends becoming a Probation Officer.

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    Well, I answered my own question. There are some places where you can study profiling, one of them being online.

    One further question: What actual cases has Pat Brown worked on that were successful, aside from renting a room in her home to a serial killer? Does anyone know?

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    A criminal justice degree from Boston University is very distinguished. From what I know about the academics involved in a criminal justice degree, profiling is studied intently throughout the years of higher education. It's not just some electives tacked on to the end of a degree program.

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    From Crime Library:

    Pat Brown is a nationally known criminal profiler and CEO of The Sexual Homicide Exchange (www.SHEprofilers.com). She does cold case homicide work nationally and is an expert in crime scene analysis, crime scene reconstruction, and criminal behavior. Through the Sexual Homicide Exchange, she has developed the CAPTURE program, a serial homicide investigation methodology and training program for law enforcement. Pat Brown is the author of � Killing for Sport: Inside the Minds of Serial Killers � published in hardback in March of 2003 and soon to be out in paperback in July of 2004. She is a regularly seen crime commentator on many television news shows on MSNBC, CNN, FOX, and Court TV, and a repeat guest of "The Montel Williams Show" and "The John Walsh Show". She can also be seen weekly on Court TV's crime show, "I, Detective". She has been the host and profiler for a Discovery Channel documentary that aired in the United States in December of 2004.
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    http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/21221

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    And away they run.....

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    Thanks for the links, colomom. At one time I was very interested in profilers, but she is one I've never heard of, oddly enough. When I did my web search I came up with some negatives and I wanted to be sure she actually had credentials - some said she did not.

    I almost started a thread on profiling this case, but I don't believe we can since we're not sure Maddie is dead, despite what we read in the papers, although it does seem more of a possibility as each day passes.

    Even though it "seems" the parents are guilty, from what we read, most of it without much substance, and the small amount that does is easily explained away - imminent arrest by an obviously frustrated LE officer who ended up getting canned himself.

    I'm still on the fence wishing they would find Madeleine one way or the other then everyone could stop picking apart every word the McCanns utter and every post that's sent. I believe everyone is becoming frustrated. I know I am.

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    colomom

    Thanks for the link to Pat Brown's article on the McCanns. I think she is spot on about Gerry's odd remarks.

    Pat isn't always right, nor does she claim to be. She was off on a couple of other big cases, the Wichita serial killer for one. But everyone was off on that one. Who would ever have suspected it would turn out to be Dennis Rader, president of his Lutheran Church Council; adviser to the Boy Scouts; and local codes enforcement officer? He fooled everyone.

    Gerry McCann is more transparent. The article about his body language is also right on. Gerry exhibits every single personal tic of a pathological liar.

    The more I see and hear of Gerry McCann, the more I suspect that it was he who was responsible for the death of Maddie. Kate seems so dominated by him...she appears bereft and forlorn. But shes' afraid to cross him.

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    Dirty tricks!!

    McCanns' anger at Portuguese police's 'Madeleine is dead' dirty trick


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1770&ct=5


    Portuguese police were at the centre of a new dirty tricks row today following reports claiming British detectives believed Madeleine McCann DID die in her holiday apartment.

    ***************

    No surprise here!!! Just "normal" tactics of the PLE investigation.

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