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    ME - If Under 14, All Sex Must Be Reported To The DA

    After King Middle School moves to offer birth control, the District Attorney says schools must report anyone under age 14 who's having sex.

    http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/st...43117&ac=PHnws
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wudge View Post
    After King Middle School moves to offer birth control, the District Attorney says schools must report anyone under age 14 who's having sex.

    http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/st...43117&ac=PHnws
    Just from the quote, I'm picturing motion detectors strapped to the thighs of young teens.

    (I ASSUME it means "sexually active" in general, however, not at the moment.)
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    " Abuse also must be reported to the appropriate district attorney's office, Anderson said, when the suspected perpetrator is someone other than the minor's parent or guardian. "

    So, if it's the parent or guardian, it doesn't get reported there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitchWizard View Post
    " Abuse also must be reported to the appropriate district attorney's office, Anderson said, when the suspected perpetrator is someone other than the minor's parent or guardian. "

    So, if it's the parent or guardian, it doesn't get reported there?
    Parents will find out after charges are filed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitchWizard View Post
    " Abuse also must be reported to the appropriate district attorney's office, Anderson said, when the suspected perpetrator is someone other than the minor's parent or guardian. "

    So, if it's the parent or guardian, it doesn't get reported there?

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    This is great I just hope the DA enforces it.

    When it's somebody under age 14, it is a crime and it must be reported," Anderson said. "The health care provider has no discretion in the matter. It's up to the district attorney to decide."

    Anderson said she contacted Portland officials after she learned that some employees of the health centers, which are operated by the city's Public Health Division, believed they could decide whether a child's sexual activity constituted criminal abuse.

    In fact, if a child under age 14 was having consensual sex with someone of a similar age, health center employees weren't reporting it to the proper authorities, said City Attorney Gary Wood.

    Anderson said doctors and other health care providers in private practice may falsely believe they have similar leeway, but they must follow the same laws.

    "It's clear that it's going on all the time," Anderson said. "Either the law is going to be enforced or it needs to be changed. I don't think a law should be routinely violated."

    Portland's six school-based health centers had no formal policy on reporting sexual activity involving students under age 14, said Douglas Gardner, director of Portland's Department of Health and Human Services.

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    so basically, the DA has a problem with the school giving out BC. so... now, this won't happen. or at least, the teens won't be honest with the provider. this will really cause problems with the healthcare provided.

    now we're gonna have a bunch of preggo middle schoolers. thanks, mr. DA. you know what i think that stands for.

    flame away, peeps!

    i say that because i don't think that the providers at that school would EVER give out BC pills to a middle schooler unless they thought it was justified. period. and i think they would report if they ever thought there was a child in danger. :-(

    i know people don't want to think about their precious babies out there, having sex. but, regardless, SOME teens are sexually active. or, some people think that the teens getting BC pills gives them permission to have sex. well, the teens are seeking the pills out for a reason. to protect themselves. if you put up a roadblock to make them not get it (the pills... and they wanted them! because they planned to be active, or they were already active, which in many times was the case) they will have sex anyway... this just provides them with protection against unwanted pregnancy. i actually applaud them for trying to be responsible and avoid pregnancy. also, when they give out the BC pills, the provider ALWAYS counsels on delaying sexual activity in the teenage years. always. even if they are already active. because it is risky. the STD risk is higher. among other things. risk for other stuff is shown to be increased too with early sexual activity. so no, providers don't want to ENCOURAGE activity. but if they are presenting to the provider saying "i'm sexually active" do we want to protect them against an unwanted pregnancy? you betcha!!!!

    i know you don't want to think that your sweet children could honestly have sex at this tender age... yes, middle school is young... but i REALLY hate to think of your sweet children having children at this age, either. the alternative is that instead of them being able to seek out this method, they could just end up pregnant. or, they will end up having sex and not have this reproductive healthcare available to them (this clinic offers all services) and their ability to reproduce in the future will be effected (I am sure they do STD screening there as well, as it says they offer a FULL range of STD screening).
    Last edited by pedinurse; 10-26-2007 at 05:26 PM. Reason: OH LOTS OF STUFF

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    Its always been my contention that parents should be providing birth control to their children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeana (DP) View Post
    Its always been my contention that parents should be providing birth control to their children.
    they have to sign permission for the kids to use the clinic at the school.
    i say, compromise. have two forms. one that allows for medical stuff...if your kid sprains her arm at school.
    then one that allows the providers to do reproductive healthcare on the kids... sign it if you want to allow it. don't sign it if you don't.

    but the bad thing with that is that the two merge sooo much. a sore throat? EASILY could be an STD infection!!! how do you call mom and dad and say that the 14 year old sweetheart of a girl you have in the office has a gonorrhea infection of the throat that needs to be treated and that you need consent? gig would be up then because you don't have prior consent. and i'm not sure that with HIPPA laws you could come out and say what the organism was and that it was an STD to the parents, because children are afforded privacy protect under HIPPA as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedinurse View Post
    they have to sign permission for the kids to use the clinic at the school.
    i say, compromise. have two forms. one that allows for medical stuff...if your kid sprains her arm at school.
    then one that allows the providers to do reproductive healthcare on the kids... sign it if you want to allow it. don't sign it if you don't.
    I agree. When my first son was about the age of 14, I purchased a box of condoms and placed them in his room. He came out with this look on his face . I said "NO, you're not old enough to do it, but if you're dumb enough to do it, at least be smart enough to use one."

    That's my feeling on the topic. None of us wants to believe that our teens will be having sex, but that doesn't mean they won't. We're not just preventing pregnancy. These days, sex can give them diseases that cannot be cured. If parents must think of it as a disease preventative, so be it, just DO IT~!


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    "It's clear that it's going on all the time," Anderson said. "Either the law is going to be enforced or it needs to be changed. I don't think a law should be routinely violated."


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    I'm so concerned on many levels here but the main one is that giving birth control pills DOES NOT address the issue of STDs. Like PediNurse said, a kid can get oral STDs and many of them don't know that! If it really is necessary for kids to have sex, then shouldn't they make a kid take a test to see if they have enough knowledge about being sexually active before just handing out medication? I mean, a good, well-rounded test to see if they understand the emotional mess they may be getting into as well as the physical danger. Then they could be counseled at least in the areas they are clueless in.

    I just believe kids should be excluded from the privacy act. When you are 100% responsible, you need 100% of the information. Think of it as you would any job...your boss puts you in charge, but sets you up to fail by letting others keep vital information from you in order for you to do the best job you can. We are setting parents up to fail and that is so sad. How about instead we prop up the failing parents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wudge View Post
    "It's clear that it's going on all the time," Anderson said. "Either the law is going to be enforced or it needs to be changed. I don't think a law should be routinely violated."


    Changing the law would be a dream come true for pedophiles.
    Not necessarily. Many jurisdictions prohibit sex between an adult and a young teen and mandate reporting, without shutting off communication and criminalizing young teens who have sex with one another.

    I promise you I hate the idea 13- or 14-year-olds having sex with anyone, but I fail to see how driving them away from essential medical services is going to improve their situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggy View Post
    I'm so concerned on many levels here but the main one is that giving birth control pills DOES NOT address the issue of STDs. Like PediNurse said, a kid can get oral STDs and many of them don't know that! If it really is necessary for kids to have sex, then shouldn't they make a kid take a test to see if they have enough knowledge about being sexually active before just handing out medication? I mean, a good, well-rounded test to see if they understand the emotional mess they may be getting into as well as the physical danger. Then they could be counseled at least in the areas they are clueless in.

    I just believe kids should be excluded from the privacy act. When you are 100% responsible, you need 100% of the information. Think of it as you would any job...your boss puts you in charge, but sets you up to fail by letting others keep vital information from you in order for you to do the best job you can. We are setting parents up to fail and that is so sad. How about instead we prop up the failing parents?
    We need to make ALL early teens pass that test, whether or not they plan to have sex.

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    Hey, now-who is checking these kids for family history of heart disease, clot disorders, high blood pressure and to see if they are smoking before they are handing out birth control pills? Not to mention the ones with histories of endometrial and breast cancer before we start them on hormone therapies? I must have missed that part of the article....But by all means let's be concerned about who we report who they are having sex with...have they had a baby boom in 6th grade in Maine?? Sheesh, I have a niece and nephew who just moved there last year....

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