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  1. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Gal View Post
    Great post!!! Sad but these days we have to watch all people around our children. My baby to be is going to live a very sheltered life due to this forum. We have to watch our husbands, Bfs, even our own dads and granddads. Sad world we live in now days.
    It's also the reason that if hubby and I should ever get divorced - I won't remarry and will not have a man at the house if my kids are there. Too much risk and not worth it for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ang50 View Post
    It's also the reason that if hubby and I should ever get divorced - I won't remarry and will not have a man at the house if my kids are there. Too much risk and not worth it for me.
    totally agree!!!!


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    Ah, Colomom, I wish I could reach out and give you a hug! I suspect there are a lot of us here that know exactly how you are feeling right now. I posted the other night that this case was going to give me a migraine....and it did. I got up to go to church yesterday morning, washed my hair, went to reach for the conditioner; and I couldn't see it. Sometimes, I get vision loss prior to a migraine - it comes back in about 30 minutes along with a Jimmi Hendrix style black-light show! I am just now recovering from the miserable headache I got. I also understand your questioning of God. Been there, done that. I don't want to hijack the thread, but HE answerd and got me through it. I think it is important that someone cares enough to be sick and ill over the evil that is responsible for this case and others like it. I know that there is a battle between good and evil in this world, and it is critical that someone cares. With all of that said, I also think there IS something a bit different about this case. Let's not confuse the fact that there are TWO mothers involved. Rowan's mother who was at work when the crime was committed, but didn't report her missing for hours upon returning home. Then there is Spears mother, who comes over in the middle of the night with a vehicle (which latter transported her little body), while she did God only knows what - EXCEPT check on Rowan. If there is another arrest in this case, it will be Spears mother. She should be held accountable, because she HAD to know something was going on. Rowan's mother is pathetic on many levels, but the more I read about Rowan's life leading up to this crime, the more upset I get with her mother. If my child got up to WALK to school and church that early every morning, I would be asking her and myself WHY. She HAD to know that Rowan was unhappy. Also, if you go to the adult daughter's website, she makes statements about being so unhappy at home, and glad to be away. Rowan's mother did not run a happy household. She was obviously not wealthy, and she was working to support herself, Rowan, and apparently several loosers. Money isn't necessary, however, to keep your home happy and safe - I know because I grew up in a poor household, that was relatively safe and happy. Anyone who had ever harmed me would have suffered the wrath of my Mother. I am certain Rowan suffered that night - how could she not? I am equally certain that Rowan is in a better place and those who brought this evil into her life will suffer for eternity beyond anything that we can imagine. Almost makes me want to go to Hell to watch them burn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicRose99 View Post
    So, instead of murdering the SOB for taking and raping his step daughter, he decided to join in?!? What a piece of *****!
    Ditto!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reannan View Post
    I can't remember the last time I personally wanted to hurt someone as bad as I do these two animals. I also can't remember the last time I wanted someone to burn in Hell so bad.
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    Don't forget Chester Stiles....


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    except 'patience' is alive and this one was brutally murdered, and tossed aside like trash....


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    A few interesting tidbits in this story:

    http://www.neoshodailynews.com/artic.../01coroner.txt

    David Spears told investigators he and a man named Nathan went to Wheaton to take Collings home, then went to buy more beer. The other man then took Spears back to the Spears home in Stella around midnight.

    "David said he came in, checked Rowan's room and found she was gone," Copeland said. "He said he knew Chris had gotten her and taken her to his house. He got there, and Chris was raping her. He raped her too. Then they thought they would be in trouble, so they killed her and threw her in a hole."





    According to the Newton County Coroner (former sheriff) Spears was riding around with him looking for Rowan. From the above it seems to me that at a minimum - David Spears knew of something that had happened in the past to make him think Collings had taken Rowan - or something was said earlier before they took Collings home. No other reason Spears would automatically think Collings had taken the girl. IMO

    Interesting that Spears had a child of his own...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Gal View Post
    IMO no one is safe from this happening...
    I strongly disagree. Many of us are married to men of character who live lives of sobriety and dignity and would never behave in this fashion.

    There is an element of our society that lead lives of chaos, fueled by alcohol, drugs, and porn. They drift in and out of friends homes. The women are not smart enough or sober enough to keep their children separate from these men. Adult male friends are treated like family...The children become an easy target when left alone in their care...The mothers are only too happy to get the free babysitting.

    This is a crime that starts out by the perversion of the mind, and any instinctual disgust is overrun by lust and intoxication.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    A few interesting tidbits in this story:

    http://www.neoshodailynews.com/artic.../01coroner.txt
    According to the Newton County Coroner (former sheriff) Spears was riding around with him looking for Rowan. From the above it seems to me that at a minimum - David Spears knew of something that had happened in the past to make him think Collings had taken Rowan - or something was said earlier before they took Collings home. No other reason Spears would automatically think Collings had taken the girl. IMO

    Interesting that Spears had a child of his own...
    Alternatively, the first attack happened in Rowan's room (hence the sheet missing), and Spears knew exactly who took her and where and just needed Mom's car to dispose of the body (thereby no trace evidence or cadaver dogs hitting on his own car).


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    That story just doesn't make sense... they tooks Collings home and on the way back to Spears' stopped for beer... so, Collings decided to what... jump in his car, snatch Rowan and take her back to his trailer? All this before Spears made it back home? If Grandma was there watching over Rowan... what, she just let Collings take her?

    “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sr.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicRose99 View Post
    That story just doesn't make sense... they tooks Collings home and on the way back to Spears' stopped for beer... so, Collings decided to what... jump in his car, snatch Rowan and take her back to his trailer? All this before Spears made it back home? If Grandma was there watching over Rowan... what, she just let Collings take her?
    Step-Grandma didn't go there until after the Step-Father arrived home (and apparently found Rowan missing). He called her after he'd been out drinking so he could borrow her car. It's pretty obvious that Rowan was missing by then.


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    I think that this is one of the most disgusting cases that I've ever read about.


    and so close to home, too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiesmom View Post
    Alternatively, the first attack happened in Rowan's room (hence the sheet missing), and Spears knew exactly who took her and where and just needed Mom's car to dispose of the body (thereby no trace evidence or cadaver dogs hitting on his own car).
    I have been wondering why the sheet would be missing from her room because it simply does not appear to match up with this story. The alternative is Collings tied her up with it so he could transport her to his camper.

    I am also wondering why Spears didn't tell his own mother Rowan was missing when he called to get her suburban - did he and Collings already have a plan ? Spears DL was revoked tdue to a DWI - no license but mommy lends him a vehicle anyhow? Did he tell his Mother he was going to get her because Collings took her- so she didn't bother to check on the little girl and his Mother knew when it was reported Rowan was missing that both Spears and Collings were up to no good and she said or did nothing ? Why wouldn't he just call the cops to accompany him to Collings' place if he suspected Collings took Rowan ?

    The whole thing stinks - Spears cannot be believed I think.
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    I think it's suspicious that Spears must have been pretty confident that his mother would not check on Rowan, find out she was missing and call the police. I bet he told his mother that Rowan was spending the night with someone, and his mother didn't want to admit he'd said that when Rowan was finally reported missing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by twinkiesmom View Post
    I strongly disagree. Many of us are married to men of character who live lives of sobriety and dignity and would never behave in this fashion.
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    I have read to many cases to think this way, IMOO Not always are drugs and booze the cases, but sick men and sick minds

    ETA but you are right in a way some of us dont have to worry about our husbands. But withthat said there is always at least one bad guy everyone knows, IMOO. Do a search of how many SO there are and those are the ones registered. My point was you never know who is in your kids life who may harm them, unless you keep your child locked in their rooms 24/7. heck noadays the perps are in schools and are even the kids peers.
    Last edited by Indy Gal; 11-13-2007 at 01:59 PM. Reason: make point a little stronger.


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