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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by buster23 View Post
    Kimster, Can you please post a link to Randy Griffith's missing page? I'm new to this and cannot find it. thanks!
    Thanks for the new information, Buster. Maybe it will bring some closure. I also did not know that Randy had disappeared. Was this at the same time as Bob? Yes, if anyone has a link for Randy, WS' should make a thread for him too. Thanks WS for featuring Bob's case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buster23 View Post
    Hi everyone,
    thanks for all of the insight on Bob's case. He was my next door neighbor and I think of him often. I don't know much more than what is already listed, but will try to answer questions.

    I did not know that the hunting buddy was also missing. I had always heard that he was meeting his cousin to go hunting. Maybe Randy is his cousin? Or, maybe they were close and just referred to themselves as cousins.

    I remember hearing that the $25 Bob withdrew from his bank account and his bank book were both found in the glove compartment.

    The area that he was going to has a lot of woods and bluffs and is near Devil's Lake State Park. I heard at the time of his disappearance that there had been a problem up there with people growing marijuana on or near the State park. Maybe he saw something he should'nt have seen, or was involved.

    His mother passed away a few years ago. As far as I know, his father, brother and sister are still living. He had another sister, Cathy, who was murdered approximately 5 years after his disappearance. She associated with a motorcycle gang and was a police informant. She was hit over the head and left to die in a building they set on fire.

    Thanks for looking at Bob's case and making suggestions. Maybe I should see if I can get ahold of the police reports to see if there is anything else we don't know.
    Thanks!
    Was the sister hanging out with the motorcycle gang at the time of the dissapearance? There could be a connection there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buster23 View Post
    Kimster, Can you please post a link to Randy Griffith's missing page? I'm new to this and cannot find it. thanks!
    I did not know he was missing! We do not have a page for him here that I could find?


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    So we need some more info on Randy. It's sounding more and more like he is the center of this case and his innocent friend (bob), got caught in the middle. Remember that bob was in a strange driveway looking for his friend....a friend who was in trouble apparently. We need background info on randy griffith. Bob,s neighbor.....what do you remember about randy?
    My posts are opinion and speculation only, and may not be used for any purpose outside of this forum.

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    Are there other friends of Robert from that time, who may know something, but were afraid to say something back then? Also, did he ever pick up hitch hikers?


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    I wonder if he was going to meet someone before his final destination (Randy's home). He may not have shared that info with his family.


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    Maybe he stopped to help a disabled motorist and that person was bad?

    Maybe his plate number should be publicized. Someone could have seen it on a wall or in someone's garage.

    I'm just throwing out possibilities . . .


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    This is a sad story. Bob looks like a clean cut college freshman in his photo and it would have been heartbreaking for his Mum, Dad and whole family to not know what happened to him.

    I mean people don't disappear into thin air. Someone knows something about this young man. IMO

    I am interested if his friend Randy went missing too. The stealing of the tyres and battery feels to me like it could have been a random act, if the car was sitting there for too long unattended - as it is interesting that the thief/thieves didn't break in and rifle through the glove box or steal the hunting bow.

    I have had a look on google maps satellite and Durward's Glen Road seems a way off from Baraboo.
    What is the reference to Durward's Glen retreat site and the nun? Is there a retreat for nuns along that road? Where exactly did the lady see Bob and was it on Durward's Glen Road?

    Even so it looks like farm land and some forest/bushland around those parts, with some national parks and large bodies of water.

    I wonder how big the area was that they searched?
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    This is from the charleyproject website on Robert:

    "After Christian's disappearance was reported, a witness came forward and said she had seen him and his car at a retreat in Durward's Glen. Christian told the witness he was looking for his friend, then said he must be looking in the wrong place. He then drove away eastward."


    Saying that you are looking for a friend is a common excuse to say when you are in a place you know you shouldn't be. I ran into 2 situations where someone answered in that way. Both situations were people trying to commit a burglary. Now, I'm not saying Robert was going to burglarize, but he could have been fibbing to the woman about his reason for being in the driveway.


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    It is odd someone threw the old tires and rims in the gravel pit. Why not just leave them with the car? It suggests the person who took Robert's tires and rims lived in the area, because they knew of the gravel pit and were in the area to be able to spot Robert's car. I wonder if the police checked out Hornets registered to people in that area. Also, someone must have noticed an older Hornet suddenly equipped with new tires and rims. Seems weird no one came forward on it, such as a neighbor, girlfriend, etc. of the person who took them. There must have been some media coverage of Robert's disappearance at the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpy View Post
    Maybe he stopped to help a disabled motorist and that person was bad?

    Maybe his plate number should be publicized. Someone could have seen it on a wall or in someone's garage.

    I'm just throwing out possibilities . . .
    Good idea


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    His poor family!

    I searched for Randy Griffith as well as Randall Griffith on the doenetwork but only Robert's case appears.

    The same thing occurs when I googled it.

    Where did ya'll see that Randy was missing? To me, that came way out of left field!

    If Randy did disappear...depending upon the length of time between the two...the cases should be looked at together.

    Anyhow in regards to Robert....
    Landmarks that have been noted:
    Madison: where he was last seen with his family
    Baraboo: City/town he traveled to that night in order to meet his friend Randy, whose family obviously lived there.

    Baraboo Bluffs: large forest area where Robert and Randy planned to hunt the following morning.

    Likely route taken by Robert to meet Randy:
    Madison Beltline Highway, headed west to Highway 12 and took it north to the Baraboo area.

    Durward's Glen retreat site: location where a lady encountered a car in her friend's driveway that matched the description of the Hornet and had the same license plate. The young male driver of the car matched Robert's description and told the woman something like "I'm looking for my friend. I'm supposed to meet my friend." The young man said he must be at the wrong place and then drove away to the east, away from the relay tower.

    From Durward's Glen Retreat - going east away from the tower-- the direction she saw him drive to

    State Patrol relay antenna on Tower Road southeast of the city: location where Robert's car was found WITH THE $25 in the glovebox

    just south of the Badger Army Ammunition Plant and north of Prairie du Sac: Location of where the old tires were discovered

    Sorry I am a visual person and I had to clarify each location.

    Questions on my mind:
    Where exactly was Randy's home?
    How far away is it from Durwards Glen Road?

    Also, I would be very interested to know if they collected any fingerprints from the car (sans tires etc), items in the car or on the old tires.

    And if they did collect this evidence, do they still have it?

    I mean, what happened to the car? I know that if it were my car and that it could hold the keys to finding a missing family member of mine...I'd keep that sucker for life.

    falling asleep will re-post tomorrow if I re-read and it doesnt make sense

    Cleashindra Hall vanished 5/9/94 just 9 days before she was to graduate HS as Valedictorian.
    She was last seen at the home/office of a doctor for whom she worked after school...only 1/2 mi down the road from her home.
    That home was not searched until 4/29/2012 - but investigators forgot to submit the evidence to the crime lab.

    Clea has few visitors on her WS thread, please come & hear her story. This case can be solved.

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    I think it's safe to say that the post regarding Randy missing was a mistake. Doing a search, I found a Randy Griffith in Baraboo who was born in 1957. Not sure if this is the same guy, but the age would be about right (2 yrs older than Bob).

    Since Bob knew the area well (family from there and had been there often), it does seem like either he was disoriented or perhaps he was supposed to meet an unknown person at a new location (as others have posted).

    My recollection from the time is that he was going to stop by and check his tree stand and then go pick up his "cousin". As I think about it now, it seems odd that he would stop at the tree stand first. Why not just get his friend? Unless, he was dropping off stuff and they were going to hunt in the morning.

    Someone asked if his sister who was murdered was involved with the motorcycle gang when Bob disappeared. I don't know, but she would have been 16 yrs old at that time, so I doubt it.

    I haven't been in contact with any of his family for a long time. I did find his sister on facebook, though. I'm trying to decide if I should contact her about this. I don't want to upset her if she doesn't want to delve back into this.

    Thanks everyone!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rosesfromangels View Post
    So we need some more info on Randy. It's sounding more and more like he is the center of this case and his innocent friend (bob), got caught in the middle. Remember that bob was in a strange driveway looking for his friend....a friend who was in trouble apparently. We need background info on randy griffith. Bob,s neighbor.....what do you remember about randy?
    I never met Randy. Bob and I lived in Madison. Randy lived in Baraboo, which is approx 30 minutes away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernSummer View Post
    His poor family!

    I searched for Randy Griffith as well as Randall Griffith on the doenetwork but only Robert's case appears.

    The same thing occurs when I googled it.

    Where did ya'll see that Randy was missing? To me, that came way out of left field!

    If Randy did disappear...depending upon the length of time between the two...the cases should be looked at together.

    Anyhow in regards to Robert....
    Landmarks that have been noted:
    Madison: where he was last seen with his family
    Baraboo: City/town he traveled to that night in order to meet his friend Randy, whose family obviously lived there.

    Baraboo Bluffs: large forest area where Robert and Randy planned to hunt the following morning.

    Likely route taken by Robert to meet Randy:
    Madison Beltline Highway, headed west to Highway 12 and took it north to the Baraboo area.

    Durward's Glen retreat site: location where a lady encountered a car in her friend's driveway that matched the description of the Hornet and had the same license plate. The young male driver of the car matched Robert's description and told the woman something like "I'm looking for my friend. I'm supposed to meet my friend." The young man said he must be at the wrong place and then drove away to the east, away from the relay tower.

    From Durward's Glen Retreat - going east away from the tower-- the direction she saw him drive to

    State Patrol relay antenna on Tower Road southeast of the city: location where Robert's car was found WITH THE $25 in the glovebox

    just south of the Badger Army Ammunition Plant and north of Prairie du Sac: Location of where the old tires were discovered

    Sorry I am a visual person and I had to clarify each location.

    Questions on my mind:
    Where exactly was Randy's home?
    How far away is it from Durwards Glen Road?

    Also, I would be very interested to know if they collected any fingerprints from the car (sans tires etc), items in the car or on the old tires.

    And if they did collect this evidence, do they still have it?

    I mean, what happened to the car? I know that if it were my car and that it could hold the keys to finding a missing family member of mine...I'd keep that sucker for life.

    falling asleep will re-post tomorrow if I re-read and it doesnt make sense
    Good post. I also would like to know if they found the keys to the car and if his other personal items (clothes, hunting gear, etc.) were found in the car.


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