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    NC Wanted

    http://ncwanted.com/episodeguide

    so we know from the show above that "several friends" visited Michelle on Thursday night, November 2nd....they left, leaving Michelle alone with Cassidy...JY left the afternoon/early evening on November 2nd, got gas at Handy Hugo....had a reservation for the Hampton Inn in Hillsville, VA (3 hours from his meeting in Clintwood, VA)....the reservation for Hillsville hasn't been verified......had a meeting in Clintwood, VA (probably verified, sounds to me)...after the meeting he heads south...refuels for gas in Duffield, then heads on to Brevard to his parents home......

    if the stay in Hillsville hasn't been verified, then isn't it safe to say he did NOT stay there???...if he had a reservation, he'd still need to stop at the front desk & get a key/card for the room....if a key/card was given to him, there WOULD be something to verify.....am i missing something here?....this is the missing part of the timeline....lots & lots of time to have committed this murder, then head back to the meeting in Clintwood.....

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    Close - hello !

    Do you think that 25 bed hospital was seriously going to buy that high priced software from Chart One ?

    I don't - the meeting is the joke IMO.

    I think he was at Hillsville - I just don't think they can verify he stayed there all night or maybe even entered the room, short of opening the door with the card, or was present for even a short time. In other words - no surveillance and no one remembered him being there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    Close - hello !

    Do you think that 25 bed hospital was seriously going to buy that high priced software from Chart One ?

    I don't - the meeting is the joke IMO.

    I think he was at Hillsville - I just don't think they can verify he stayed there all night or maybe even entered the room, short of opening the door with the card, or was present for even a short time. In other words - no surveillance and no one remembered him being there.
    hello RC

    ok, so you think the meeting never happened at all?....do you think JY has no alibi at all, & LE knows this?

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    do we know there were no cameras at the Days Inn in Hillsville?....in this day & time, i find it hard to believe a Days Inn doesn't...hmmm, at least not inside the office lobby.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by close_enough View Post
    hello RC

    ok, so you think the meeting never happened at all?....do you think JY has no alibi at all, & LE knows this?
    I think the "meeting" happened but it was not anything serious or planned for any length of time. Could very well have been a cold call as far away from Raleigh as possible. No hospital that size in the middle of nowhere has the money to invest in that software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    I think the "meeting" happened but it was not anything serious or planned for any length of time. Could very well have been a cold call as far away from Raleigh as possible. No hospital that size in the middle of nowhere has the money to invest in that software.
    ok, ok...i gotcha......a cold call makes sense, but i think LE has verified he was in Clintwood for a "meeting".....interesting

    he calls & sets up a "meeting" with this place, & yes you're right..."as far away from Raleigh as possible".....premeditated

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    Quote Originally Posted by close_enough View Post
    do we know there were no cameras at the Days Inn in Hillsville?....in this day & time, i find it hard to believe a Days Inn doesn't...hmmm, at least not inside the office lobby.....
    Hampton Inn - limited surrveillance and like most - 24 hour loop is probable on the front desk. LE could not have gotten there before that 24 hour loop was up and restarted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    Hampton Inn - limited surrveillance and like most - 24 hour loop is probable on the front desk. LE could not have gotten there before that 24 hour loop was up and restarted.
    aaah, yes....i think you're right....hmmm

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    Making the case about the hospital a bit further:

    http://dchosp.com/AboutUs.htm

    If JY were going to sell software to this hospital - would he not set up a meeting with the parent, Norton Community ? Something is not right with this picture no matter which way you turn it.

    You'll also note - back in the Appalachian Mts along that trail JY knew so well from his younger days. I still suspect if the murder weapon was not in the house - then it and other accoutrements of the crime are somewhere near the trail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    Making the case about the hospital a bit further:

    http://dchosp.com/AboutUs.htm

    If JY were going to sell software to this hospital - would he not set up a meeting with the parent, Norton Community ? Something is not right with this picture no matter which way you turn it.

    You'll also note - back in the Appalachian Mts along that trail JY knew so well from his younger days. I still suspect if the murder weapon was not in the house - then it and other accoutrements of the crime are somewhere near the trail...
    yeah, i don't doubt that at all....he did an awful lot of driving far away....

    just watched the NC Wanted video again....


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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    Hampton Inn - limited surrveillance and like most - 24 hour loop is probable on the front desk. LE could not have gotten there before that 24 hour loop was up and restarted.
    Hi RC,

    I wonder whether LE was able to get to the Hampton Inn soon enough to have the maid who handled his room on 11/3 recall what the room was like - bedding, shower, etc. Did someone sleep and shower, etc. there... or check in, drop stuff off, make a few phone calls, etc.

    Food/drink items, paperwork, etc. Basically, did it appear to be inhabited for many hours, or not? Although it's not a given one way or the other, that maid's statement and information might have been helpful. Hopefully LE got there soon enough (a day or two) where the maid's recollection might have been more accurate.

    Garbage cans can be a wealth of information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEPUTYDAWG View Post
    Hi RC,

    I wonder whether LE was able to get to the Hampton Inn soon enough to have the maid who handled his room on 11/3 recall what the room was like - bedding, shower, etc. Did someone sleep and shower, etc. there... or check in, drop stuff off, make a few phone calls, etc.

    Food/drink items, paperwork, etc. Basically, did it appear to be inhabited for many hours, or not? Although it's not a given one way or the other, that maid's statement and information might have been helpful. Hopefully LE got there soon enough (a day or two) where the maid's recollection might have been more accurate.

    Garbage cans can be a wealth of information.

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    Hi DD

    We know from the warrants the SUV was hauled away at 4 am on 11/4. How soon LE obtained the so called receipt is unknown however I think it safe to say at least, the room had been cleaned at least once - if rented again 2 times before LE could have possibly gotten there. I agree, the maid would have been able to tell if someone was actually in that room or someone came in and made it look like someone was in there - if the observant type. She may or may not recall if soap had been used or still wrapped - glasses used etc. Shuze gave me a whole list of things that would be usable to tell if a person was in the room or just messed it up for appearances.

    I suspect every inch of that room was dusted for prints, drains taken apart for DNA swabs and so on as well as the maid(s) responsible for cleaning the room interviewed. NC Wanted may not have ran into someone who saw JY there but I suspect LE knows if Jy entered the room and if for instance he showered. Also cell records might show up Hillsville if he made any calls. I don't believe JY was smart enough to think of everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisincharlie View Post
    Hi DD

    We know from the warrants the SUV was hauled away at 4 am on 11/4. How soon LE obtained the so called receipt is unknown however I think it safe to say at least, the room had been cleaned at least once - if rented again 2 times before LE could have possibly gotten there. I agree, the maid would have been able to tell if someone was actually in that room or someone came in and made it look like someone was in there - if the observant type. She may or may not recall if soap had been used or still wrapped - glasses used etc. Shuze gave me a whole list of things that would be usable to tell if a person was in the room or just messed it up for appearances.

    I suspect every inch of that room was dusted for prints, drains taken apart for DNA swabs and so on as well as the maid(s) responsible for cleaning the room interviewed. NC Wanted may not have ran into someone who saw JY there but I suspect LE knows if Jy entered the room and if for instance he showered. Also cell records might show up Hillsville if he made any calls. I don't believe JY was smart enough to think of everything.
    I agree with you 100%. I'm sure they gathered a lot of information.

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    I'm sure LE has already analyzed all the information relative to the hotel room. There would be immediate indicators as to how many times and specifically what times JY entered the hotel room. The actual lock serves as a log, monitoring and recording up to 1,000 entries (about 100 days worth). If he checked in, then left but returned during the middle of the night, it was recorded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBanker View Post
    I'm sure LE has already analyzed all the information relative to the hotel room. There would be immediate indicators as to how many times and specifically what times JY entered the hotel room. The actual lock serves as a log, monitoring and recording up to 1,000 entries (about 100 days worth). If he checked in, then left but returned during the middle of the night, it was recorded.
    Hi NCBanker.
    So each time someone goes in or out of this particular type of door, it's recorded? These are the hotel doors with the card-key entry, right?
    And it monitors and records the time of day also? Interesting!
    That would certainly be a significant help.
    You know that somewhere along the way during those hours Jason would have made a major error!

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