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    Quote Originally Posted by Auburnmommyof2 View Post
    I found this article and am glad to see someone is helping these girls. Has anyone contacted the founder about MJD? She might be able to help.

    http://www.phoenixmag.com/lifestyle/...-prostitution/
    Thanks! I'll check that out.

    I read somewhere that the average age for child prostitutes is 13 years old! And can be as young as 9!

    I, too, think the cops are being so tight lipped because they may have uncovered something bigger..

    Good work guys.
    Last edited by VASHLEY88; 05-01-2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason: wrong num


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    Child prostitution has been so bad in Phoenix, the community leaders made a documentary to spread its awareness if its any interest for anyone to check it out...




    http://www.brandedphx.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    I noticed that case 99-1024 from the ME office in Maricopa involved a girl from the same age range around the same time frame. It was stated that the clothing she was wearing was shown on the website, and that she might have been a child forced into prostitution. The case is solved, so there are no further details. Can anybody find the circumstances around her discovery and then when it was solved?
    That case is listed as being a woman age 30-50, not a girl from MJDs age range?
    I'll look around later and see if I can find anything on it though.
    It looks like there are a few other unidentified women kind of around her age range though (not identified yet), one from 2002, one from 1992, 1997 etc. but nothing from 1999 at least thats still on the site? Where did you find that? Maybe its the girl from 2002? She's the closest in age to MJD but not yet identified that I can tell.

    Here's the Maricopa link again for anyone who hasn't seen it. Something about the girl from 1992 seems familiar- can anyone recall a case of a missing woman/girl with pink glasses? I feel like I've seen that on Doe Network or somewhere? http://www.maricopa.gov/Medex/Unidentified/search.aspx


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    Quote Originally Posted by lorelei View Post
    That case is listed as being a woman age 30-50, not a girl from MJDs age range?
    I'll look around later and see if I can find anything on it though.
    It looks like there are a few other unidentified women kind of around her age range though (not identified yet), one from 2002, one from 1992, 1997 etc. but nothing from 1999 at least thats still on the site? Where did you find that? Maybe its the girl from 2002? She's the closest in age to MJD but not yet identified that I can tell.

    Here's the Maricopa link again for anyone who hasn't seen it. Something about the girl from 1992 seems familiar- can anyone recall a case of a missing woman/girl with pink glasses? I feel like I've seen that on Doe Network or somewhere? http://www.maricopa.gov/Medex/Unidentified/search.aspx
    Yes, she was on the Doe Network, I recall her as well.


    The girls closest to MJD age range seem to have similar circumstances, and are only a few years apart from her incident. That disturbs me.


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    ME Report???

    This is a cut and paste from another website that is following this case as well:
    Individual Case Report
    Unidentified Deceased Reporting System
    ME/C Contact InformationName:Suzi DodtAgency:Maricopa County Medical ExaminerPhone Number:602-372-1126E-mail Address:dodts@mail.maricopa.gov
    Case InformationStatus:Unidentified
    Case Number:99-0305NCIC
    Number:N/A
    Date Found:1999-01-26 00:00:00
    Date Entered:2007-06-30 00:00:00
    Date Modified:2008-01-22 08:31:00
    GPS Found:N/A
    Address Found:Interstate 10, milepost 173.5 eastboundAZ
    Maricopa County
    Demographics and CircumstancesEstimated Age:Adolescent
    Minimum Age:13 years
    Maximum Age:18 years
    Race:WhiteEthnicity:N/A
    Sex:Female
    Weight (lbs.):120,
    EstimatedHeight (inch):64,
    MeasuredCondition:Recognizable Face
    Probable Year of Death:1999
    Est. Postmortem Interval:N/A Hours
    DNA Profile Status:Complete - nucDNA Profile available in FBI NMPDD
    Circumstances of Death:This young girl either fell, jumped, or was pushed from a moving vehicle. She died in the hospital a day later. The other(s) in the vehicle never came forward to ID her.
    Body DetailsTattoos:blue heart tattoo on chest
    Piercings:earring and a navel ring
    Fingerprint ClassificationRTN/AN/AN/AN/AN/ALTN/AN/AN/AN/AN/A
    Fingerprint CommentsN/A
    Clothing, Hair, Eyes
    Clothing With Body:unsure
    Jewelry:yellow metal earring with clear stone, 2 yellow metal earrings with black stones, one white metal navel ring
    Head Hair:sixteen inch long blonde hair with brown roots
    Body Hair:xxxxxx
    Facial Hair:light brown eyebrows
    Eye Color:blue
    Dental
    Dental Summary: One or More Teeth Present, Upper Jaw Present, Lower Jaw Present
    Upper Right12345678910111213141516Upper
    LeftLower
    RightLower
    Left32313029282726252423222120191817
    Dental Comments:3=O 14=O,L 18=M,O 19=O,D 30=O
    Photos
    I hope this is OK to do in the interest of sharing information....
    Last edited by believe09; 08-23-2008 at 07:24 PM. Reason: remove pic and edit for sensitivity to family


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    Quote Originally Posted by lorelei View Post
    That case is listed as being a woman age 30-50, not a girl from MJDs age range?
    I'll look around later and see if I can find anything on it though.
    It looks like there are a few other unidentified women kind of around her age range though (not identified yet), one from 2002, one from 1992, 1997 etc. but nothing from 1999 at least thats still on the site? Where did you find that? Maybe its the girl from 2002? She's the closest in age to MJD but not yet identified that I can tell.

    Here's the Maricopa link again for anyone who hasn't seen it. Something about the girl from 1992 seems familiar- can anyone recall a case of a missing woman/girl with pink glasses? I feel like I've seen that on Doe Network or somewhere? http://www.maricopa.gov/Medex/Unidentified/search.aspx
    Thank you, lorelei-let me show you all where I went astray:
    http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/s...e.7fa5448.html

    This is a story of a 13-18 year old girl, assumed prostitute, that was discovered 2/19/2007. When I clicked on the link in the story, it brought me to the M/E website, where I looked at UID's without processing the date of the story.

    What compels me about the story I linked is the physical description of the child...



    The case number of the child in the story is No. 07-1122.

    I found a link to the story of what happened to this child:
    http://missingandmurderedchildren.fa...oe-no-07-1122/

    Four adults gave her a huge amount of vodka and she was raped either before or after she succumbed to the alcohol poisoning. (She seized and died.) They dumped her body in a dumpster....(Check out her eyebrows however!)
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    I know I've posted this link before, but here is another teenaged JD from the Phoenix area, 2 years after MJD:
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/501ufaz.html


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    I am not sure if this holds true for MJD case since it has been almost 10 years..

    But before I made a call to obtain a form to get excess to her medical examiner report, I called my step father who is a federal law enforcement agent and asked him some questions regarding the situation.

    I explained the situation to him, and told him what we were doing here and he said that I probably would not be authorized access to her ME report because her case is still being investigated.

    Even he himself wouldn't have access because he needs probable cause to obtain those records (i.e. probably reasons beyond just identifying her)

    Although in some cases he said that ME/autopsy reports can become public records.. it probably won't hold true in her case because it seems as though her case is still pending investigation.

    I did, however email Suzi Dodt and ask who had authorization to view MJD's medical records just in case we are allowed to see them.









    Also, for South Mountain graduating class of '00, no D.M.A. initialed people that I couldn't find on myspace or facebook were listed in the yearbook, unfortunately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VASHLEY88 View Post
    I am not sure if this holds true for MJD case since it has been almost 10 years..

    But before I made a call to obtain a form to get excess to her medical examiner report, I called my step father who is a federal law enforcement agent and asked him some questions regarding the situation.

    I explained the situation to him, and told him what we were doing here and he said that I probably would not be authorized access to her ME report because her case is still being investigated.

    Even he himself wouldn't have access because he needs probable cause to obtain those records (i.e. probably reasons beyond just identifying her)

    Although in some cases he said that ME/autopsy reports can become public records.. it probably won't hold true in her case because it seems as though her case is still pending investigation.

    I did, however email Suzi Dodt and ask who had authorization to view MJD's medical records just in case we are allowed to see them.









    Also, for South Mountain graduating class of '00, no D.M.A. initialed people that I couldn't find on myspace or facebook were listed in the yearbook, unfortunately.

    I have done some research on this, just in case my step father made a flaw in his explanation, and it doesn't seem too far off at all.

    I read that if a person other than next of kin asks to view the ME report, a brief explanation of cause/manner of death is released. And that has already been released about our MJD.

    Why would they make the statement about the form to obtain it, though? I guess they are assuming you're law enforcement?


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    Quote Originally Posted by VASHLEY88 View Post
    I have done some research on this, just in case my step father made a flaw in his explanation, and it doesn't seem too far off at all.

    I read that if a person other than next of kin asks to view the ME report, a brief explanation of cause/manner of death is released. And that has already been released about our MJD.

    Why would they make the statement about the form to obtain it, though? I guess they are assuming you're law enforcement?

    I thought this might be the case. My feeling was that because they were instructing us to call and ask for a request form, the report most likely was not a matter of public record. How can we get around the fact that we're not interested in the COD or how it happened, but just the potentially identifying factors? Any ideas? Suzi knows what we're doing here....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    I thought this might be the case. My feeling was that because they were instructing us to call and ask for a request form, the report most likely was not a matter of public record. How can we get around the fact that we're not interested in the COD or how it happened, but just the potentially identifying factors? Any ideas? Suzi knows what we're doing here....
    Suzi must be thinking, "how the hell is knowing the toxicology information and the weight of her lungs going to help these people identify her?!"

    I guess making an inquiry to the ME office and stating just that.. that we don't want any information on her initial examination for death-related purposes.. but want additional information pertaining to features she may have had prior to death.

    Did she have any scars?

    Did she have any birthmarks?

    What, exactly in detail did her tattoo look like? How big was it?

    Was her hair naturally straight/curly/wavy?

    What did her teeth look like? Were they gapped, crooked, straight?

    Besides the location where she was first picked up, what on her body makes them believe she may have been a prostitute or living on the streets?

    Those are all questions I want to know, and I think are important in identifying her, and I believe they have that information somewhere!


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    Quote Originally Posted by VASHLEY88 View Post
    Suzi must be thinking, "how the hell is knowing the toxicology information and the weight of her lungs going to help these people identify her?!"

    I guess making an inquiry to the ME office and stating just that.. that we don't want any information on her initial examination for death-related purposes.. but want additional information pertaining to features she may have had prior to death.

    Did she have any scars?

    Did she have any birthmarks?

    What, exactly in detail did her tattoo look like? How big was it?

    Was her hair naturally straight/curly/wavy?

    What did her teeth look like? Were they gapped, crooked, straight?

    Besides the location where she was first picked up, what on her body makes them believe she may have been a prostitute or living on the streets?

    Those are all questions I want to know, and I think are important in identifying her, and I believe they have that information somewhere!
    Suzi has already implied that we know everything there is to know from the ME report. That's why this "new" information about the ring is so disturbing to me. If there actually was a ring, then we don't really know everything there is to know. And....it makes me wonder what else has been overlooked or omitted. AND, it has also been implied that Alonzo and Lindsay have nothing more to add and have obviously never been charged. If this case is still under investigation - other than determining her identity - WHY???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    Suzi has already implied that we know everything there is to know from the ME report. That's why this "new" information about the ring is so disturbing to me. If there actually was a ring, then we don't really know everything there is to know. And....it makes me wonder what else has been overlooked or omitted. AND, it has also been implied that Alonzo and Lindsay have nothing more to add and have obviously never been charged. If this case is still under investigation - other than determining her identity - WHY???
    Plus, if the A and L said she was getting high, then she should have tested for it when they got her to the ER-they would have looked for other drugs as well so they knew how to treat her...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    Suzi has already implied that we know everything there is to know from the ME report. That's why this "new" information about the ring is so disturbing to me. If there actually was a ring, then we don't really know everything there is to know. And....it makes me wonder what else has been overlooked or omitted. AND, it has also been implied that Alonzo and Lindsay have nothing more to add and have obviously never been charged. If this case is still under investigation - other than determining her identity - WHY???
    This case just doesn't seem like it was combed over too well. I am only implying that her case may still be being investigated because I have read various times they were "not satisfied" with AF and LD's stories/answers and they have recently been involved in a follow up of the case.

    What else is there to follow up on?


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    Quote Originally Posted by believe09 View Post
    Plus, if the A and L said she was getting high, then she should have tested for it when they got her to the ER-they would have looked for other drugs as well so they knew how to treat her...
    Yes, if she tested positive for THC then AF and LD were probably telling the truth about that, but it was never mentioned if she did have that or any other drug in her system. I don't think it's relevant to identifying her, though. I mean, it could be if she was a regular pot smoker or something and she was known for it.

    It's just that if the ring was mentioned then, and the ME office claims that all of the information they can possibly give to identify her is posted on the site, I'm not quite sure I believe that if other possessions are just coming up because people have paid for newspaper articles. If no one had done that, the ring still wouldn't exist to us.

    I wonder if they searched Alonzo's car for anything that may have been hers..
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