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    Gunman shoots ex-wife, kids; 5 dead

    Largo, Florida - Largo Police have confirmed that Oliver Bernsdorff, 36, shot his ex-wife and her lover at a Largo apartment complex and then allegedly shot his children in Clearwater.
    Bernsdorff then shot himself while in his car near the Sunshine Skyway.
    That brings the death toll to five.

    http://www.tampabays10.com/news/loca...?storyid=69780


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    Wow, how sad. I'm thinking this time of year adds to stress. What a handsome man. Who almost eerily looks a lot like an ex of mine and my sons godfather. After reading his sight he had so much going for him, and his kids were so beautiful.

    There is never an excuse to harm your children or yourself, or an ex......
    but I wonder if he lost it as a "man" that his ex was involved with a woman. Where the hell was his support system during this time....and why do some men choose not too seek support.

    Prayers for those left with this terrible loss so close to the holidays.
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    How ironic. "Sunshine Skyway"


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    2luvmy is offline RIP Ragdoll. You don't get to choose how you're going to die, or when. You can only decide how you're going to live now.
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    Reading his letters to his daughter and son before they were born just about killed me.

    Here's a snipppet - http://www.bernsdorff.us/letter2.htm

    To Olivia:

    "I think also about the world you are coming into. I think of the pain and suffering abundant in these times. What gives me hope is the stories of the lives of those before you, who were born into hurricanes of turmoil. They not only rose out of the destruction, but they rebuilt the world around them, and tried and oft succeeded in making that world a better place. You will not be born into such a hurricane, and as such you have an additional duty to be watchful for storms on the horizon, and to take action against them. Let this be your homage to those who have made this world more peaceful, and have done so despite their strife and circumstances. Your first name, as mine, means "bringer of peace." Whether that is in the smallest corner of the world, or across the galaxies may you stay true to it."

    To Magnus:http://www.bernsdorff.us/magnuslet1.htm

    "As for me personally, I vow to try to teach you to be gentle, but not passive; to love the fruits of life, to learn from others, to trust your heart, and use your head. I vow to love you enough to let you fall, fail, and hurt, because I will dance with you in joyous celebration when you have learned from those experiences and have grown stronger and wiser. I vow to embrace you with love, to hold your hand, to 'get your back..' But, I also vow to love you enough to let you go, to step aside, to watch from a distance and see you soar when the times call for it. I vow to have high expectations of you in the areas of ethics and thoughtfulness. I have made the same promises to your sister. She has taught me so much about myself and about being a parent."


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    Picture of Jennifer and the children here:

    http://www.bernsdorff.us/jenns.htm


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    Why, why, why do these guys always kill the kids? It just makes me want to cry.

    I guess I could understand killing the ex in a fit of passion or something. Not that it's right, but I could see someone "snapping" and doing that. But why kill the kids?

    These stories just tear me up.
    Just thinkin' out loud....



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    Quote Originally Posted by 2luvmy View Post
    Reading his letters to his daughter and son before they were born just about killed me.

    Here's a snipppet - http://www.bernsdorff.us/letter2.htm

    To Olivia:

    "I think also about the world you are coming into. I think of the pain and suffering abundant in these times. What gives me hope is the stories of the lives of those before you, who were born into hurricanes of turmoil. They not only rose out of the destruction, but they rebuilt the world around them, and tried and oft succeeded in making that world a better place. You will not be born into such a hurricane, and as such you have an additional duty to be watchful for storms on the horizon, and to take action against them. Let this be your homage to those who have made this world more peaceful, and have done so despite their strife and circumstances. Your first name, as mine, means "bringer of peace." Whether that is in the smallest corner of the world, or across the galaxies may you stay true to it."

    To Magnus:http://www.bernsdorff.us/magnuslet1.htm

    "As for me personally, I vow to try to teach you to be gentle, but not passive; to love the fruits of life, to learn from others, to trust your heart, and use your head. I vow to love you enough to let you fall, fail, and hurt, because I will dance with you in joyous celebration when you have learned from those experiences and have grown stronger and wiser. I vow to embrace you with love, to hold your hand, to 'get your back..' But, I also vow to love you enough to let you go, to step aside, to watch from a distance and see you soar when the times call for it. I vow to have high expectations of you in the areas of ethics and thoughtfulness. I have made the same promises to your sister. She has taught me so much about myself and about being a parent."

    His message to his daughter haunts me. IMO, just a little too much emphasis on tough times,the homage to overcome them and his expectations. Maybe I have read a little too much on fathers rights stuff, fathers for justice, Glenn Sacks.... but that just gave me the heebie jeebies.

    I read this from a man with high expectations but lacking the ability to deal with less than his expectations. I read that in the faces from the family pictures as well.
    ~JMO~

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    It's amazing. They all look very happy in the photos at their website. I don't know what went wrong in the marriage. Obviously, there was something very wrong with this guy if he could murder his ex-wife and especially his children. So, his wife became a lesbian. Who had custody of the children?


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    That's exactly what I was thinking too. They looked (from pics) to have a great life together.. The wife was probably a lesbian all along but trying to stick to societies expectations of her so she married a man and had children then realized she couldnt hide who she was any longer... The husband snapped? I don't know... just sad!!



    Quote Originally Posted by nanandjim View Post
    It's amazing. They all look very happy in the photos at their website. I don't know what went wrong in the marriage. Obviously, there was something very wrong with this guy if he could murder his ex-wife and especially his children. So, his wife became a lesbian. Who had custody of the children?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mygirlsadie View Post
    That's exactly what I was thinking too. They looked (from pics) to have a great life together.. The wife was probably a lesbian all along but trying to stick to societies expectations of her so she married a man and had children then realized she couldnt hide who she was any longer... The husband snapped? I don't know... just sad!!
    I figured that she was probably a lesbian but wanted the American dream of a husband and children. He probably felt very betrayed, as if she had lied.


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    I think he's scum. He killed innocent people because of his inability to cope.

    Maybe if he'd just went off by himself I'd think differently. He had no right to harm anyone else, esp children.

    So his manhood was hurt. Big deal. No reason to kill your kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BhamMama View Post
    I think he's scum. He killed innocent people because of his inability to cope.

    Maybe if he'd just went off by himself I'd think differently. He had no right to harm anyone else, esp children.

    So his manhood was hurt. Big deal. No reason to kill your kids.
    I 100% agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BhamMama View Post
    I think he's scum. He killed innocent people because of his inability to cope.

    Maybe if he'd just went off by himself I'd think differently. He had no right to harm anyone else, esp children.

    So his manhood was hurt. Big deal. No reason to kill your kids.
    That's what i think too.. his masculinity is suffering so he goes and kills his whole family = POS


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    Not that this has anything to do with it, but Andrea Pisanello was 53 yrs old. That just struck me as interesting.

    Why couldn't Oliver just killed himself? I can't believe he shot his own children. How does one do that? It's sick.


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