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    I am writing a paper for my Criminal Investigation course on this case. I have a few questions so if anyone can help me out I would appreciate it very much. The first thing Id like to know is who exactly gave the description of what Mr Williams was wearing before he went missing.Whom did he tell that he was going duck hunting? Im assuming that all of the"last knowns" were given to police by his wife is that correct?

    After reviewing the information I was able to locate it seems very clear that his wife and best friend had something to do with his disappearance. This case breaks my heart. What a terribly frustrating situation for Mr Williams mother to be in.I belive that this case will be solved some day, hopefully sooner rather than later.thanks for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreaD View Post
    I am writing a paper for my Criminal Investigation course on this case. I have a few questions so if anyone can help me out I would appreciate it very much. The first thing Id like to know is who exactly gave the description of what Mr Williams was wearing before he went missing.Whom did he tell that he was going duck hunting? Im assuming that all of the"last knowns" were given to police by his wife is that correct?

    After reviewing the information I was able to locate it seems very clear that his wife and best friend had something to do with his disappearance. This case breaks my heart. What a terribly frustrating situation for Mr Williams mother to be in.I belive that this case will be solved some day, hopefully sooner rather than later.thanks for your help.
    https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?t...AlligatorAlibi

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreaD View Post
    I am writing a paper for my Criminal Investigation course on this case. I have a few questions so if anyone can help me out I would appreciate it very much. The first thing Id like to know is who exactly gave the description of what Mr Williams was wearing before he went missing.Whom did he tell that he was going duck hunting? Im assuming that all of the"last knowns" were given to police by his wife is that correct?

    After reviewing the information I was able to locate it seems very clear that his wife and best friend had something to do with his disappearance. This case breaks my heart. What a terribly frustrating situation for Mr Williams mother to be in.I belive that this case will be solved some day, hopefully sooner rather than later.thanks for your help.
    Good luck writing your paper. Good questions.

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    When I watched the episode on this case, much was made of the assumption that alligators would not be eating humans at this time of year...yet at virtually the same time of year, within a month, Michelle Parker's disappearance is bringoug out the "alligator" theory once again...just curious to me.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Finding his hip boots without signs of being chewed, bitten, or any sign of gator attack ruled out his being eaten more than anything IMO.

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    What I am puzzled about is why Denise and Brian continue to live in the same house as Denise and Mike did. With the whole town talking about them for 10 years, one would have thought they would have moved by now. Given that Denise had so much insurance money paid out, why didn’t she move anyway. Most people getting $1.5million would buy a bigger, better house. There has to be a very good reason why she is staying where she is and the only reason I can think of is that there is some evidence at that house that Denise does not want anyone to find. A new purchaser may go digging in the wrong place and find something they didn’t expect. There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that Mike left the house that morning; maybe he didn’t. Could Mrs Williams get a warrant for a search? Is it possible to check for seismic activity from all that time ago? Why else would someone with that much money stay in a place where so many are talking behind her back? it doesn’t make sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    When I watched the episode on this case, much was made of the assumption that alligators would not be eating humans at this time of year...yet at virtually the same time of year, within a month, Michelle Parker's disappearance is bringoug out the "alligator" theory once again...just curious to me.
    Winter temperatures are 10+ degrees difference in north & central FL. The week Mike was reported missing, was particularily cold here. Also, many gators downstate live in canals & ponds with shallow water that doesn't chill as much as Lake Seminole's vast 40,000 acres of surface, some of it very deep. The same animals behaviour varies in different settings.

    I am so happy to see interest in Mike's case. If someone could pry open the good ol boys- school buddies- friends in high places - daddy's money buys protection & coverup, maybe Mrs Williams could finally have peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjbomber View Post
    What I am puzzled about is why Denise and Brian continue to live in the same house as Denise and Mike did. With the whole town talking about them for 10 years, one would have thought they would have moved by now. Given that Denise had so much insurance money paid out, why didn’t she move anyway. Most people getting $1.5million would buy a bigger, better house. There has to be a very good reason why she is staying where she is and the only reason I can think of is that there is some evidence at that house that Denise does not want anyone to find. A new purchaser may go digging in the wrong place and find something they didn’t expect. There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that Mike left the house that morning; maybe he didn’t. Could Mrs Williams get a warrant for a search? Is it possible to check for seismic activity from all that time ago? Why else would someone with that much money stay in a place where so many are talking behind her back? it doesn’t make sense to me.
    May I be the first to you to websleuths! Second, excellent point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noZme View Post
    Winter temperatures are 10+ degrees difference in north & central FL. The week Mike was reported missing, was particularily cold here. Also, many gators downstate live in canals & ponds with shallow water that doesn't chill as much as Lake Seminole's vast 40,000 acres of surface, some of it very deep. The same animals behaviour varies in different settings.


    There is a famous insurance fraud case in South Africa based on similar circumstances. A man was supposedly eaten alive by crocodiles in June, which is mid-winter. This was 'witnessed' by 2 other holiday makers. Investigators became suspicious when they traced phone calls between the 3 parties.

    This is the interesting part. When investigators called for help, an unusual reply came from South African Special Forces. They used to plant limpet mines on boats belonging to an 'enemy' country nearby and had records of all the divers lost to crocodile attacks. There had never been an incident in June, yet plenty had died from attacks in the other months. Further research showed that it is the breeding season and they live off stored food during this period. If we 'translate' this to the Northern Hemisphere, then there shouldn't be any attacks in December.

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    My mom and I watched a profile of this case together for the first time a couple of months back on the ID channel. At the end of the hour long episode, we both just sat there slack-jawed, in stunned silence. I didn't really put much stock in the supposition that it was too cold for alligators to feed simply because animals do break from their normal behavior patterns on rare occasion. What was far more interesting to me regarding the alligators was that apparently they were so thoughtful as to remove Mr. Williams' hip waders, jacket, and registration card prior to eating him. That worked out nicely for Mrs. Williams' didn't it?
    It's really disappointing that after selling Mr. Williams a number of high dollar amount insurance policies shortly before his disappearance and becoming romantically involved shortly thereafter, his wife and best friend were able to sell such a laughable story to not only LE, but also to the courts. And as pointed out by a previous poster, I also believe that the only reason Mrs. Williams and Mr. Winchester have remained in that home is to prevent any search activity by LE.
    Sadly, I don't believe this case will be solved either...unless and until someone does the right thing and comes forward. In the meantime however, I'll continue to hope. Thanks for listening to my humble opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneDoe91 View Post
    My mom and I watched a profile of this case together for the first time a couple of months back on the ID channel. At the end of the hour long episode, we both just sat there slack-jawed, in stunned silence. I didn't really put much stock in the supposition that it was too cold for alligators to feed simply because animals do break from their normal behavior patterns on rare occasion. What was far more interesting to me regarding the alligators was that apparently they were so thoughtful as to remove Mr. Williams' hip waders, jacket, and registration card prior to eating him. That worked out nicely for Mrs. Williams' didn't it?
    It's really disappointing that after selling Mr. Williams a number of high dollar amount insurance policies shortly before his disappearance and becoming romantically involved shortly thereafter, his wife and best friend were able to sell such a laughable story to not only LE, but also to the courts. And as pointed out by a previous poster, I also believe that the only reason Mrs. Williams and Mr. Winchester have remained in that home is to prevent any search activity by LE.
    Sadly, I don't believe this case will be solved either...unless and until someone does the right thing and comes forward. In the meantime however, I'll continue to hope. Thanks for listening to my humble opinion.
    BBM - Yes, agree that it was most amazing! Also amazing is that the waders, etc. all appeared just before the hearing to declare him dead..
    Even if it was at the height of gators eating people season, I would not believe he was attacked since there were no bite/teeth marks on anything, and they seem like brand-new when found.

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    The entire story sounds reminiscent of a similar story up North last year. The wife and husband go on a romantic little cruise, but takes the kids, he ends up missing (in the water presumably dead eaten by who knows what).....and the wife gets off scott free.

    Hmmm. There is no justice in this world.
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    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    It sounds like there was a book recently written about this case. I can only hope that it will bring more attention to this case. IMHO, there are people that are getting away with a crime and will continue to do so until someone steps up and does the right thing. Mr. Williams mother and the rest of his family deserve answers....and justice. My thoughts and prayers are with the Williams family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneDoe91 View Post
    It sounds like there was a book recently written about this case. I can only hope that it will bring more attention to this case. IMHO, there are people that are getting away with a crime and will continue to do so until someone steps up and does the right thing. Mr. Williams mother and the rest of his family deserve answers....and justice. My thoughts and prayers are with the Williams family.
    As Jerry Williams told his mom who recalled the conversation in detail, and then had it confirmed by the Experts on Alligators at the Florida University, it's TRUE, that "Alligators do not eat in the winter" they go into a kind of hiberation.,

    Jerry was said by his wife and her new husband,, (Jerry's old B.F.F.) that
    he was eaten by alligators.

    I'm looking forward to the book on this story. Let us know the title.
    "The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
    They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."

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    Sure thing Leo! The book is entitled, "Alligator Alibi" and was written by Carrie Cox. Can't wait to get my hands on a copy!

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