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    Boycott (fuquing) China!!!

    LOL.... this isn't considered cussing, is it, mods? if so i'll change the name.

    anyway..... this is a outright CHALLENGE to all your websleuthers out there (myself included)... to BOYCOTT CHINA and their crappy goods!!!

    the reasons??

    they make cheap junk that falls apart after the 3rd time you use it

    most of these goods are made in horrendous sweatshops guilty of human rights abuses

    they have ZERO regard to the environment... and ZERO regard for the health and safety of their consumers.. they have ZERO regard for the lives of our children, and the lives of our pets!!

    they have ZERO regard and respect for making QUALITY GOODS.. which used to be what america was world-famous for. all they care about is making the fattest profit possible at ANY cost!

    they are communist, if you don't want to support communism then don't buy their stuff.

    and.. we DO want to support AMERICAN WORKERS and bring back the american economy, don't we?? do we want our landfills to fill up with cheap plastic broken chinese stuff? (not that the US doesn't manufacture plastic or junk sometimes.. but china is famous for making things that don't last.)

    and while we're all it.. american chinese food is pretty disgusting too. who knows what's in that stuff? is the chicken really chicken...?? or is that what happens to the sweatshop slave workers who try to escape??
    much healthier to eat vietnamese or thai, if you're hungry for asian food.

    so here's a list of places where you can search for non-chinese products:

    http://www.madeinusa.org/

    http://www.usstuff.com/prodlac.htm

    http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/0...de-in-america/

    http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/shoppingindex.html
    (there is a good list of APPLIANCES here)..

    http://store.americanapparel.net/?kw=Main%20LP

    http://www.harryepstein.com/ (american made tools)

    http://www.maplelandmark.net/type.lasso (great wooden toys!)

    http://www.braided.com/Examples.htm (braided rugs)

    http://bowlmill.com/ (beautiful wooden bowls made in vermont since 1857!)

    http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/non_chinese_products.htm (list of goods made in the US and other non-china places)

    http://www.dansko.com/Home.aspx- (dansko shoes which i'm pretty sure are still NOT made in china)

    ethical consumer magazine- http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/

    and my favorite!!- http://www.localharvest.org/ (great locally-made food products & lists of farmer's mkts throughout the US!)

    so you see friends,, (and i'm learning this myself too.. this is a pep talk for all of us).. it CAN be done. the trick is,, we can't just got to bed bath & beyond or target or home depot and just grab something when we want it. we have to do our RESEARCH online, EDUCATE ourselves... and plan ahead. we are such a culture of 'i want it, and i want it NOW!' that we have paid a steep price for our addiction to convenience. do we have the discipline to just NOT go into these stores? this is how they 'get us'. we just need to RETRAIN ourselves... which takes time and determination.
    do we all know where the closest mom & pop hardware store is? when's the last time you've been to it? if you need something at 9 PM, can you wait til the next day to get it?
    when you need groceries, are you willing to make a plan to start buying the bulk of your food at the local organic farmer's markets on saturday mornings? or go out of your way to the nearest health food store?

    speaking of which.... i joined a CSA a few months ago... and i absolutely LOVE IT! i get a huge box of in-season, just-picked produce delivered to a site near me which i just go and pick up, after paying at the beginning of the season. it's a HUGE time-saver and a money saver too.

    anyway.. these are just some questions to SERIOUSLY start asking ourselves if this issue really does mean anything to us.

    thoughts..........??

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    Anyone have any ideas for nice MADE IN THE USA gifts for others, or yourself?? Ooh ooh ooh Ill start:

    Look at this fantastic, simple, classic, old-fashioned blanket.. What a great gift for a newlywed couple- its something that would probably last many years:

    http://www.zebulonusa.com/catalog/details.asp?id=418



    and check out these classic baby blankets:

    http://www.zebulonusa.com/catalog/details.asp?id=419
    this company has a great list of cool classic toys.. (not the crappy plastic gadgety stuff that falls apart)

    look at this lovely little mixing bowl:


    http://www.benningtonpotters.com/product/19/9


    and from my last post-- a list of places that sell classic toys, and this:

    http://bowlmill.com/ (beautiful wooden bowls made in vermont since 1857!)

    I believe in the 12 days of Xmas and usually end up giving new year's gifts anyway because I don't believe in bowing down to the capitalist consumer machine with all its pressure and stress to buy buy buy by dec 25th... because that's when THEY depend on making a large percentage of their profits. (I'm happy to support American- and other quality- goods but I will buy when I want, not when THEY want me to!)

    feel free to add to the list

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    I absolutely agree with you but lets face it..China is the next world power and we are alive during the transition. We get to see it happen. Maybe this is how the Romans felt when they collapsed as the world power of their time?
    The world is full of magical things patiently waiting for our wits to grow sharper.
    Bertrand Russell

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    I obviously dont live in the USA, but have the same ideas as you guys, I try to buy locally (as in where we live, to support our community), and Australian made products, it is hard sometimes as there are a lot of merchandise and food made in china in our stores. I try to steer away from these products as much as I can, it confuses me sometimes as why products made locally are dearer than the exported products as Im sure most countries would like to buy from within their own countries.

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    This is so frustrating! Everywhere I go to Christmas shop - especially for the stuff on the kids' lists - it is all made in China. I have no idea what is trustworthy and what is not.

    I'd love to say fuggedaboutit and buy only USA, but then it would be a sad Christmas morning. Mine are past the age of charming wooden toys, and they sure wouldn't love a hand knit blanket.

    Even Legos are made in China! I did okay for the adults, but the kids were almost impossible. I wish I knew the answer. I don't have it in me to just say no completely.

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    I've been boycotting....I won't even go to a Chinese restaurant anymore. I am convinced the Chinese are trying to kill us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linda7NJ View Post
    I've been boycotting....I won't even go to a Chinese restaurant anymore. I am convinced the Chinese are trying to kill us all.
    I know that this sounds funny - but my dad has said since I was a little girl - and I'm mid-to late 40s now - that the Chinese would be the country that eventually took over the United States. And I believe he might be right. Their products are all that stocks our shelves and with all the pet food poisoning - I think that might have just been a preclude to how they're going to try to poison our food system. Pet foods, toothpaste, toy recalls, etc., I say are simply "practice runs" to what might be a collasol food tainting agenda.

    I swear I'm beginning to sound more and more like my parents and grandparents every day!!!! Is that a sign of aging??!!
    It's my own two cents. You don't have to read or like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by less0305 View Post
    I know that this sounds funny - but my dad has said since I was a little girl - and I'm mid-to late 40s now - that the Chinese would be the country that eventually took over the United States. And I believe he might be right. Their products are all that stocks our shelves and with all the pet food poisoning - I think that might have just been a preclude to how they're going to try to poison our food system. Pet foods, toothpaste, toy recalls, etc., I say are simply "practice runs" to what might be a collasol food tainting agenda.

    I swear I'm beginning to sound more and more like my parents and grandparents every day!!!! Is that a sign of aging??!!
    It is scary, isn't it?

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    interesting mixed point of view here... from fear, to 'let's fight it', to 'it's no use, might as well give up'.

    i'm going to keep fighting. and even though it's sad to see those classic toys like legos being MIC.. i still say, there are plenty of things besides hand-woven blankets and wooden toys to give as gifts. since when do kids and teenagers dictate what they must be bought for xmas, anyway?
    how about a nice chunk of change for their future college tuition, or how about a free voucher for a trip to someplace they want to go...?
    how about some art supplies, how about some books,,, there are millions of things you could do besides buy the latest video games & gadgets that every kid & teenager now insists they must have.

    and as for decorating... of course you can't go to the usual chain store, michaels, hobby lobby, etc.. w/o buying the usual chinese xmas crap.
    but if you want to decorate, there are other ways to get creative (martha stewart always has good ideas). or you could be like me and just NOT decorate. well.. at least LIVE xmas trees are still being grown and harvested in the US... !

    and less0305-- i'm not quite convinced of what you say... it wouldn't totally shock me though!) i honestly think it's that obsessive asian trait of getting to the top of the food chain at any cost.... it seems they will do anything for a buck, and i think that is the bottom line. they put chemicals in their pet food ingredients to make a fake reading to show that their nutrient levels were up to par, by our standards. sneaky little b*stards. (oh, is that a negative stereotype? sorry-- can't imagine where i go that idea!) so, not only will your pet (or kid? or, you??) be at risk of being poisoned, but they'll be suffering from malnutrition at the same time. great.

    during xmas break it is on my list of things to do, to write every single company that i buy products from- from food, to skin lotion, to pet food.. to ask them where there ingredients come from. if nothing else, it will LET THE COMPANIES KNOW that some people actually care about the issue, and will NOT buy their stuff if they buy from china.

    maybe we are seeing the rise of the next world power, and yes, for a long time i have thought we were living in a dying empire (like rome back in the day). but i'm not going down without a fight.

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    Well my faith was restored in my local Chinese restaurant last week. While I was waiting for my take out the owner was making a grocery list. She showed me (in a sales flyer) how cheap chicken breasts were!

    I'm distressed too about everything being made in China. Everything I seem to pick up is made there - even high end clothing stores.

    I think our governments have got to do more to protect us.


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    <I think our governments have got to do more to protect us.>

    but it won't,, unless we get a president and an administration who believes in america and who gives a d*mn!

    and until then, it's up to us to VOTE with our dollars.

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    have any candidates come forth with such a platform? I'm convinced the Chinese are trying to kill us, and by poisoning the toys, it kind of insures that the next generation of Americans will be very sick. It's a very important issue to me and I would be willing to cast my vote in the direction of the candidate that treated it as such.

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    It doesn't bother me a whit to buy goods that are made in China - or anywhere else for that matter. I think the anti-Chinese movement is paranoia at its finest.

    I deeply respect and appreciate anyone's right to be paranoid about anything. I, for instance, am paranoid about people who wear Patchouli. But about China - not so much!!
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glow View Post
    I absolutely agree with you but lets face it..China is the next world power and we are alive during the transition. We get to see it happen. Maybe this is how the Romans felt when they collapsed as the world power of their time?
    Great point!
    I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death!

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    Why boycott the Chinese here in America? They are AMERICAN! Heck, ours even serve crawfish, pizza and tacos on their menu. Half the folks that work there are Mexican. I'm all for giving money to American citizens.

    And while I do boycott China made products, I make sure I write the AMERICAN company who is more concerned with the bottom line and tell them why I'm boycotting their company.

    It all boils down to the fact that they have to pay a living wage to workers here in the States and they don't have to in China. Win, win for both. The Chinese workers aren't responsible, they just want to eat, it's companies that do this.

    As for gifts. Tell people to lower their expectations, buy German, Swiss, Aussie, Canadian, or research Fair Trade companies that provide a living wage to workers. It's out there.

    There use to be an old saying out in the country where I come from, Make Do, Use it up, Wear it out. Same concept as Recycle, Reduce, Reuse. It's not a new idea. Make homemade things. Find out what you are willing to live without and do without! For a country that is as rich in assets and people with natural talents, it's a shame we have let it get to this point.

    For an interesting take on this, click the banner in my siggy. It's a 20 min, give or take, video about this very subject.

    ETA: I don't think its paranoia more than it's being a responsible citizen of Earth. I refuse to allow my children to play with toys manufactured in a place that employs other children at the expense of their health and well being just so they can be entertained for a few hours. That goes for any country that uses the same tactics.

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