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    History On The Mccann Houses

    i there people i have been doing some research on the McCanns what i have worked out that Gerry McCann did once lived at Wilton court in Glasgow and also both Gerry and Kate did live at 14 the mews Queniborough in Leicestershire from 2003 to 2006 they sold this house for 300000 to a person call Mr David Alexander John with this money they bought another house at 5 the crescent in Rothley in Leicestershire for 459950 from another person called Mr Stephen P Williams on 20/01/2006

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    $906,101 US dollars. Pretty nice abode for a couple middle class Doctors. Nearly a million dollars can buy the Ritz in Nebraska USA...LOL And to think they still had money left over for week long holiday trips to paradise. I don't think we went on vacation for 5 years after we bought our modest home...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNTERESTEDWOMAN View Post
    $906,101 US dollars. Pretty nice abode for a couple middle class Doctors. Nearly a million dollars can buy the Ritz in Nebraska USA...LOL
    Thats why we are all skint in the UK our houses cost a fortune .

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNTERESTEDWOMAN View Post
    $906,101 US dollars. Pretty nice abode for a couple middle class Doctors. Nearly a million dollars can buy the Ritz in Nebraska USA...LOL And to think they still had money left over for week long holiday trips to paradise. I don't think we went on vacation for 5 years after we bought our modest home...
    Gerry and Kate had all the money they needed when it came to getting things for themselves.

    Too bad they couldn't spare a few pounds to have a nanny take care of their vulnerable toddlers while on vacation in a foreign land.

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    Firstly they thought there was a nanny listening service. That is commonly used at resorts and hotels in Europe. because the resort was spread out throughout the village there turned out not to be one at the resort they stayed out (too long to do a circuit every 30 mins), so they just decided to check on them themselves every fifteen to half and hour. It is not something I would do, but they thought it was a safe area, and lots of people were doing it. I think it is easy to get lulled into a false sense of security on holiday, and if you look at google earth it is only 50m directly to the flat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    Firstly they thought there was a nanny listening service. That is commonly used at resorts and hotels in Europe. because the resort was spread out throughout the village there turned out not to be one at the resort they stayed out (too long to do a circuit every 30 mins), so they just decided to check on them themselves every fifteen to half and hour. It is not something I would do, but they thought it was a safe area, and lots of people were doing it. I think it is easy to get lulled into a false sense of security on holiday, and if you look at google earth it is only 50m directly to the flat.

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    The only evening that checks were undertaken at "fifteen minute to half hour" intervals, was the EVENING MADELINE DISAPPEARED.

    Every other evening, the checks had been far less frequent.

    Regardless, there is absolutely no reason why comparatively well off individuals would leave their babies alone in a strange hotel room, in a resort teeming with childcare options INCLUDING in-house nannies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    Firstly they thought there was a nanny listening service. That is commonly used at resorts and hotels in Europe. because the resort was spread out throughout the village there turned out not to be one at the resort they stayed out (too long to do a circuit every 30 mins), so they just decided to check on them themselves every fifteen to half and hour. It is not something I would do, but they thought it was a safe area, and lots of people were doing it. I think it is easy to get lulled into a false sense of security on holiday, and if you look at google earth it is only 50m directly to the flat.

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    Incorrect. They certainly knew there was no listening service there before they arrived. they even negotiated a discount on the holiday because of this. secondly, pray tell who are the lots of other people who were doing this? As for the distance being 50m, thats as the crow flies, only of course they didnt have wings. the actual walking distance was more in the region of 100 plus metres. the POINT being that they were out of ear and eyeshot so the distance is irrelevant.

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    IME, it just isn't fair to compare house prices GBP to USD. (This isn't said in defence of the McCann's either but there really is no comparison.)

    My parents had a home in Milwaukee they purchased for $149,999. 3 bedroom/2 bath fully detached home; built in microwave and dishwasher; custom cabinetry; mother in law flat; finished basement with bar; swimming pool; fully fenced and 2.5 car garage.

    My husband purchased a home here for $201,000 (USD). 2 bedroom, 1 bath mid terrace. Amenities include: indoor plumbing and central heating.

    Just sayin'. (But, um, yeah, they certainly could've forked out the cash for a nanny.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BritsKate View Post
    IME, it just isn't fair to compare house prices GBP to USD. (This isn't said in defence of the McCann's either but there really is no comparison.)

    My parents had a home in Milwaukee they purchased for $149,999. 3 bedroom/2 bath fully detached home; built in microwave and dishwasher; custom cabinetry; mother in law flat; finished basement with bar; swimming pool; fully fenced and 2.5 car garage.

    My husband purchased a home here for $201,000 (USD). 2 bedroom, 1 bath mid terrace. Amenities include: indoor plumbing and central heating.

    Just sayin'. (But, um, yeah, they certainly could've forked out the cash for a nanny.)
    You are right house prices in the Uk are just stupid. I live in London as well, so I find it strange that people think half a millon pounds for a four bedroom house is a lot. Try getting that in London. A one bedroomed grotty flat in central London will easily be half a millon.

    But back to the nanny listening service, lots of people use them. Look on the internet and you will see lots of hotels and resorts all over the EU offering these services, so obviously people are using them. Until Madeleine McCann disappeared Mark Warner used them on all their campus style resorts. I would have thought after Madeleine disappeared people would stop using these services, but apparently not.

    It was about 77 metres to walk, but you are right saggy, they were out of earshot and eyesight. It was a stupid decision, but a stupidity that seems to be shared by many people, and I do not think it is therefore indicitive of guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    You are right house prices in the Uk are just stupid. I live in London as well, so I find it strange that people think half a millon pounds for a four bedroom house is a lot. Try getting that in London. A one bedroomed grotty flat in central London will easily be half a millon.

    But back to the nanny listening service,
    lots of people use them. Look on the internet and you will see lots of hotels and resorts all over the EU offering these services, so obviously people are using them. Until Madeleine McCann disappeared Mark Warner used them on all their campus style resorts. I would have thought after Madeleine disappeared people would stop using these services, but apparently not.

    It was about 77 metres to walk, but you are right saggy, they were out of earshot and eyesight. [B]It was a stupid decision, but a stupidity that seems to be shared by many people[/B], and I do not think it is therefore indicitive of guilt.
    Regardless of the availability of nanny/babysitting/listening services, the fact remains that all these parents needed to do to ensure their babies did not wake up crying, frightened and alone (as they did the evening before) was to STAY IN (even ONE of them), or at the very least grab a quick bite and return once they had eaten. This is not what occured.

    I cannot imagine the fear and abandonment Madeline felt listening to her baby brother screaming in a dark, strange hotel room, the evening before. As a mother this makes me feel ill even thinking about it, and it would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to risk this happening to my babies again.

    This decision is not stupid, as they are not stupid people. This decision is indicative of how they regarded their children. Neglect when someone is uneducated and ill brought up themselves is one thing, but neglect where the parents concerned are educated, wealthy, upright pillars of our society smacks of a deep, deep callousness and willingness to mislead which to me, absolutely indicates guilt.

    Back to house prices - I'm not quite sure what the point of this thread would be, except to confirm they had access to quite a lot of money.

    But we knew that, simply by their careers.

    They have a very nice lifestyle indeed, propped up now as it is by the Find Madeline Fund.


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    A hospital doctor (who still uses the title doctor, and not mister or professor), and a part time locum GP, are not going to be that wealthy. A half a millon pound house does not in the UK indicate access to a lot of money. If anything it more thna likely means they do not have a lot of spare money (the fact they used a mark warner resort holiday also indicates that they did not have a lot of money).

    Can I just as if you are now claiming the find madeleine fund (which submits accounts each year to company house) is being used to fund the Mccanns living costs?

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    http://www.findmadeleine.com/about_u...ines-fund.html

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    Madeleine's Fund - 'Leaving No Stone Unturned' is a not-for-profit company which has been established to find Madeleine McCann, support her family and bring her abductors to justice.

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    Do the accounts say how it supports her family? I had no problem with them using it to pay their mortgage when they were staying in Portugal (if I were in a similar situation and suddenly faced with paying for two homes, I would take the help if I thought that enabled me to look for my child), but are they actually using it now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    Do the accounts say how it supports her family? I had no problem with them using it to pay their mortgage when they were staying in Portugal (if I were in a similar situation and suddenly faced with paying for two homes, I would take the help if I thought that enabled me to look for my child), but are they actually using it now?
    how would anyone know seeing as the accounts do NOT give any breakdown whatsoever on where all the money has specifically been spent.

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    Yes. Further, it pays fees to the Board of Directors which includes Kate's uncle, and Gerry's brother.

    The exact phrase is -

    To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine's family.

    This broad definition can include aunts, uncles, grandparents, or anyone else who sacrifices a room in their house for an "office", including Kate.

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