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Thread: Cayle Bywater-Athen, GA-Missing 12-29-07

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelmom View Post
    Since Cayle disappeared we have had one cold spell where it was getting down into the teens, but mostly we have been having absolutely gorgeous, perfect weather. We were out in short sleeves all this week enjoying the sunny skies and temps in the mid 60s.
    Just what I thought. There was no way the pond froze over to allow Cayle to get into the deep part. Which brings me to my next questions. How deep is that pond? How far away were her glasses found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    Just what I thought. There was no way the pond froze over to allow Cayle to get into the deep part. Which brings me to my next questions. How deep is that pond? How far away were her glasses found?

    Earlier today, I talked with my cousin and with my son and his girlfriend, all of whom have been to Memorial Park in Athens and have seen the bathroom area near where her glasses were found as well as the lake area. I asked if it would be easy or if they thought it probable that Cayle could have just slipped into the lake and drowned. All three said, "No". My cousin went as far as to suggest that the "lake" which she would refer to as really more of a large pond, probably was not even deep enough to be over waist deep at its deepest point. (her opinion)

    If I remember correctly it was from reports from Cayle's website and online in the Athen's Banner Herald which suggested that relatives felt that, due to her Bipolar, maybe she could have become disoriented.

    Look at the photograph of Cayle at the park with her dog, on her website, (link in an earlier post above) taken the day she went missing. There is an 'out of kilter look' or unusual body position as if she was startled or being pulled forward suddenly by her dog on the leash. It could have been simply a bad candid photo showing her in the background, or she was having issues with disorientation or possibly an unruly, un trained dog was leading her around the park, not the other way around.

    At best, all of the above is based on only on opinion, which as we all know, everyone has one, so I'm not sure how valid it is.

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    Great info Angelwings. The photos of the divers indicate that they were able to stand up in the pond. The photo of Cayle is interesting for a couple of reasons. It shows the weather isn't bad. Cayle does look to be alarmed or in motion. She was in a playground. I highly doubt that playground is by the pond. Not sure yet where I'm going with that thought.

    If Cayle was lucid enough to find her dog and put it on a leash. Then she was probably lucid enough not to wander into a pond, IMO. Very cute dog, BTW.

    Another thought about the GMH connection. We know a misbehaving dog, especially one running loose, would be enough to cause GMH to react violently.

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    I think at this point, we shouldn't necessarily rule him out on this case. Until it's proven he was in a 'different' county at the time, IMHO, he's still suspect for this case.

    Look how many counties he traveled with Meredith!

    JMHO
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    I don't think they should rule him out too soon either, but I understand why it looks unlikely that GMH killed Cayle. There are witnesses coming out of the woodwork who have seen GMH on the trails and near other crime locations, but not one yet who saw him near Athens.

    Also, I would find it hard to believe that he could do a "soft kill" with Cayle when he was mentally in a place where he had just finished murdering and dismembering Cheryl Dunlap and only two days before he did the same to Meredith.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...cxntlid=inform

    "Investigators don't see any connection because there's no evidence that Hilton has been in Athens and there's no evidence of violence to her body," Clarke County coroner Bobby Tribble said. "There are no obvious signs of trauma."

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelmom View Post
    I don't think they should rule him out too soon either, but I understand why it looks unlikely that GMH killed Cayle. There are witnesses coming out of the woodwork who have seen GMH on the trails and near other crime locations, but not one yet who saw him near Athens.

    Also, I would find it hard to believe that he could do a "soft kill" with Cayle when he was mentally in a place where he had just finished murdering and dismembering Cheryl Dunlap and only two days before he did the same to Meredith.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news...cxntlid=inform

    "Investigators don't see any connection because there's no evidence that Hilton has been in Athens and there's no evidence of violence to her body," Clarke County coroner Bobby Tribble said. "There are no obvious signs of trauma."
    I agree with you angelmom. I don't think this is GMH.

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    Something tells me this is foul play, but I'm not sure about it being GMH because of the proximity to the dates. However, it is obvious that GMH turned into a spree killer.

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    I also think it's unfortunate that they threw the bipolar thing out there immediately and published it as a possible theory to what happened. I have never heard of using the characteristics disoriented and confused to describe a bipolar person. News to me. If her dog had gotten lose from her and she was looking for him or trying to catch up with him, maybe that is why her expression was misinterpreted? I mean, generally, when someone is in the process of looking for something they can't find they have a look of uncertainty about them. And that is great how these witnesses who say she looked disoriented/confused did nothing to find out if she was ok or if she needed help.
    A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination.
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    Bumping for Cayle...

    anyone know if there's been any progress on this case? Has it gone cold?
    Some people do crossword puzzles or Soduko in their spare time...I look at skeletal reconstructions and work on UID puzzles. I swear I'm not this morbid in person!

    Help Fred Murray find his daughter and bring her home. He should not be walking those woods alone!
    What Happened to Maura Murray? http://www.mauramurraymissing.com

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    Another Athens local dropping in. I can't believe I had never even heard of this case.. and it happened less than a year before I first moved to Athens for school!

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226904"]Found Deceased GA - Rebecca Elaine Greene, 22, Athens, 19 November 2013 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame] Bringing over Rebecca Greene's thread. Rebecca was another UGA student who went missing last month and was found in shallow water, no foul play was declared but it's still rather strange.
    It's a magical world, Hobbes, ol' buddy.

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