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    Timelines

    Compiled by LITTLEDEER


    My recap of presser is long: Skip over if not interested.

    This is what I have from my hastily written notes during the press conference. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE NOT FACTS. Only what I scribbled and I am not PERFECT. Question marks are because I did not hear specifically and will not make a guess on what was said.
    If there is anything GLARING WRONG, PLEASE PLEASE CORRECT!!! Also, add what I didn't catch!
    This looks real nice here in my WordPad, but it will probably come out all scrambled once I copy to WS. so sorry!!!!

    March 26 and April 11: Two Sexual Assaults (I have 5/26 written down as the second date?) The first ones are from a poster.

    May 11: Chief Officer notified...Went to UAA (Forgot what this acronym stands for)

    Date (?): Medical Exam done on Maria
    No Rape Kit
    Pregnancy Test: Negative

    May 11: Rape Investigation Opened

    May 12: WMPO Written: Leauran to have no contact with Maria: 1,000 feet away
    Maria Reassigned Across Base
    Supposedly still interact daily: But no signs of force or threats known or seen

    May 18: Cesar Denies Rape Allegation

    May 24: 2nd WMPO Written

    May 18 to June 24: Maria on Leave in Ohio
    Comes back on base June 25th: Exhibits no sign of anxiety, etc.

    June 25: 3rd WMPO Written: Effective until 9/24

    June 27: Maria seeks Medical Test, Tests positive for pregnancy. Estimated time of conception 5/14/07

    July 11 to July 26 - Cesar on Leave
    Comes back on base: No indication of contact between him and Maria

    September 17 (?) Maria request off base housing

    September 20: 4th WMPO Written: Effective until 12/23

    Officers (NCIS, JAG) ? developing Case

    September 26 to October 2 - Maria on Leave

    October 18: Maria told DNA needed from baby

    October 22: New Services for Prosecutor to review
    Article 22: Can have witnesses, questions, etc.

    October 23: ?????

    October 31: Maria's request to move off base approved

    November 5: Maria moves: Rent's from Durham

    November 4 to November 13: Leave - LA? Possibly talking about Durham????

    November 26: Maria shows for Doctor's Appointment

    December 14: Cesar reports to duty (Not at x-mas party) Not mandatory to show
    Durham finds note from Maria: I'm going away.......finds items missing (clothes, personal items, and car)
    Durham calls Maria's sister and also talks to Maria's mother
    Supposedly Command is not notified until December 27 (about what??)

    December 18: Maria's mother notified

    December 19: LE in Ohio contact Military and Sheriff's Office about Maria being Missing

    December 20: Durham notifies Commander he is leaving on December 27 to CA for duty

    December 21: Holiday on Base (?)

    December 24: $400 withdrawn from Maria's account (some heard $700)

    December 26: Maria doesn't show for Doctor's Appointment

    December 27: Base calls Mom: She states no contact with Maria

    December 28: Maria's belongings are taken from Durhams Home

    January 2: ????

    January 3: Inventory taken of Maria's belongings and reinventoried

    January 4: Marines request 10 day letter (?) Want additional information from Mother when Maria called her

    January 7: Maria's Mother and Uncle show up on Base: 1st indication of Foul Play by Marines

    January 8: 5th WMPO written: Effective until March 28, 2008

    January 9: Laurean @ Sheriff's Office with Attorneys (?): No Miranda Rights given
    On phone with Commanding Officer (?) possibly Laurean requesting leave which was approved

    January 10: Laurean calls for leave: To meet with attorneys - Approved
    Asks for leave for January 11 to meet with Attorneys: Approved: To call In on Friday in AM

    January 11: Laurean doesn't call in. Fails to report to Work. Reported UA

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    i know this article is posted on the media links thread, but i think it's fitting for this one also.....timeline, per the military with exact dates....

    http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauter.../lcpl_cpl.html

    & thanks for starting this, golfmom

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    I got this from the LeJeune presser timeline (thanks again, Close)

    "On Friday, December 14, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach reported to work as normal. The work day ended at 12 noon as the command was having a Christmas party. Attendance was not mandatory and LCpl Lauterbach elected not to attend. ...

    . . . when Sgt Durham arrives home from work, he finds a note left for him by LCpl Lauterbach stating, “I could not take this Marine Corps life anymore. So I am going away. Sorry for the inconvenience. Maria.” Sgt Durham notices that some of her personal items are missing. She does not leave the house key behind. Sgt Durham calls LCpl Lauterbach’s sister concerning the note. Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA.”

    http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauter.../lcpl_cpl.html

    * Since the work day ended at 12, I wonder what time Durham got home and read the note? IOW, how much time elapsed between the time Maria left work and Durham found the note she supposedly wrote?

    * Does anyone know what the sister supposedly said?

    * Maria had just moved into the house with Durham on 11/05 ...... and by 12/14 Durham knows enough about her "personal items" to know some of them are missing?

    * Why did Durham give official "UA" notice via text message within such a short time of reading the note? I mean, wouldnt most people be more likely to wait a day or so to see whether she would call or change her mind come back? Why get her in trouble on 12/14 when she wasn't due back on base until Monday 12/17? Is this the way Marines normally treat each other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    I got this from the LeJeune presser timeline (thanks again, Close)

    "On Friday, December 14, 2007, LCpl Lauterbach reported to work as normal. The work day ended at 12 noon as the command was having a Christmas party. Attendance was not mandatory and LCpl Lauterbach elected not to attend. ...

    . . . when Sgt Durham arrives home from work, he finds a note left for him by LCpl Lauterbach stating, “I could not take this Marine Corps life anymore. So I am going away. Sorry for the inconvenience. Maria.” Sgt Durham notices that some of her personal items are missing. She does not leave the house key behind. Sgt Durham calls LCpl Lauterbach’s sister concerning the note. Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA.”

    http://www.newbernsj.com/news/lauter.../lcpl_cpl.html

    * Since the work day ended at 12, I wonder what time Durham got home and read the note? IOW, how much time elapsed between the time Maria left work and Durham found the note she supposedly wrote?

    * Does anyone know what the sister supposedly said?

    * Maria had just moved into the house with Durham on 11/05 ...... and by 12/14 Durham knows enough about her "personal items" to know some of them are missing?
    i guess maybe after reading the note, he started looking around...might have noticed her toiletries gone (shampoo, make-up, deodorant etc...) .... checked the closet/drawers & clothes were gone....that's how i picture it anyway.....

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    but WAIT!!....ok, Durham said Maria didn't leave the house key there....SO, is it possible that Cesar DID go into the home on the 14th, throw some things together in a bag, write a fake note from Maria?????....gosh, if she got off at noon, he'd been a busy boy if this is the case.....

    nawww, i still tend to think that she purchased the bus ticket the next day (the 15th).....course that would mean she'd have stayed somewhere the night of the 14th....i'm surprised that if this is the case, no one's come out to say she stayed at their hotel/motel.......

    LOL, i'm going in circles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by close_enough View Post
    i guess maybe after reading the note, he started looking around...might have noticed her toiletries gone (shampoo, make-up, deodorant etc...) .... checked the closet/drawers & clothes were gone....that's how i picture it anyway.....
    It's true we can fill in the gaps using our imagining all sorts of reasonable scenarios, but is that the way marines usually treat each other?

    I mean, a "UA" is a serious thing, isn't it?
    Why would he do a text message tattle so precipitously?

    That note was extremely flimsy on details. It wouldnt convince me that someone wasn't actually coming back.
    She could have been going to a hotel for the weekend.

    If someone is planning to go away for good, thery would have taken more than some toiletries ...... and how would he know what she usually kept in her drawers? Something isnt adding up about Durham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    It's true we can fill in the gaps using our imagining all sorts of reasonable scenarios, but is that the way marines usually treat each other?
    I mean, a "UA" is a serious thing, isn't it?
    Why would he do a text message tattle so precipitously?

    That note was extremely flimsy on details. It wouldnt convince me that someone wasn't actually coming back.
    She could have been going to a hotel for the weekend.
    i have no idea, Seven.....i just tend to think that when it all comes down, marines are human beings too.....maybe since the letter stated that she was tired of/couldn't handle marine life anymore, he just assumed???....i really don't know....maybe it's common to do lots of texting??? ....lol, one WOULD think he'd deliver this kind of info in person to one of Maria's superiors....not sure why he text'd the sister instead of simply calling her....maybe she didn't answer the phone....i must assume that Durham knew the sister was a person to notify if there was a problem with Maria....

    i just don't know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    It's true we can fill in the gaps using our imagining all sorts of reasonable scenarios, but is that the way marines usually treat each other?

    I mean, a "UA" is a serious thing, isn't it?
    Why would he do a text message tattle so precipitously?

    That note was extremely flimsy on details. It wouldnt convince me that someone wasn't actually coming back.
    She could have been going to a hotel for the weekend.

    If someone is planning to go away for good, thery would have taken more than some toiletries ...... and how would he know what she usually kept in her drawers? Something isnt adding up about Durham.
    hmmmm, well if i was packing up to leave (like for a very long stay, or forever) there would be some empty drawers & big gap in my closet where clothes hang....my sock & underwear drawer would be left to nothing.....

    just speculating....i'm curious about Sgt Durham also, though...

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    Just want to catch you before this turns into a posting area. It should only be for timelines.

    Please put over at the Missing 8 mos. Pregnant thread or at Christina's Impossible Involvement Thread.

    Or start a thread Titled Timelines: For Discussion

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    but it doesn't say "no discussion"


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Thanks, LD. Now we should probably go back and delete our OT posts on this one.
    well that's silly, ...why can't this be a thread for discussing timelines????

    start a new thread for timelines "no discussion"....why have us move all the posts here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by close_enough View Post
    i have no idea, Seven.....i just tend to think that when it all comes down, marines are human beings too.....maybe since the letter stated that she was tired of/couldn't handle marine life anymore, he just assumed???....i really don't know....maybe it's common to do lots of texting??? ....lol, one WOULD think he'd deliver this kind of info in person to one of Maria's superiors....not sure why he text'd the sister instead of simply calling her....maybe she didn't answer the phone....i must assume that Durham knew the sister was a person to notify if there was a problem with Maria....

    i just don't know...
    That's okay, CE ....... I was just testing to see if I could find any holes in the explanation.

    I wasn't talking about texting the sister. I was talking about this line: "Shortly after this conversation, LCpl Lauterbach’s Mother calls Sgt Durham. Sgt Durham text messages a junior member of LCpl Lauterbach’s work section indicating his belief she was going into an Unauthorized Absence status, commonly referred to as “going UA."

    As soon as he got through talking on the phone to first the sister and then the mother, he sent a text message to Maria's workplace, telling them he BELIEVED she was leaving in an unauthorized manner.

    Wouldn't most people have given it a few hours or maybe even the weekend before making such a serious notification of an illegal activity that had not even occurred yet? She was not going to be "UA" until Monday, 12/17 .... and Durham knew that.

    anyway .... sun coming up .... gotta catch a few winks.

    This one's got me spinning.

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    If you will go look at other forums and notice the timeline threads are there for a reason. It is to compile them for future reference. If they are mixed in with a bunch of posts...it takes too long...which is the VERY reason we have timeline no discussion threads! CONVENIENCE!
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    If you will go look at other forums and notice the timeline threads are there for a reason. It is to compile them for future reference. If they are mixed in with a bunch of posts...it takes too long...which is the VERY reason we have timeline no discussion threads! CONVENIENCE!
    i started a thread for "no discussion" timeline

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    Quote Originally Posted by close_enough View Post
    i started a thread for "no discussion" timeline
    Great! Would you please move all of the timelines we have already posted and outlined over there as they are here?
    "WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
    THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
    AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"

    A quote spray painted on the wall by search
    and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.



    What I post are my opinions only.

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