MaddyDecaf
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Hi Everyone,
My post is in earnest. I'm concerned because, while I've read that WS is 'victim-friendly' ... I am upset that this may be synonymous with assumed (automatic and happy) guilt thrown upon a potential perpetrator -- without substantial evidence.
I do not ascribe to WS being judge and jury. (I don't ascribe to any citizen being judge and jury, because I put myself in the position of circumstance -- and -- it should be assumed [because it's TRUE] that I'm a law-abiding, compassionate citizen -- who thinks and feels ....... and is horrified by the atrocities commited by people who live by a subset of rules our [assumed] civilization has put into place.)
Here's how I feel, based ONLY on LOGIC:
DP hasn't been arrested and I'm sure there's a reason. Granted, it's LIKELY because the investigative team is making sure their ducks are precisely in a row before bringing charges which could be easily dimissed/disputed by a defense team.
I AGREE WITH YOU that this is likely the case.
I FEEL HIS IS LIKELY a perpetrator, but ONLY because of what I've read via the media (like all of you.)
On the other hand, I object to postings which ask why he's 'free' to roam this land, with his children ... to take them to Disneyland over the holiday season .... to question his ability to care for his children, given that he IS innocent unless proven otherwise.
My opinions don't count for squat.
Likewise, your opinions don't either.
This IS the premise on which our freedom of speech, free will and whole lot of general 'free to roam about the cabin' has been founded.
You cannot have it both ways.
You either wish for the US to maintain it's constitution, or you wish for anyone to be hanged based on popular poll.
(I'm just sayin'...)
I am in FAVOR of "victim-friendly" thought process. I object to the notion that a person who wishes to wait for EVIDENCE-before-indictment is somehow deemed PRO-perpetrator.
This doesn't sit well with me. It is unfair. Our opinions are NOT law -- and never will be.
And then I remember that I am not a victim.
I have never been a victim -- of much at all, other than the average petty crime -- and have always used the justice system to correct acts against me.
So then ... does that mean I'm not qualified to be here?
Does it mean my wish to adhere to and respect our justice system makes me as much a perpetrator as a criminal?
Does this mean that I'm not "victim-friendly?"
What does "victim-friendly" mean?
Does it mean that .... just because someone yells 'fire' ... there IS a fire? That if someone yells 'WOLF!" ... there IS a wolf?
I am reminded ... suddenly ... of "the boy who cried wolf."
Why hasn't the majority of society learned from that fable?
I am unwilling to hang anyone unless HARD evidence shows that charges are warranted.
(I'm 'silly' like that...heheh)
And, in this case, it may never happen!
We do not know.
There's no evidence of Kathleen's murder (so far.)
There's no evidence that Stacy is even deceased, let alone murdered (so far.)
If charges are never brought against him ... what then? Will you 'hate' our system? Will you accuse the investigative team (including the FBI, in this case) of being totally incompetent losers ... just because they couldn't find evidence to support your opinions?
If Stacy surfaces (fat chance, I agree) .. what then? Will you be satisfied to 'hate' DP as a guy who has a history of abuse towards women ... and go along your merry way?
Do I think Stacy will surface? Nah.
Do I feel, in my bones, that she was murdered? Yep.
Do I feel DP murdered her? Probably, but I need evidence.
How can any of you be 100% certain?
And if you ARE 100% certain, why?
Is it because he's so smug and obnoxious? (Yes, he IS!)
Is it because he's a cop and cops have a history of certain behavioral criteria (which is WHY they become cops in the first place?)
And last, but hardly least ... if you were DP -- and ASSuming you don't have a need to be obnoxious, how would you proceed (considering the circumstances) if you knew FOR A FACT that you were innocent?
I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT I FEEL HE IS INNOCENT!!!!
I'm hoping to gleen some insight into the minds of those who feel he is absolutely guilty ......... right NOW ......... based on media coverage and willy-nilly thoughts written on a website by Stacy's family members ..................... without being privy to HARD evidence collected to date.
I feel the need to stress this: I hope (dream, hope) this thread to be dialogue discussed geared by logic and NOT emotion. If you can't contain your emotion (based on your own experience/s) please don't berate me for wishing to have a calm discussion, okay?
Thanks for the mutual respect.
My post is in earnest. I'm concerned because, while I've read that WS is 'victim-friendly' ... I am upset that this may be synonymous with assumed (automatic and happy) guilt thrown upon a potential perpetrator -- without substantial evidence.
I do not ascribe to WS being judge and jury. (I don't ascribe to any citizen being judge and jury, because I put myself in the position of circumstance -- and -- it should be assumed [because it's TRUE] that I'm a law-abiding, compassionate citizen -- who thinks and feels ....... and is horrified by the atrocities commited by people who live by a subset of rules our [assumed] civilization has put into place.)
Here's how I feel, based ONLY on LOGIC:
DP hasn't been arrested and I'm sure there's a reason. Granted, it's LIKELY because the investigative team is making sure their ducks are precisely in a row before bringing charges which could be easily dimissed/disputed by a defense team.
I AGREE WITH YOU that this is likely the case.
I FEEL HIS IS LIKELY a perpetrator, but ONLY because of what I've read via the media (like all of you.)
On the other hand, I object to postings which ask why he's 'free' to roam this land, with his children ... to take them to Disneyland over the holiday season .... to question his ability to care for his children, given that he IS innocent unless proven otherwise.
My opinions don't count for squat.
Likewise, your opinions don't either.
This IS the premise on which our freedom of speech, free will and whole lot of general 'free to roam about the cabin' has been founded.
You cannot have it both ways.
You either wish for the US to maintain it's constitution, or you wish for anyone to be hanged based on popular poll.
(I'm just sayin'...)
I am in FAVOR of "victim-friendly" thought process. I object to the notion that a person who wishes to wait for EVIDENCE-before-indictment is somehow deemed PRO-perpetrator.
This doesn't sit well with me. It is unfair. Our opinions are NOT law -- and never will be.
And then I remember that I am not a victim.
I have never been a victim -- of much at all, other than the average petty crime -- and have always used the justice system to correct acts against me.
So then ... does that mean I'm not qualified to be here?
Does it mean my wish to adhere to and respect our justice system makes me as much a perpetrator as a criminal?
Does this mean that I'm not "victim-friendly?"
What does "victim-friendly" mean?
Does it mean that .... just because someone yells 'fire' ... there IS a fire? That if someone yells 'WOLF!" ... there IS a wolf?
I am reminded ... suddenly ... of "the boy who cried wolf."
Why hasn't the majority of society learned from that fable?
I am unwilling to hang anyone unless HARD evidence shows that charges are warranted.
(I'm 'silly' like that...heheh)
And, in this case, it may never happen!
We do not know.
There's no evidence of Kathleen's murder (so far.)
There's no evidence that Stacy is even deceased, let alone murdered (so far.)
If charges are never brought against him ... what then? Will you 'hate' our system? Will you accuse the investigative team (including the FBI, in this case) of being totally incompetent losers ... just because they couldn't find evidence to support your opinions?
If Stacy surfaces (fat chance, I agree) .. what then? Will you be satisfied to 'hate' DP as a guy who has a history of abuse towards women ... and go along your merry way?
Do I think Stacy will surface? Nah.
Do I feel, in my bones, that she was murdered? Yep.
Do I feel DP murdered her? Probably, but I need evidence.
How can any of you be 100% certain?
And if you ARE 100% certain, why?
Is it because he's so smug and obnoxious? (Yes, he IS!)
Is it because he's a cop and cops have a history of certain behavioral criteria (which is WHY they become cops in the first place?)
And last, but hardly least ... if you were DP -- and ASSuming you don't have a need to be obnoxious, how would you proceed (considering the circumstances) if you knew FOR A FACT that you were innocent?
I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT I FEEL HE IS INNOCENT!!!!
I'm hoping to gleen some insight into the minds of those who feel he is absolutely guilty ......... right NOW ......... based on media coverage and willy-nilly thoughts written on a website by Stacy's family members ..................... without being privy to HARD evidence collected to date.
I feel the need to stress this: I hope (dream, hope) this thread to be dialogue discussed geared by logic and NOT emotion. If you can't contain your emotion (based on your own experience/s) please don't berate me for wishing to have a calm discussion, okay?
Thanks for the mutual respect.