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    CO - Murder conviction tossed; Tim Masters freed after 9 years in jail

    More and more innocent men and woman are being released from prison after spending years behind bars for crimes they did not commit..

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    Wow!

    That is an eye opening story.

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    For this reason i am against the death penalty. However i do think rapists and repeat sex offenders child predators should get it, as we can't cure them.

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    I agree, It is a shame that this happens alot. But on the other hand something has to be done to make them affraid to comit the crime because they sure are not affraid now!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAWG View Post
    I agree, It is a shame that this happens alot. But on the other hand something has to be done to make them affraid to comit the crime because they sure are not affraid now!!!
    But and innocent person should not be afraid to go to prison for a crime they did not commit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amraann View Post
    But and innocent person should not be afraid to go to prison for a crime they did not commit.
    The more research I do into our system, the more I worry for myself and my daughter about going to prison for something we didn't do. Before I looked into it, I assumed if I were wrongfully arrested, it would all work out in the wash - but I'm firmly convinced now that it's just as likely it wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindChime View Post
    More and more innocent men and woman are being released from prison after spending years behind bars for crimes they did not commit..

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/22/...es#cnnSTCVideo
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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/22/...es#cnnSTCVideo
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    I'm pleased that you posted this case Windchime.

    Here's a well-worn template for a wrongful conviction. No physical evidence links the defendant to the crime. LE sees but a single suspect. Prosecutors withhold exculpatory evidence. The jury fallaciously concludes proof beyond a reasonable doubt exists.

    Result, a wrongful conviction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitchWizard View Post
    The more research I do into our system, the more I worry for myself and my daughter about going to prison for something we didn't do. Before I looked into it, I assumed if I were wrongfully arrested, it would all work out in the wash - but I'm firmly convinced now that it's just as likely it wouldn't.
    When LE focuses on a person, that person has one foot on the devil's threshold. The best thing to do is to say absolutely nothing and lawyer up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wudge View Post
    When LE focuses on a person, that person has one foot on the devil's threshold. The best thing to do is to say absolutely nothing and lawyer up.
    ...and pray. Not that it does many alot of good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlitchWizard View Post
    ...and pray. Not that it does many alot of good.

    There's was a lot more behind this case than the originating article brought out.

    Detective Broderick is to the Masters case as Detective Furhman was to OJ's case, as Detective Brocchini was to Scott Peterson's case and as Detective DiSimone was to Rubin "Hurricane Carter's case. LE has more than its share of Nifongs.

    Moreover, like verdicts in other cases that have been reversed or should be reversed, there was not a shred of hard evidence against Masters. It was a case built on smoke and mirrors pitched to weak-minded jurors by unscrupulous prosecutors.

    No reasonable minded person could have formed the necessary inferences from the alleged evidence to convict Masters. More of the disgusting details behind this wrongful conviction are available in the following link.


    http://www.denverpost.com/evidence/ci_6373222

    Quotes from the article

    "The story behind Hettrick's murder and Tim Masters' conviction is one of inferences blurring with facts, character issues blurring with guilt and theater blurring with truth."
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    "The killing of Ms. Hettrick translated Tim Masters' grandiose fantasy into reality," wrote Meloy, who drew this conclusion without even interviewing Masters."
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    "Most of these writings and drawings have nothing to do with this grisly murder," wrote Justice Michael Bender in the dissent. "The sheer volume of the inadmissible evidence so overwhelmed the admissible evidence that the defendant could not have a fair trial. ... There exists a substantial risk that the defendant was convicted not for what he did, but for who he is."
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    "Today, Broderick says he's 100 percent certain Masters is guilty. He calls it a high point in his career.
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    Who destroyed Hammond's evidence? And why? "I had a lot to do with that," Broderick says. "It was an ethical decision. Should we re-victimize all these women by telling them they are victims? So it really was an effort to protect them, to preserve these victims' rights."


    NOTE: At the end of the article there a good number of particularly lucid posts by readers.


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    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...s-case-uninte/
    Prosecutors: Materials withheld in Masters case unintentionally

    Special prosecutors previously said some information was not turned over to Masters' defense team during his 1999 trial. Their report said Fort Collins Police Lt. Jim Broderick, who was the lead investigator on the case when it went to trial, did not intentionally hide evidence.
    "Openly referring to these items in police reports made available to the defense is not consistent with any intent or attempt to hide them," the report said.
    The law requires prosecutors to turn over evidence even if they are not aware of it, but from a practical standpoint, that can't be done, said Tom Quammen, an Adams County prosecutor assigned to the case. (more at link)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAWG View Post
    I agree, It is a shame that this happens alot. But on the other hand something has to be done to make them affraid to comit the crime because they sure are not affraid now!!!
    Imho, the idea that the threat of capital punishment will deter horrendous criminal acts is a myth. Esp in instances of serial murder. While I was all for capital punishment (for the longest time in fact), it was due to the basic premise of comparing a serial killer to a 'farm dog gone bad' (the old saying, once they've tasted blood, they're no good anymore). Hence, my opinion was, put them out of society's misery as opposed to, let's show other would be's what could happen to them. My opinion regarding capital punishment is quite different today. Esp in light of the issue of false convictions. After all, it's not like we (the universal we) can say, "oops, sorry, we made a mistake" after we put the wrong person to death. Furthermore, the argument (which I used to naively believe) that it costs more to house these people than it does to just fry them is completely bogus. It cost 60mil to fry Bundy—an order of magnitude more than it would have cost to keep him incarcerated for the rest of his adult life. That is, unless he lived to the ripe old age of 600 years old. And finally, imho, capital punishment is not only erratically meted out but it is about revenge. Pure and simple. Imho, when we, as a society, ever get around to acknowledging that bit, we might actually start getting somewhere. Then again, this is nothing more than my opinion...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wudge View Post
    When LE focuses on a person, that person has one foot on the devil's threshold. The best thing to do is to say absolutely nothing and lawyer up.
    At which point LE makes sure the media gets wind of it, so talk show pundits and arm chair sleuths can proclaim that said person "must be guilty!"

    In all seriousness, I absolutely agree. In fact, even LE isn't necessarily "focusing" imho, lawyering up is a wise decision. After all, people have a horrible habit of running off at the mouth and saying things that could be completely misconstrued. Whereas lawyers are trained in parsimony.



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    I'm still all for the death penalty in some cases...when there is no doubt that the person caught is the killer...Jesse Lunsford's killer, etc. When a person is caught red handed or DNA points to that person with out a doubt then I think they should get the death penalty. Otherwise, give them LWOP.

    It seems like the people who have been freed have been people the were arrested when there was no way to test DNA or the DNA wasn't tested at all like in this guy's case.

    We do have some creepy cops and Prosecutors who just want an arrest and arrest the first person that looks like they might be guilty. That isn't right and neither is not handing over all evidence to the defense. I want to see every guilty person spend years or their life in prison but their conviction has to be on the up and up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindChime View Post
    More and more innocent men and woman are being released from prison after spending years behind bars for crimes they did not commit..

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/22/...es#cnnSTCVideo
    The story

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/22/...es#cnnSTCVideo
    the Video


    Quick filed a motion this month citing four instances in which police and prosecutors should have handed over evidence to Masters' original defense team. See the key players in the case

    Among them was a police interview with a plastic surgeon who said it was improbable that a teen could have made the meticulous cuts necessary to remove Hettrick's body parts. Also, according to Quick's motion, police failed to divulge that a renowned FBI profiler warned police that Masters' penchant for doodling gruesome horror scenes did not tie him to the crime.

    Those sketches, along with a collection of narratives and knives, helped convince the jury of Masters' guilt. No physical evidence was found tying Masters to the crime.


    I remember seeing this case on one of those "crimetainment" shows......Cold Case Files, or something like that. The show definitely left the impression that no teenage boy would draw the pictures this kid drew unless he was a homicidal maniac....the strong, strong impression left with the viewer was that Tim Masters was guilty, and HOW.

    Cases like this are WHY I always try to give the perception of innocence. We, the public, were not made aware of any evidence that would support this 15 year old BOY's innocence, we were only told of the evidence (nothing but proximity and some comic-book like drawings) that would 'prove' his guilt.

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