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    Why they don't start with themselves.

    from findmadeleine website, FUND page.

    Fund Objectives
    1.1 The full objects of the Fund are:
    1.1.1 To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
    1.1.2 To procure that Madeleine’s abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
    1.1.3 To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.
    1.2 If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

    Well if we look at 1.1.2, Gary and Kate should be brought to justice, they played a big part in helping the abductors as they say. They left her alone for the abductor , duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedicla View Post
    from findmadeleine website, FUND page.

    Fund Objectives
    1.1 The full objects of the Fund are:
    1.1.1 To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
    1.1.2 To procure that Madeleine’s abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
    1.1.3 To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.
    1.2 If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

    Well if we look at 1.1.2, Gary and Kate should be brought to justice, they played a big part in helping the abductors as they say. They left her alone for the abductor , duh
    LOL...We talked about this on another thread a bit. If they actually ever get arrested, according to the objectives, the fund should technically be used to convict them...

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    If it carries on paying the mortgage there won't be much money left to pay to convict them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by notfred View Post
    If it carries on paying the mortgage there won't be much money left to pay to convict them!
    I believe it only made a couple of payments to the mortgage and in any case Gerry is back at work now.

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    I think it was more than a couple of payments, more like 4-6, but the Fund was not restricted to only paying for actual search efforts. It paid as well for travel expenses, I'm sure that travel to Portugal by McCann family members was also reimbursed by the Fund, along with other expenses related to staying in Portugal. Gerry probably had unpaid leave as well as Kate (who as part-time physician probably did not have any sick leave or leave benefits anyway) so it was to the administrators perfectly reasonable.

    To be honest, I think that having family members taking care of the twins during the early days was probably a better use of the money than giving it to Metado, which seems to excel at dramatic publicity statements about sightings that always seem to end up being perfectly normal native children in perfectly normal situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sedicla View Post
    from findmadeleine website, FUND page.

    Fund Objectives
    1.1 The full objects of the Fund are:
    1.1.1 To secure the safe return to her family of Madeleine McCann who was abducted in Praia da Luz, Portugal on Thursday 3rd May 2007;
    1.1.2 To procure that Madeleine’s abduction is thoroughly investigated and that her abductors, as well as those who played or play any part in assisting them, are identified and brought to justice; and
    1.1.3 To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.
    1.2 If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

    Well if we look at 1.1.2, Gary and Kate should be brought to justice, they played a big part in helping the abductors as they say. They left her alone for the abductor , duh
    Excellent point.

    How does the McCann justify their refusal to answer questions or participate in a reconstruction?

    Surely these can be viewed as obstructionist acts - at the very least, they are not assisting the investigation one iota by this disturbing lack of cooperation.

    It must be remembered that "questioning" is just that. Only the courts can find someone guilty...so why did Kate refuse to answer? Surely honest and open answers would clear her if she is as innocent as she claims?

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    The mccanns never once refused to take part in a reconstruction.

    No full reconstruction was ever proposed by the PJ anyway, they admitted they would not use all witnesses in the reconstruction only jeremy wilkins, the mccanns and their holidya companions.

    If one looks at the wuestions kate was asked one can see that they are mostly "can you explain X anymore than you already have done" so she had already answered these questions. And quite frankly if the questions were not designed to find madeleine, then kate was not hindering the search for madeleine by not answering them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    If one looks at the wuestions kate was asked one can see that they are mostly "can you explain X anymore than you already have done" so she had already answered these questions. .
    There were 49 questions, out of which only 4 contained those words, not most of them as you say.

    Those 4 questions related to one thing, the dog alerts. These are the only questions which she said she couldnt explain anymore than she had already.

    This suggests to me that this is possibly when she offered an explanation for the dog alerts that she had been in touch with dead bodies prior to the holiday via her job.

    http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KA...N_07-09-07.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchbag View Post
    There were 49 questions, out of which only 4 contained those words, not most of them as you say.

    Those 4 questions related to one thing, the dog alerts. These are the only questions which she said she couldnt explain anymore than she had already.

    This suggests to me that this is possibly when she offered an explanation for the dog alerts that she had been in touch with dead bodies prior to the holiday via her job.

    http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KA...N_07-09-07.htm
    Actually there are 48 questions. 48 questions the McCanns didn't answer on the advice of their lawyer.

    They did not offer an explanation of having been in contact with dead bodies. There is no primary source for this.
    This claim came from an unnamed source in the press and of course spread like wildfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gem2626 View Post
    Actually there are 48 questions. 48 questions the McCanns didn't answer on the advice of their lawyer.

    They did not offer an explanation of having been in contact with dead bodies. There is no primary source for this.
    This claim came from an unnamed source in the press and of course spread like wildfire.
    There were 49 questions, 48 unanswered and the final one answered.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...swer--did.html

    It wasnt the Mccanns being asked the questions, it was only Kate Mccann. Gerry Mccann answered all questions put to him. Whether the lawyer advised both of them to decline to answer or just KM I dont know at all.

    The point of my post was to dispell the idea that somehow KM had already answered all the questions previously and couldnt explain any more, as was suggested by the previous poster.

    There are plenty of references to the dead bodies, I will see what I can find for you from the press when I have some time, but here is one that comes from a book written by an ex PJ officer called the Star of Madeleine where he quotes what KM is supposed to have said during police interview.

    Read chapter eight

    http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic11923.html


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    There is absolutely no way a part time GP will come into contact with 6 dead bodies, all while wearing the same outfit and/or clutching cuddle cat, then go away on holidays without laundering her clothes.

    In fact, I would guess that Kate had NEW clothes, especially for the holiday.

    Holiday clothes, not clothes that double up as workwear for a wealthy GP.

    McCann supporters - go to your own GP, and ask them how many dead bodies they have seen in the last month.

    I can guarantee the answer will be zero, one at the most, on a busy week. A part timer would see even less.

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    The point about the separate questioning -

    Kate was instructed not to say a word...by lawyers, by Gerry, whoever. This was designed to thwart the investigation.

    If she was innocent, why not answer?

    The answers will be consistent, and consistent with Gerry's and the rest of the Tapas crew.

    What is the problem here?

    One "abducted" child, one police force to look for her. Kate needed the PJ to find her daughter. Kate needed to answer their questions.

    The inescapable conclusion is - she was not cooperating, because she had something to hide.



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    Quote Originally Posted by brit1981 View Post
    The mccanns never once refused to take part in a reconstruction.

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    They were not in a position as arguidos to refuse. And they were not exactly keen on the idea were they?

    McCLIP: Prospect of a RECONSTRUCTION does not APPEAL to Kate and Gerry. - YouTube

    And NONE of their friends were either except for J Wilkins who said he wasnt keen but would do it

    Again from 4.20 here talk about a reconstruction, and kate saying people need to remember what they have been through, doesnt seem to wqnt one

    McCanns interviewed in Brussels - YouTube

    Its a fact that police have done reconstructions years later and they have proved fruitful, hardly leaving no stone unturned IMO
    Last edited by KateB; 04-08-2015 at 01:02 PM. Reason: repair url tags.

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    Ironic they called their fund "No Stone Unturned".

    It should be renamed "No questions answered".

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    Actually according to the PJ files, jeremy wilkins refused to do it too.

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