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  1. #31
    This confuses me:

    Reno Police Detective Commander Leigha Struffert said laboratory analysis has confirmed the pink women's underwear contain the DNA of the murder suspect, Brianna Denison and the owner of the underwear who was a resident of the Mackay Court residence from which Denison was abducted on January 20.
    So the pink undies had Brianna's DNA, and the suspect's DNA, plus the DNA of the owner who was someone who lived at the house Brianna was taken from?? I'm confused about this - would Brianna borrow undies (that seems unlikely) or did the perp take some dirty ones from the house?? The logistics of that seem unlikely in the sense that I've always thought it was a quick abduction. This case keeps getting more and more bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newshound81 View Post
    But how in the heck did the killer and Brianna's DNA wind up on underwear belonging to a MacKay court resident? Did K.T. lend her underwear????? I am so confused. Somebody propose what happened for me. If he took the time to take underwear from that house, than he was in there for a longer time than we think.
    I am thinking about that also. Initially, I think she must have borrowed the underwear.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by 10EC_Dad View Post
    I am thinking about that also. Initially, I think she must have borrowed the underwear.
    This is possible, don't get me wrong, but as a general rule, girls don't borrow underwear. It's icky. I wouldn't even loan my sister underwear even if they were clean and had only been worn once.

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    Struffert says the evidence found in the field where Denison's body was discovered last month is critical to the investigation. Police believe both pairs may have been taken from the home where Denison last was seen when she was abducted Jan. 20 on the edge of the campus of the University of Nevada, Reno.

    http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/16341236.html

    This is very curious to me. If the women were locked into the bedroom asleep...obviously, that leaves the other female and two male roomates' rooms empty...but I rather thought they were locked, too. I don't see the girls leaving their worn underwear laying around in the common area, but I guess they could have a laundry room or similar near the kitchen where a laundry basket could have been.

    They must have already inquired with the roomates as to the origin of the PP thong? If someone in that home owned the PP thong, they would know. If one of the males' had a possible lover that owned/left them, they would know.

    Also, incorrectly...They stated that:
    RENO, Nev. (AP) - Reno police say a second pair of women's panties found with Brianna Denison's body had DNA belonging to her, a woman who lived with her and the serial rapist they believe strangled the 19-year-old college student.

    It is common knowledge that Brianna did not live there. This indicates the new pair they are talking about has their DNA on it...but not the PP thong.

    Being intertwined, it does sound more like he used them to strangle her.
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    Well this guy tried to break in near Brianna's house, so it wouldn't be a reach to think he had stolen the pink underwear at some point earlier because there were alot of people coming and going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Struffert says the evidence found in the field where Denison's body was discovered last month is critical to the investigation. Police believe both pairs may have been taken from the home where Denison last was seen when she was abducted Jan. 20 on the edge of the campus of the University of Nevada, Reno.

    http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/16341236.html

    This is very curious to me. If the women were locked into the bedroom asleep...obviously, that leaves the other female and two male roomates' rooms empty...but I rather thought they were locked, too. I don't see the girls leaving their worn underwear laying around in the common area, but I guess they could have a laundry room or similar near the kitchen where a laundry basket could have been.
    I didn't see that before. If the PP thong came from that apartment, whose DNA is on there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    Struffert says the evidence found in the field where Denison's body was discovered last month is critical to the investigation. Police believe both pairs may have been taken from the home where Denison last was seen when she was abducted Jan. 20 on the edge of the campus of the University of Nevada, Reno.

    http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/16341236.html

    This is very curious to me. If the women were locked into the bedroom asleep...obviously, that leaves the other female and two male roomates' rooms empty...but I rather thought they were locked, too. I don't see the girls leaving their worn underwear laying around in the common area, but I guess they could have a laundry room or similar near the kitchen where a laundry basket could have been.
    I'm with you - this sounds too complicated/time consuming to me. But maybe the perp has an underwear fetish. I would think they would have had to come from a laundry room or some dirty clothes area rather than from KT's room and I doubt they were just hanging out on the living room floor. I thought there were 2 girls and 2 guys living on in the house and the other girl was also out of town that weekend (I could be dreaming, it's been a while ago I read that) - maybe they came from the other girls bedroom??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick777 View Post
    Well this guy tried to break in near Brianna's house, so it wouldn't be a reach to think he had stolen the pink underwear at some point earlier because there were alot of people coming and going.
    I would think that KT or whoever owned the underwear would have known how recently she had them. If she'd been missing them only since the night of Jan 20th, then he probably took them at the same time he took Brianna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj1020 View Post
    I'm with you - this sounds too complicated/time consuming to me. But maybe the perp has an underwear fetish. I would think they would have had to come from a laundry room or some dirty clothes area rather than from KT's room and I doubt they were just hanging out on the living room floor. I thought there were 2 girls and 2 guys living on in the house and the other girl was also out of town that weekend (I could be dreaming, it's been a while ago I read that) - maybe they came from the other girls bedroom??
    Remember that the DNA on the thong were from an unknown male and unknown female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10EC_Dad View Post
    I am thinking about that also. Initially, I think she must have borrowed the underwear.
    She could have. It's not out of the question. Maybe her time of the month came early or something and she needed a new pair. But it seems strange. And it also seems strange that any of the roommates would have underwear lying around in the "common area." I don't know if there is a laundry room where he could have grabbed them from. Or, more frighteningly, maybe this perp knows KT or one of her other roommates....maybe he was intimate with that person, and that's he has the underwear.

    But why? Why did he take a pair of underwear obviously from that house and use the black thong? This is sounding more and more planned/taunting, whatever you want to call it. And it's also sounding more unbelievable that no one else in that house heard anything strange going on that early morning....


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    Quote Originally Posted by aj1020 View Post
    I would think that KT or whoever owned the underwear would have known how recently she had them. If she'd been missing them only since the night of Jan 20th, then he probably took them at the same time he took Brianna.
    If they were KT's, why would she not claim them?

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    Weve got:

    #1 Pink Panther underwear with the DNA of an unknown man and unknown woman.

    #2 Pink underwear with the DNA of Brianna, the suspect, and one of the firls living at the MacKay Court home.

    Speculation...........the suspect took a pair of underwear from a dirty clothes hamper at the MacKay home and knotted it together with the pink panther underwear and used that to strangle Brianna. DNA from both Brianna and the suspect was transferred to the underwear during the course of strangling her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10EC_Dad View Post
    If they were KT's, why would she not claim them?
    I didn't say anything about KT not claiming them, I'm not sure what you mean??

    Rick said the perp could have taken them on an occasion prior to the night Brianna was taken. I was just pointing out that KT or whoever owned them would have known when they went missing. If they went missing that night, then he probably took them when he took Brianna. If she'd been missing them since December let's say, then it's probably a good clue that he'd been in their house before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newshound81 View Post
    She could have. It's not out of the question. Maybe her time of the month came early or something and she needed a new pair. But it seems strange. And it also seems strange that any of the roommates would have underwear lying around in the "common area." I don't know if there is a laundry room where he could have grabbed them from. Or, more frighteningly, maybe this perp knows KT or one of her other roommates....maybe he was intimate with that person, and that's he has the underwear.

    But why? Why did he take a pair of underwear obviously from that house and use the black thong? This is sounding more and more planned/taunting, whatever you want to call it. And it's also sounding more unbelievable that no one else in that house heard anything strange going on that early morning....
    When you consider it, the PP thong is still the odd piece of the puzzle.

    If it came from that apartment, why did no one claim them? Why is the DNA from unknowns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj1020 View Post
    I didn't say anything about KT not claiming them, I'm not sure what you mean??

    Rick said the perp could have taken them on an occasion prior to the night Brianna was taken. I was just pointing out that KT or whoever owned them would have known when they went missing. If they went missing that night, then he probably took them when he took Brianna. If she'd been missing them since December let's say, then it's probably a good clue that he'd been in their house before.
    LE has been asking the owner of the PP thong to come forward. KT did not come forward. Noone that lives in that apartment came forward.

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