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    Let's pick back up peeps! Come on! Everyone.

    Sharon, we know you are in contact with the family (we do a lot of checking, I needed to verify) and and as you all know the family also contacted me.

    We DO care. Very, very, much.

    Everyone needs to work together and listen to each other, agree to disagree, share what info CAN be shared (we all understand there are things that just shouldn't be said out in the public) and simmer down a bit. We all want one thing, to find Joe.

    We will be helping w/talking w/mom and getting some answers to our questions and helping her as we can w/support and pointing her to the right people who can help. Mom is OK w/that. Mom expressed that she would like Sharon999 and I to get together so that we can work on who/what/how we can get Joe's story out there....she just doesn't want to deal with this on a daily basis as we are, and we have to except and respect that.

    This is very hard for mom, she really is not in tune with dealing with this case 'in person'....so hard to explain...so hard for those of us who have never experienced such to understand...but, I don't have to....point is...Mom is and will be available if things need done that have to be done (that is what Believe09, I am sure meant, the family MUST be available)...they do not however need to be in the middle of these discussions if they are not comfy with it...but are ENCOURAGING US TO PUSH ON.

    Mom is an AMAZING woman! She is focusing her energy working with other cases! Much like our Jinxiejada....who concentrates on other's cases, that is their 'way'. Mom recently trained with Hope and I am trying to get her hooked up with Kelly and Project Jason..Kelly is the perfect person for her to 'talk' with.


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    Sounds like a great plan to me!


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    http://w2.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-defamation.php

    This was a good article on online defamation guidelines, I didn't know most of this. Just looking for stuff we can use.


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    Interesting reading sherry


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    http://www.texasequusearch.org/

    This is the link for info about Texas Equusearch. Joe's picture is on the front page!

    I think they have the date wrong, anyone?
    Last edited by sherryggg; 03-06-2008 at 10:24 PM. Reason: added info


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    Please let me know the names of the independent labs. I couldn't find the link any where. I am sure that would be a great way to go.


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    we all understand there are things that just shouldn't be said out in the public
    We can't be of much use if relevant facts are being kept from us. Let me ask again--does anybody know if Joe had contact with any of his Hollywood employers in the six months prior?

    And I am still confused on the status of Joe's four 'friends.' Has the family attempted to ask them by themselves what happened? If they refuse contact, well that would be suspicious. But if are still open to being contacted than that would be evidence that they were not involved.


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    Yeah! Maybe TES will search... Wouldn't that be great?
    Last edited by Sharon999; 03-07-2008 at 08:54 PM.


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    Hi Sharon,

    This is an interesting lab located in Tacoma. I don't really understand everything they do, but it seems like they would be qualified to process the car. I guess Joe's apartment has been cleaned out and re-rented by now, you think? They seem pretty pricey, but again, I am unsure of time involved and the average costs of testing.

    http://www.finalanalysisforensics.com/


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    I sent the information on the labs to the family. This is excellent information and exactly the type of service they need. I have been hoping they would reconsider accepting donations for things like this. Really important to finding Joe.
    Please for those reading this case, Joe's case was alledgedly the victim of fraud, so do not donate $ to Joe's case on a 4yourangel.com website. Right now, the family is not asking $ for anything. The family website is www.joepichlermissing.com.
    What they really need is expert advice on what to do that could help find Joe.
    It was wonderful to see Joe on the TES website!


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    Quote Originally Posted by starviego View Post
    We can't be of much use if relevant facts are being kept from us. Let me ask again--does anybody know if Joe had contact with any of his Hollywood employers in the six months prior?

    And I am still confused on the status of Joe's four 'friends.' Has the family attempted to ask them by themselves what happened? If they refuse contact, well that would be suspicious. But if are still open to being contacted than that would be evidence that they were not involved.
    Good question regarding Joe contacting any of the Hollywood folks.


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    Joe did not have contact with any Hollywood actors in the 6 months prior to his disappearance that we know of. We know he had friends in California that he talked to. No one is holding back... That is all we know.

    6 months prior to his disappearance Joe fulfilled a dream and went to California for a week to feed the homeless there. He and several of his friends including Cammie went on this trip. Apparently, they didn't have the same dream or it wasn't what they expected and something happened. Thats when the friends broke up. No one will talk about what happened but it was really bad and broke the friend up.

    Joe had been working in homeless shelters with his family since he was little, so he knew what it was like. The conditions can be a lot of hard work. The family had befriended one very special man they loved very much, especially Joe. When he died, Joe tried to dedicate as much of his free time as he could to volunteering to feed the homeless. His dream was a foundation to help the homeless and the family is hoping to some day fulfill it.

    The family have all asked the friends what happened their response was 'shut up' 'leave me alone' 'dont ever talk to me again'. Kathy tried to keep an open communication with them as best she could, but that hasn't been successful. They won't talk about what happened.


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    Good morning guys,
    I don't really have anything to add, just sayin' Hi!


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    Red face

    There are a lot of questions on this forum and sometimes I miss yours. I am sorry. Please just ask it again and I will try to get back with you as soon as possible. Also, I don't always know the answer and it may take me several days to get the answer. Please be patient.
    I work so I can't stay on the forum as much as I would like. I will try to answer your questions as quickly and as efficiently as possible. Thanks for being so understanding.


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    HI Sharon - I have kept up with Joe's disappearance over the last few weeks. I totally understand why you have gotten demoralized a few times over the last few months. I am not going to pretend I know what it is like to know someone who is gone and being rejected by the authorities at every turn.
    I admire your dedication, passion and enthusiasm regarding finding out what happened to Joe. I could only hope if I ever got into a situation like Joe's family I would have friends as strong as you to help back me up.
    You are doing a great job and if it were not for you most of us wouldn't know about Joe which means thousands of others wouldn't know about Joe.
    Keep up the good work - you are making a difference.


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