03-07-2008, 10:45 PM #1Researcher
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CA - KIBBE, Roger Reece: I-5 Strangler, 1970's
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STOCKTON, Calif. -- A convicted murderer known as the I-5 Strangler has been accused of six more killings and may now face the death penalty, officials said.
Roger Reece Kibbe, 68, has been indicted by a grand jury in San Joaquin County on suspicion of homicides that took place from 1977 to 1986.
- Lou Ellen Burleigh, Sept. 11, 1977
- Lora Heedick of Modesto, April 21, 1986
- Barbara Ann Scott, July 3, 1986
- Stephanie Brown of Sacramento, July 15, 1986
- Charmaine Sabrah of Sacramento, Aug. 17, 1986
- Katherine Kelly Quinones, Nov. 5, 1986
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03-07-2008, 11:04 PM #2Former Member
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I remember when these murders happened.
Thankfully these victims will receive justice.
03-08-2008, 12:14 PM #3Im just living among all the madness
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Are there more that we may not know about??
03-08-2008, 12:18 PM #4
There certainly could be. Sad to say."WE SEEK FOR THE TRUTH. WE SEEK JUSTICE.
THE COURTS REQUIRE IT. THE VICTIMS CRY FOR IT
AND GOD DEMANDS IT!"
A quote spray painted on the wall by search
and rescue workers, Team 5, at the OKC Bombing site 4-19-1995.
What I post are my opinions only.
03-08-2008, 01:10 PM #5
09-29-2009, 04:01 PM #6
He plead guilty. I work with a woman who was good friends with Stephanie. The things that guy did to such a beautiful young woman should have put him squarely in the gas chamber. Here's the link: http://www.sacbee.com/latest/story/2218002.htmlJohn 3:16
Everyday it is my fervent prayer that these cases are solved
08-06-2013, 05:59 AM #7
1970s serial killers sowed fear in Contra Costa
By Matthias Gafni
Contra Costa Times
© Copyright 2011, Bay Area News Group
Posted: 07/16/2011 10:12:11 PM PDT
Roger Kibbe found himself in Contra Costa after being paroled to the Oakley area in 1972.
He started stealing women's underwear off laundry lines and cutting them up. When he began killing, he unnecessarily cut victims' clothing, Holes said.
Kibbe's first and only Contra Costa victim was Walnut Creek resident Lou Ellen Burleigh, 21, who disappeared Sept. 11, 1977, after agreeing to meet a man advertising a job at a cosmetics studio.
Kibbe, who confessed to the crime, got her into his van. Last month, DNA testing confirmed that it was Burleigh's remains found near Lake Berryessa in March.__________________________________
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11-16-2014, 06:45 AM #8Registered User
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Karen Higgins Finch, who went missing on June 15, 1986 and was found a week later, has been connected with him well enough that she was included as a known victim in "Trace Evidence" and the "Forensic Files" episode about Kibbe. She was stabbed instead of strangled - police believe she fought back and he became enraged and stabbed her with the scissors he used to cut clothing. Everything else about her case was similar, though. She was found on the side of the road, she had been tied like the other victims, her clothing was cut the same way. When he pled guilty, the deal was LE wouldn't bring anymore charges against him. I think, though I cannot recall, he may have admitted to killing Karen Finch under the deal. http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.d...NEWS/909299991
There's another case, Robbin Simpson, that was followed here. If I'm understanding his plea deal correctly, they may be able to charge him with her death if they get enough evidence, because he did not confess to it. Personally, given that her clothes were cut up in a manner similar to what he did to confirmed victims, I think she was probably a victim of Kibbe's. That's a really, really weird signature, and is how they connected the murders in the first place (though they couldn't gather enough evidence for the others to convince a prosecutor to charge him until DNA testing). Unfortunately, because the remains were skeletonized, there may not ever be enough evidence to charge him, and since he will never get out of jail, they may not feel it is worth the expense of another trial: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ighlight=kibbe
Personally, I think he was behind a lot more murders. He killed Lou Ellen Burleigh in 1977. That's a wide gap, both from when he first started stealing and cutting up clothing in his teens to when he killed her in his mid-30s, and from her murder to his next known victim in 1986. I think he only confessed to her murder because, according to Bruce Henderson's book, he had been a suspect when she disappeared, so he knew that LE would be looking at her case again once DNA tied him to the five 1986 cases. He wasn't convicted of most of his crimes until 2009. I'm thinking there are probably a bunch of murders across Central California in the 1970s and 1980s he is responsible for, if departments go back and check their cold cases for strangled or stabbed women found with cut up clothing, especially in areas where his known victims were found. They are all very remote areas where it would be easy to hide a body and it not be found for months or years.
12-07-2014, 12:49 AM #9Registered User
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Okay, after searching through news archives, I found a few strong possibilities. Figured I'd list them here.
∑ Nancy Feusi: Found by a fisherman in Sutter County in a remote area after disappearing late at night from Sacramento three days earlier. Was partially clothed with clothing strewn around. However, she was stabbed, not strangled, and there is no mention of nonfunctional cutting of her clothing.
∑ Deena Shariese Scott, 26: Stabbed and her throat was slashed on Dec. 1, 1985, similarly to Karen Finch. Lived in Manteca, but spent time in Ceres, where Roger Kibbe was living at the time, the day she disappeared. Went to a bar off of Highway 99 in Stockton, and had a solo-vehicle crash just south of the bar - Kibbe targeted stranded motorists on highways in the area. Her body was found in Manteca, so not across county lines, and no mention of scissor cuts to her clothing, but the locations and similarity of her abduction and murder to those of Stephanie Brown, Charmaine Sabrah and Karen Finch is worth looking into.
∑ Cora Carillo, 24: Found in Douglas County, where Kibbe often visited his brother, who worked as a homicide detective, in 1981. Strangled with a ligature made from her own clothing, which Kibbe did with his confirmed victim Lora Heedick. Disappeared from Carson City, which is independent, so crossed county lines/jurisdictions. I think this is a really strong possibility, and since Kibbe asked his brother about how people can remove evidence and was the brother of a detective, he likely would not have been considered as a suspect in this case.
In Trace Evidence, two possible Jane Doe cases were mentioned, one in El Dorado County that ended up being Robbin Simpson, and one in Nevada that I can't find anything about.
For what it's worth, police only went back a few years from 1986, mainly checked in Sac, San Joaquin and Ellen Dorado counties, and may have only reviewed strangulation cases (Karen Finch wasn't stabbed until 1987.)
I've found others with similarities to Kibbe's known victims (almost all strangulation victims), but either no body was ever found (Kimberly Stewart), or they didn't fit for other reasons. For example, two women, Penny Coyle and Nina Wilkerson, disappeared from Lodi a few months apart in 1981 and were found in the same place in the Delta just 12 miles from where Kibbe dumped Stephanie Brown's body, clothed like some of Kibbe's victims. However, no cause of death was determined, there was no mention of non-functional cutting to their clothes, and given how close they were to where Stephanie Brown was found, I can't imagine the SJ County detectives did not review their cases at the time.
Some of the Santa Rosa hitchhiker murders seem similar to Kibbe's known victims, but they were linked to other murders that sound nothing like him and don't fit his victim profile, and most did not cross county or jurisdictional lines.
Charlotte Cook was strangled and dumped behind a Ranger Station in Daly City, San Mateo County, the day after testifying in a robbery in Alameda County in 1974. Sounds like a possibility, except Kibbe's victims were mostly dumped in remote areas, and if she testified the day before, it's more likely to be connected to that.
I really feel like he has a lot more victims, though, and with him behind bars for the rest of his life and more pressing homicide cases, I worry that his other victims' families will never have closure.
12-08-2014, 09:51 PM #10Registered User
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On a side note, I've been reading about Joseph Naso and I'd really like to map out where he and Kibbe were and when, where they dumped bodies, and so on. I feel like between the two of them, many of the strangling deaths of women in Northern California and the Reno area in the 1970s and '80s could be accounted for. Their hunting and dumping grounds overlapped, both liked to bind and strangle their victims, and both targeted prostitutes as well as luring in other women, Kibbe targeting stranded drivers and Naso seeking out photography subjects. And both went undetected for long periods of time, though Naso made it a lot longer.
12-28-2014, 09:15 PM #11
That is a great idea! I think it would also be helpful to take a look at where close family members lived.
12-29-2014, 02:34 AM #12
It looks as though Kibbe kidnapped his victims on certain days of the week.
Lou Ellen Burleigh, Sept. 11, 1977 (Sunday)
Lora Heedick of Modesto, April 21, 1986 (Monday)
Barbara Ann Scott, July 3, 1986 (Wednesday)
Stephanie Brown of Sacramento, July 15, 1986 (Tuesday - was this the day she disappeared or was found?)
Charmaine Sabrah of Sacramento, Aug. 17, 1986 (Sunday)
Katherine Kelly Quinones, Nov. 5, 1986 (Wednesday)
Does anyone know the date of Darcie Frackenpohl's disappearance?
Karen Finch, disappeared June 15, 1986 (Sunday)
Deena Shariese Scott, disappeared December 1, 1985 (Sunday)
Is this just a coincidence or does it show a pattern?
01-01-2015, 09:57 PM #13
Southwest - 3530 Camino Del Rio North, San Diego, CA
Greater Los Angeles - 3600 Wilshire Blvd., Los Angeles, CA
Bay Area - 672 Thirteenth St., Oakland, CA
Northern California and Northern Nevada - 3434 Marconi Ave., Sacramento, CA
Northern Nevada - 335 Record St., Reno, NV
Oregon - 3910 SE Stark St., Portland, OR
Western Washington - 2802 Broadway Ave., Everett, WA
01-07-2015, 08:51 PM #14
I am adding the link to the Websleuths closed thread for Lynn Ruth Connes.
Circumstances surrounding her disappearance could place her on the list of possible victims of Kibbe.
1. Blonde hair, long
2. She advertised for employment as a photographer's model (1977, Kibbe used ad ruse to lure victim Lou Ellen Burleigh; 1986, Kibbe offered potential victim Debra Guffie $1500 to pose for photographs)
3. Disappeared from Berkeley, Alameda County (Kibbe lived in Pittsburg, Contra Costa County, in 1978; it is about 30 miles, a 35 minute drive, from Pittsburg to Berkeley)
I think Connes could also be considered a suspect for Joseph Naso.
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Connes seems like a really strong possibility for Joseph Naso, but I don't think Kibbe can be ruled out without her being found, especially given how much more bold he was in snatching victims at the time. He took a lot more risks with Lou Ellen Burleigh than he did with any of his other, later victims. Since he was questioned when Burleigh vanished, that may have scared him into changing how he picked up victims.
I found a really, really strong possibility on the Sacramento County Sheriff's cold case page: Daphne Elizabeth Collier, who Steph54 created a thread for. Here's what the sheriff has:
On September 1, 1977, Daphne Collier, a 16 year old female, was discovered on the side of Grantline Road. She had been strangled to death and sexually assaulted. It was learned that Daphne had hitchhiked from Seaside, California the previous day. She was last seen being dropped off on the I-5 on-ramp at 15th Street and W Streets in the evening hours of September 31, 1977.
I'll try and track down the timeline I made a couple of years ago; I lost my password for this site for a while. I think Kibbe had a lot more victims and I don't think it's right that those families never get closure. I do suspect he was probably much more active during certain time periods than others due to stress in his life, though.
EDIT: Actually, him being more active in times of stress (something mentioned in Trace Evidence) would make the case for him murdering Collier even stronger: He was being questioned in the Burleigh case, which would have been extremely stressful, and that could explain why he went clear to Sacramento instead of finding another victim close to home.
EDIT 2: Okay, I just mapped from the Volunteers of America office in Sacramento to Pittsburg, where Kibbe lived, and guess which intersection right next to Interstate 5 the driver would pass, whether he was taking 80 to 680 and around to Pittsburg, or I-5 to Highway 12/4 and over to Pittsburg? 15th and W, where Collier was last seen.
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