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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaded View Post
    Nothing more than making sure no spammers get through and maybe taking responsibility for a state or two to make sure that missing/UID are on the forum.

    LR, I'll post the pics of the pens.
    Thanks Jaded. I would love to see pics of the pens, too!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LionRun View Post
    Hi Salem. About a year ago or so we were able to obtain a copy of a pic of the actual ring from the side view. It clearly says "Robert E. Lee High School" and "Houston" on the ring. There are many REL high schools throughout the nation, including one also in San Antonio. But, there was only one REL high school in Houston. So we are sure it is the correct high school. REL changed its name to Lee High School since 1975.

    Please PM RKnowley about how to get a hold of the google docs of the 1975 grads. I don't know how to do that. I have the tech ability of a three year old at best--lol. Much work has been done, but we need help. Thank you so much for offering to take a look.
    There is a link in the Princess Blue forum for the docs, I am almost certain -- I will take a look and link it. I do believe we also attached it on the forum in .pdf form so it would be easily printable for those who wanted to send off letters, and the database would require a gmail account (free) and an admin from skm giving permission to alter. We were taking blocks at a time and noting when we sent letters.


  3. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    Is there more than one Robert E. Lee high school? I'm sure there is, I'll go google.

    Salem
    ~Snip

    My Son went to Robert E. Lee High School all 4 years in Baytown, TX which is about 30 miles south of Houston.

    Sly


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    The ring, dated 1975, couldn't have been hers if she was between the ages of 17-21 and her skeleton was discovered in 1990.

    Could she have been dating someone older, someone married or could it have belonged to one of her parents?

    Usually those rings are sentimental.

    Sly


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    Actually, there is a chance that the ring was Princess Blue's. It is unlikely, but it is possible. This is because according to the new autopsy report whereby a panel of forensics specialists did not offer a date of death. So, it is possible that Princess's remains had been out there anywhere from 1975 to about late 1989 or early 1990.

    I have worked and researched for a long time to find good scientific info concerning the topic of remains conditions in a humid, warm temperate climate such as in the Houston area. Unfortunately, there are no, "body farms" or good scientific data to show how long there would be DNA in bone marrow that is still viable for DNA and drug testing--for the conditions that Princess was found in (warm temperate, humid climate, out in the open, etc...). It is true that scientists have extracted DNA from remains that are thousands of years old, in these cases the conditions were either cold (in snow that fell hundreds/thousands of years ago where remains were preserved) or in hot, dry conditions of a desert/desert tomb. We just don't know if DNA stays viable for testing (drugs and DNA) under the conditions in which Princess's body was found. If we did her date of death could better be pinpointed.

    Just to be sure that the school ring issue is cleared up, we know that the ring was from Robert E. Lee HS (now Lee HS) because, "Houston" is clearly on the ring.


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    Does anyone know if there was a Leona who graduated that year?


  7. #22
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    Let me check..it doesn't sound familiar but I will check now and get back here with the information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claycat View Post
    Does anyone know if there was a Leona who graduated that year?
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    Princess Blue
    Located September 10, 1990 in Manvel, Texas

    Could Princess Blue be identified soon Princess Blue? Follow us at the link below
    Princess Blue Forum to find out.

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    Kimberly Shawn Cheatham
    Missing from Dallas, Texas since April 8, 1989

    Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    There is no Leona listed in the 1975 REL- Houston yearbook or in the 1974 REL jrs.
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    Princess Blue
    Located September 10, 1990 in Manvel, Texas

    Could Princess Blue be identified soon Princess Blue? Follow us at the link below
    Princess Blue Forum to find out.

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    Kimberly Shawn Cheatham
    Missing from Dallas, Texas since April 8, 1989

    Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

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    Thank you, RKnowley!


  10. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by LionRun View Post
    Actually, there is a chance that the ring was Princess Blue's. It is unlikely, but it is possible. This is because according to the new autopsy report whereby a panel of forensics specialists did not offer a date of death. So, it is possible that Princess's remains had been out there anywhere from 1975 to about late 1989 or early 1990.

    I have worked and researched for a long time to find good scientific info concerning the topic of remains conditions in a humid, warm temperate climate such as in the Houston area. Unfortunately, there are no, "body farms" or good scientific data to show how long there would be DNA in bone marrow that is still viable for DNA and drug testing--for the conditions that Princess was found in (warm temperate, humid climate, out in the open, etc...). It is true that scientists have extracted DNA from remains that are thousands of years old, in these cases the conditions were either cold (in snow that fell hundreds/thousands of years ago where remains were preserved) or in hot, dry conditions of a desert/desert tomb. We just don't know if DNA stays viable for testing (drugs and DNA) under the conditions in which Princess's body was found. If we did her date of death could better be pinpointed.

    Just to be sure that the school ring issue is cleared up, we know that the ring was from Robert E. Lee HS (now Lee HS) because, "Houston" is clearly on the ring.
    My own experience living a decade 30 miles from Houston in both Liberty & Baytown is that it is HOT & HUMID!!! And seems to rain everyday.

    I would rather be here in Death Valley's dry 128 degrees then there at 90 degrees with 90% humidity. Tho I do truly LOVE Texas that humidity is something else down there.

    Which brings me thinking/remembering something else... dead body smell real bad fast down there. When we first moved to Baytown I got some groceries a store that was filthy inside. I never did go back. When I was leaving and getting into my truck I smelled a horrible smell. The breeze wasn't coming my way when I parked there. A week later a body was found maybe 100 feet from where I had parked. That corner about 2 miles from home always gave me the creeps.

    It was a female who had been dead 2 weeks. So when I was smelling her she had only been there a week. It freaked me she was my height & weight even with auburn hair. I was seriously rethinking living there but did love our home.

    This was the end of November. And we always hung up our xmass lights on Dec. 6th, most the time sweating in out shorts. And the bugs there, I never seen so many different kinds of bugs. My Son had over 300 vials of different specimens.

    Princess Blue was found right off a HWY so people had to be smelling her decompose. But it also smells real bad down there with all the refineries and such. Pasadena is right next to Houston and is referred to as Stinkadena.

    Sly


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    yw, Clay

    Quote Originally Posted by Claycat View Post
    Thank you, RKnowley!
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    Princess Blue
    Located September 10, 1990 in Manvel, Texas

    Could Princess Blue be identified soon Princess Blue? Follow us at the link below
    Princess Blue Forum to find out.

    ***************************************
    Kimberly Shawn Cheatham
    Missing from Dallas, Texas since April 8, 1989

    Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

    ******************************************


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    New Stats For Princess Blue??

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 137UFTX


    Reconstructions of Victim
    Unidentified White/Hispanic Female


    • The victim was discovered on September 10, 1990 in Brazoria County, Texas.
    • Estimated Date of Death: 1-5 Years
    • Skeletal Remains
    Vital Statistics


    • Estimated age: 15 - 25 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 4'11" - 5'3"; with a slight to medium build.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Originally thought to be Hispanic, the new analysis indicates the young woman was White, with the probability of some Black traits. According to the forensic analysis, it is likely one parent or one grandparent was Black.
    • Skeletal Findings: Two fractured ribs; and a "defect" on a bone beneath her left knee. The victim possibly had a tumor on her knee.
    • Fingerprints: Not Available skeletal
    • Dentals: Available. There were several teeth with untreated carries, and two amalgam fillings. Noteworthy though, is that tooth #10, an upper left, lateral incisor, which is right next to her two front most teeth was surgically removed prior to death and the corresponding alveolar space was partially obliterated by mature bone.
    • DNA: Available IN CODIS
    • Nickname: "Princess Blue"
    • Jewelry: One pearl, beaded bracelet
      Six rings,
      One gold band ring with six clear stones
      One silver band with a scroll design,
      Two thin silver bands
      One silver-colored ring with a turquoise horse or unicorn,
      One 1975, size 9 1/2, Robert E. Lee, Houston, TX High School ring. This ring has a blue stone with a silver colored, inexpensive metal band. It is unknown whether or not there were ever engravings on the inner side of the ring's band. The ring was upsized twice, which would have removed evidence of previous engravings. However, it does have an inlaid, "L" which many students chose as an option that year that stands for the school mascot, Robert E. Lee himself.

    Victim's Rings
    Case History
    The victim was located on a pile of debris at the end of a Brazoria County road (101) just east of Highway 288 inside the Manvel city limits on September 10, 1990.
    The skeleton was found by a man who had pulled off the highway to relieve himself. He stepped behind a barricade and saw a skull in an old tire.
    No purse, wallet, clothing or hair were located around the skeleton, six rings were on the fingers, and a bracelet around her wrist.
    The company that made Robert E. Lee High School's (now Lee High School) rings doesn't have records from 1975. The Lee class of 1975 had about 300 girls. Authorities would like to hear from any of the girls who lost a ring or gave it to somebody else.
    Toxicology tests yielded no trace of opiates in her bone marrow. However, it is unknown whether or not other drugs were present, tested for or could have been tested for.

    Please see http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/137uftx.html for information on who to contact if you have any information regarding this case.
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    Princess Blue
    Located September 10, 1990 in Manvel, Texas

    Could Princess Blue be identified soon Princess Blue? Follow us at the link below
    Princess Blue Forum to find out.

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    Kimberly Shawn Cheatham
    Missing from Dallas, Texas since April 8, 1989

    Where is Kimberly Shawn Cheatham?

    ******************************************


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    R.E. Lee HS yearbooks

    I'm a 1975 graduate of Robert E. Lee (now just Lee) High School in Houston. I attended Lee from 1972 to 1975, for my sophomore, junior, and senior years. I also lived close to Lee; I walked to school every day. I just found my way to this site yesterday through a Facebook post on a board for Lee graduates. There are over a thousand posts here about Princess Blue and I've only browsed through them, so forgive me if I'm repeating or ignorant of things already discussed.

    I looked at the facial reconstruction drawings of Princess Blue and they don't resemble anyone I knew. Which doesn't mean much. It was a huge school, 650 in my graduating class alone, and I never had much of a social life at Lee. However, I have several suggestions and offers to make.

    First, I have my Lee yearbooks for 1973, 1974, and 1975. Another post here says that the '75 yearbook has been scanned and is available online. I'm willing to scan the '73 and '74 yearbooks as well and make those scans available.

    Second, several people have suggested contacting class members through Classmates.com. I'm a member of Classmates, and the last time I counted, about 250 of the 650 graduates of '75 were registered there. Another site, MyLife.com, has a similar registry. I'm a member there too, and I think they have 400 signed up from the class of '75. There's a lot of overlap between the 250 and the 400, but still, I think between the two sites anyone could quickly reach about two-thirds of the class of '75. I assume the numbers are similar for other graduating years.

    I'm willing to post a notice on the Classmates and MyLife boards for the Lee class of '75 and other graduating years, describing Princess Blue and asking for help. I'm also willing to help with an effort to directly email every registered graduate from 1975 and other years.

    I can also try to find yearbooks from other years and scan them too. I can look for them through Classmates and MyLife; I know who the class officers were for the classes of 1973-1975 and would contact them first; and I can visit Lee and the Houston Independent School District and see what I can find through them. I'm in Houston often; I have family and friends there and I live 4 hours away.

    These are obvious things and they may already have been covered by police or members of Websleuths. If not, and I can help, I will. Please email me through the Websleuths board.

    -- Chris Schulman, Class of 1975, Robert E. Lee (now Lee) High School, Houston, Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    I have not been to this site in awhile, but did we ever find any yearbooks for Robert E. Lee High School? Has there been any communication with any of the class presidents? Princess Blue was found in Sept. 1990 right? Class presidents generally round everyone up for class reunions. I wonder if there is any one female that consistently does not come to the reunion and for which the reunion committee can never find contact information?

    I believe this girl went to that high school at some point. She may be from a class as far back as 1985 and she may be from the 1993 class. All the known information about her is "best guess" except her DNA and her jewelry.

    Is there more than one Robert E. Lee high school? I'm sure there is, I'll go google.

    Salem


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