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    FL - Colleen Orsborn, 15, Daytona Beach, 19 March 1984

    Colleen Emily Orsborn
    Missing since March 19, 1984 from Daytona Beach, Volusia County, Florida.
    Classification: Non-Family Abduction

    Vital Statistics
    Date Of Birth: March 3, 1969
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 15 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2; 95 pounds
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; hazel eyes.
    Dentals: Not available

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Orsborn was last seen at her family's Daytona Beach, Florida home on March 19, 1984. Orsborn was initially thought to be a runaway who was headed towards Titusville, Florida. Police now suspect that she was abducted by serial-killer Christopher Wilder. He was seen in Daytona that day, propositioning "models." He is also a suspect in the abductions of Tammy Leppert and Mary Opitz. Wilder was killed in Colebrook on April 13, 1984, in a struggle with a New Hampshire state trooper.
    In February 2001, Orsborn's brother got an anonymous letter postmarked in Manchester, NH from someone who said he had killed the girl, giving some directions to where he supposedly left the body and begging forgiveness. The author said he is dying from cirrhosis of the liver. The author describes an area along the Tomaka River in Daytona Beach where he claims to have dumped the girlís body and clothes. Investigators say the author may not be Orsbornís killer, and instead could have learned of the disappearance by talking to Wilder when Wilder passed through New Hampshire. Still, they are investigating the possibility the letter is for real.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/171dffl.html

    The disappearance of Colleen fits the pattern of Wilder, who often attacked near his birthdate of March 13th. This was near the beginning of his cross-country rampage of kidnapping and murder, ending with his death in a confrontation with state police in New Hampshire. While researching Wilder in reference to the disappearance of Dorothy "DeeDee" Scofield, I found this case. After looking at various sites, I found the following UID....

    Discovered on April 6, 1984 in Orlando, Orange County, Florida.
    Cause of death was homicide
    She is estimated to have been dead for up to 10 days before she was located.

    Vital Statistics
    Estimated age: 14 - 18 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'3"; 100 - 115 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown eyes and light brown hair cut short around the face, 6"-9" long in back. She wore a size 7 -8 shoe. She had no scars or other abnormalities / identifying marks. She had on very faint pink nail polish on fingernails as well as two toenails. her ears were not pierced.
    Dentals: Available. She did have cavities, however; it appeared that she had never received dental care.
    DNA: Available.
    Clothing: No clothing was located.

    Case History
    The victim was located in a wooded area between SR 545 and SR 192 (Lake Buena Vista) near Bali Boulevard in southwest Orange County, Florida. She had been killed and buried naked in a shallow grave.
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/30uffl.html

    The resemblance between Colleen and the first set of reconstructions of the UID is unmistakable (the second set of reconstructions look nothing like the first, and do not match the written description. The written description of Colleen does not match her photo, either).
    The dates match---The UID was found 18 days after Colleen disappeared. Orlando and Daytona Beach are some 50 miles apart. I would certainly hope this match has already been looked at...
    (Anyone capable of posting a side-by-side comparison of the photos, please feel free).
    Last edited by Texas Mist; 02-02-2011 at 02:46 PM. Reason: updated status/prefix


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    I think these are a match. I will check Doenetwork for you to see if it has been submitted. Here are your pics.



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    I looked on Doenetwork and this case had been submitted back in 2003, but there was nothing saying what had become of it. I think three years is a long time for no response. I am thinking it's because there are no dentals on Colleen. I wonder what is going on. I say you should submit it., it looks really good to me. The heights, the weight, the coloring, no dentals on Colleen, and no dental care on Doe, the distance looks good. I say put a fire under LE and ask them to look again. It would be a shame if her family could have had closure long ago. Something isn't right with that. I will dig some more...


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    Bump for shadowangel. Have you submitted this, or do you want me to contact someone at Doe network to see why this hasn't been updated?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gardenmom
    Bump for shadowangel. Have you submitted this, or do you want me to contact someone at Doe network to see why this hasn't been updated?
    Please do. Thanks.


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    I made a post to see what was up. Hopefully we will hear soon. Otherwise, it wouldn't hurt to submit this to LE. Heck, you should do it anyway!


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    OK, there is a thread over there that was just started today! Seems like we are on the same wavelength as some others over at Doe. Anyway, they are contacting Rocky, who I know posts on here. I guess he does some sluething over there and may be in the "know" as to what is taking so long. I sincerely think it may be the lack of dentals on Colleen, and the cost of DNA. I could be wrong, but this seems like such an obvious match. I will keep checking over there and report back when I see something new.


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    I would be shocked if LE hadn't checked this out right away...I mean, 18 days and 50 miles apart? That's obvious to even me! And Wilder's rampage was front-page news all over the country.


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    This is under "Case Discussion" with the thread titled "Possible?" on Doe network if you are interested in looking over there. Rocky replied back that they never got back to the Doe Network, and he resubmitted it. Hopefully they will let someone know.


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    If I don't hear anything in a few days in regard to Doe Network, I'll start pestering LE down there.


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    I did ask and it was because I posted the names of possible matches that had been submitted. They do not want this information known to anyone outside of their members to have this information. They made it very clear. Now the thread that I posted the information on is gone. It was Lake Ponchatrain Doe. I was just trying to help us narrow down our search. There is no sense in spending hours searching for a match if it's already been submitted to LE. It doesn't make sense to me either, since we all have one objective in mind, and that is finding the missing. It's too bad they are acting this way.


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    I am sorry that you got banned. I know I would feel awful if I got banned from a site. However, please remember that you did nothing wrong and had all the best of intentions.
    I don't understand their reasoning but as I am not a member of their site I guess it is not necessary for me to understand. I just hope whatever guides them in making this decision it is based on helping the missing and not any other reason.

    mjak


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    Websleuths has strict copyright rules that all our members must obey. If you have a link to information from another forum, simply post a snippet of that information along with a link. There's absolutely no reason whatever that people reading here cannot read the information for themselves at the forum in which it appears.

    Moreover, what happens at other forums (i.e., banning, time outs, etc.) should be left at that forum and not brought here. We try to work with other forums, especially those who feature missing/endangered persons, and we're not about to start a forum war simply because someone copied information that they didn't get permission to copy.

    I have included a post which contains information regarding the "Fair Use Doctrine." If you have any other questions, please speak with one of the moderators:


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    bump...


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    If the case was submitted in 2003 then it was more then likely before the board switched over to it's current home. They used to be on Yahoo Groups and something happened that the board got erased and that's when they moved. I'm assuming that a lot of the PM's from 2003 and before are from memory or something someone had saved and no one ever followed up on it.


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